1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Black air cleaner for an FB?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-11-16, 10:15 AM
  #1  
Censored

Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
ray green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 11,368
Received 176 Likes on 137 Posts
Black air cleaner for an FB?

Here's a new one to me.

I just snagged this air cleaner on ebay, it looks just like the conventional stock blue air cleaner on the FB except it's black.

Can anyone tell me where this thing came from?

Thanks!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mazda-RX7-Air-Cleaner-Assembly-with-Filter-1983-1984-1985-12A-/291728540090?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=FpD0g8m%252BEzgdlbrGMH9ff1M36CA%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&rmvSB=true




Old 04-11-16, 10:30 AM
  #2  
HeyHeyHey..Its the Goose

iTrader: (3)
 
Qingdao's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Charleston
Posts: 2,801
Received 79 Likes on 58 Posts
Cool.

I'd guess just painted by somebody. Cool none the less.
Old 04-11-16, 11:13 AM
  #3  
carb whisperer

 
wankel=awesome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Greenfield, Ohio
Posts: 1,485
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
6 port 12a
Old 04-11-16, 11:18 AM
  #4  
Censored

Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
ray green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 11,368
Received 176 Likes on 137 Posts
Well that would be a very convincing paint job, with all the correct decals.

And the patina looks authentic as well, if it was painted it was many years ago.

Also there are some scrapes in the black paint and I don't see any blue paint peeking through.

I'll be able to tell better when it get here, but my guess is that its OEM.

Also, it seems to me I've seen one of these black units before.

Maybe some other Mazda that used the Nikki-carbed 12A?
Old 04-11-16, 11:19 AM
  #5  
Censored

Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
ray green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 11,368
Received 176 Likes on 137 Posts
Details on the 6 port 12A?
Old 04-11-16, 03:37 PM
  #6  
'85 12a
iTrader: (10)
 
Cookboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Richmond VA
Posts: 1,495
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
That is a prime piece!
Old 04-11-16, 04:40 PM
  #7  
carb whisperer

 
wankel=awesome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Greenfield, Ohio
Posts: 1,485
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
There was a 84-85 (S3) 6 port 12A in an old magazine I have somewhere, and it wasn't in an rx, but shared a lot of the GSLSE goodies, like the 6 ports, exhaust timing, and even a super strange exhaust mani that resembled a header.

It had a black 84-85 Nikki air cleaner on it, and was pretty cool. The article title was "The next big thing" printed around the time the engine was new. I believe it was a GLC
Old 04-11-16, 05:27 PM
  #8  
Have RX-7, will restore


iTrader: (91)
 
mazdaverx713b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 21,713
Received 1,053 Likes on 892 Posts
It could be from a 6 port 12A but all of the 6 port 12A air cleaner lids I've seen have said 6 port on them. I'll find the pictures and post them..
Old 04-11-16, 05:28 PM
  #9  
Censored

Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
ray green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 11,368
Received 176 Likes on 137 Posts
The GLC's all had boingers as far as I can tell.

Maybe this 6-port was an option in Japan?
Old 04-11-16, 05:30 PM
  #10  
Have RX-7, will restore


iTrader: (91)
 
mazdaverx713b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 21,713
Received 1,053 Likes on 892 Posts
The 6 port 12A was a J-spec only option.
Old 04-11-16, 07:10 PM
  #11  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (2)
 
j_tso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,757
Received 249 Likes on 167 Posts
Here's a 6P 12A scanned from a 1982 Japanese brochure:



GLCs also had a pancake air filter, but the snorkel end is not straight.

Last edited by j_tso; 04-11-16 at 07:14 PM.
Old 04-11-16, 11:45 PM
  #12  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
j9fd3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,841
Received 2,604 Likes on 1,847 Posts
Originally Posted by ray green
The GLC's all had boingers as far as I can tell.

Maybe this 6-port was an option in Japan?
the 6pi was optional in the Rx7 and Cosmo. not sure when they started, we only have parts catalogs starting 9/83.

they both have the same part number for the air cleaner lids (n225-23-673), so info there...

the 6pi engine was the first to have the 6 port induction system, its just like the GSL-SE system, except it was done first so it has a Nikki carb instead of the EFI, and its a 12A.

the JDM models are similar to ours, except they had a choice of either the 12A-6pi or the 12A Turbo. the 12A turbo used the GSL-SE suspension, although it had adjustable shocks. the 12A-6pi had the normal 12A running gear,
Old 04-12-16, 05:37 AM
  #13  
carb whisperer

 
wankel=awesome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Greenfield, Ohio
Posts: 1,485
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Weird. The one I saw didn't say 6 port induction on it...

Also, the car it was in is debatable. All I know is that it wasn't an rx7.

But, black air cleaners on 6 port 12a's was a thing, lol
Old 04-12-16, 10:43 AM
  #14  
Lapping = Fapping

iTrader: (13)
 
Jeff20B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Near Seattle
Posts: 15,725
Received 70 Likes on 64 Posts
The HB Cosmo had a 6 port 12A. Also side motor mounts on the int plate, like any GSL-SE and RE-SI int plate (look for the studs).
Old 04-12-16, 01:31 PM
  #15  
Censored

Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
ray green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 11,368
Received 176 Likes on 137 Posts
The Mystery just gets deeper, since this particular Mazda Rotary Engine air cleaner appears to be "none of the above".

I did a google search and came up with nothing that looked like it, although I did find a link to DD's (DivinDriver) photos of his engine bay after a bath and it appears that he has a black air cleaner on his Nikki.

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-gen-gene...86708/page114/

Name:  IMG_0800.jpg
Views: 1075
Size:  119.8 KB

I wonder if he painted it? Maybe James is right!
Old 04-12-16, 02:30 PM
  #16  
carb whisperer

 
wankel=awesome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Greenfield, Ohio
Posts: 1,485
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Jeff20B
The HB Cosmo had a 6 port 12A. Also side motor mounts on the int plate, like any GSL-SE and RE-SI int plate (look for the studs).
I found a few pictures of the oddball cast header it had on Google image search, turns out that it was you that posted some shots of it here on the forums years ago.

I still 100% believe that cleaner is from a 6 port 12a. Even if it doesn't say 6 port on it.
Old 04-12-16, 02:48 PM
  #17  
Waffles - hmmm good

iTrader: (1)
 
t_g_farrell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Lake Wylie, N.C.
Posts: 8,783
Received 282 Likes on 232 Posts
Originally Posted by ray green
The Mystery just gets deeper, since this particular Mazda Rotary Engine air cleaner appears to be "none of the above".

I did a google search and came up with nothing that looked like it, although I did find a link to DD's (DivinDriver) photos of his engine bay after a bath and it appears that he has a black air cleaner on his Nikki.

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-gen-gene...86708/page114/



I wonder if he painted it? Maybe James is right!
Thats a chromed air cleaner Ray, but very pretty anyway.
Old 04-12-16, 07:19 PM
  #18  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
j9fd3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,841
Received 2,604 Likes on 1,847 Posts
Originally Posted by ray green
The Mystery just gets deeper, since this particular Mazda Rotary Engine air cleaner appears to be "none of the above".
when it gets here, post the part number, its on the sticker
Old 04-12-16, 07:37 PM
  #19  
Censored

Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
ray green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 11,368
Received 176 Likes on 137 Posts
Figures DD would chrome it. Has he no respect for the rest of us?

J9 I will post the part number and lots of pics when it comes in, that should get us where we need to go. Thanks.

I'm kind of excited, it's like getting a RB exhaust system in the mail, only less expensive.
Old 04-12-16, 08:02 PM
  #20  
turbo or bust
iTrader: (8)
 
erick31876's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: bristol,pa
Posts: 870
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Very interesting, I can't wait to see the pic's. Great find ray
Old 04-12-16, 10:23 PM
  #21  
Moderator

iTrader: (3)
 
j9fd3s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,841
Received 2,604 Likes on 1,847 Posts
Originally Posted by ray green
Figures DD would chrome it. Has he no respect for the rest of us?

J9 I will post the part number and lots of pics when it comes in, that should get us where we need to go. Thanks.

I'm kind of excited, it's like getting a RB exhaust system in the mail, only less expensive.
from the parts catalog
Attached Thumbnails Black air cleaner for an FB?-ef00691.png   Black air cleaner for an FB?-ef00821.png   Black air cleaner for an FB?-ef01291.png  
Old 04-19-16, 08:27 PM
  #22  
Censored

Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
ray green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 11,368
Received 176 Likes on 137 Posts
OK, the Darth Vader Nikki Air Cleaner has arrived and it is in every respect identical to a conventional blue FB air cleaner, right down to the N249 on the label.

Name:  xx_zpsjihbls1l.jpg
Views: 787
Size:  705.0 KB

So why is it black?

Here's the pics, as it arrived and after some cleaning:

Name:  2_zpsgi1l82on.jpg
Views: 696
Size:  288.9 KB

Name:  3_zps5fdmtyq4.jpg
Views: 659
Size:  323.0 KB

After:

Name:  20160419_174144_zpsdvtztpe9.jpg
Views: 678
Size:  388.1 KB

Name:  20160419_174231_zpsvrleyk5x.jpg
Views: 693
Size:  992.4 KB

Name:  20160419_174203_zps71cxvrhl.jpg
Views: 687
Size:  317.3 KB

So why is this here air cleaner black? I sure would like to know!

Last edited by ray green; 04-19-16 at 08:34 PM.
Old 04-19-16, 08:48 PM
  #23  
turbo or bust
iTrader: (8)
 
erick31876's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: bristol,pa
Posts: 870
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I like it a lot,nice find ray
Old 04-19-16, 09:05 PM
  #24  
HeyHeyHey..Its the Goose

iTrader: (3)
 
Qingdao's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Charleston
Posts: 2,801
Received 79 Likes on 58 Posts
Originally Posted by ray green
So why is this here air cleaner black? I sure would like to know!

Because all the other colors in the visible light spectrum are absorbed by the paint.


Looks dynamite all cleaned up Ray.
Old 04-19-16, 09:34 PM
  #25  
Hello World

iTrader: (1)
 
jbherri2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 327
Received 11 Likes on 5 Posts
Man, that is sweet. Imagine in a black or red RX-7 12a.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:04 PM.