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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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Back Seat in an FB

Alright, i just looked at an FB with a back seat in it. From the research i have found the back seat was not offered in an FB in america due to safety regulations. I was wondering if anyone knows if this is true or not. If its not, does anyone have production numbers on what vehicles have the back seat or anything like that. I want to know how rare the backseat is, because i am intereted in getting this car, it is a GSL-SE but it is in pretty bad condition. Im wondering what i should use as a price to offer for the car. I figured i would look to the wisdom of other forum members first. Does anyone else on the forum have an FB with a backseat. I have really never seen one with a backseat, so that is why i am kinda confused about it. Please leave posts and let me know what you guys think, thanks a bunch.

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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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some had a 'backseat', more like a bucket you can fit half a kid in. Or a nice place for your helmet.

If you are asking does it increase value, no. Are they rare. yes-ish

do a quick search there was a recentish thread by somone on their backseat
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by djessence
some had a 'backseat', more like a bucket you can fit half a kid in. Or a nice place for your helmet.

If you are asking does it increase value, no. Are they rare. yes-ish

do a quick search there was a recentish thread by somone on their backseat
I did a quick search, i must have missed it. If you could link it let me know. Thanks!
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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k lemme do a quick search for ya


k so i cant find the one im thinking of but alot of ppl put 2gen seats into the 1st. they had the back seats in japan and UK, but not very many in america but they did have them (mightve been a dealer option)
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Someone told me back seats lower insurance coast? dont know how
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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I doubt that's true there is no 2+2 U.S. option in the FB. Those are all from overseas vehicles. The underwriter won't see that in the selction option for quoting a price. Cars are rated by a number of factors not just top speed etc.

It's just for looks. It would be worse than waterboarding to force someone to sit back there.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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I had one. These were not offered in north america, however, you could order the seat from the dealer and have it installed.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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That's a pretty cool option. Love seeing different factory/dealer options on 7's.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Those back seats are perfectly safe as long as the occupants are missing their legs. If you can talk the guy down and if the car is in bad shape salvage what you can. Some people just might pay a good price if the seats are in good shape.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Vashner
I doubt that's true there is no 2+2 U.S. option in the FB. Those are all from overseas vehicles. The underwriter won't see that in the selction option for quoting a price. Cars are rated by a number of factors not just top speed etc.

It's just for looks. It would be worse than waterboarding to force someone to sit back there.
Yes that is true. We had to dispute it with the insurance company, since they did not believe it was true. All I had to do was send them this:
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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i have one i purchased for $200... they comalong every once in a blue moon...

i don't pay alot of money for my policy in the first place so i never told my insurance company i had a back seat... it will still be classified as a sports car, so i can't see where it will do much good....

just my 2cents...
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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I kinda want to buy the car and swap out the mechanics into my car. its a GSL-SE so its got the FI engine and the LSD and 4 wheel disks, but when i saw the back seat i was like "WHAT??" If i can get a good price i'll pick it up and swap stuff out. Maybe i'll be stepping up to the 13 from my 12. :-), that would make my cold morning starts a little nicer!!!
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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Ohh and another point. Since there is some popularity on this thread, if you have a stateside rex with the back seat, let me know. Post pics if you can. It seems like people are interested. Also if you have a custom rear seat, show us some pics, who knows you might impress someone and they might want to know how you did it. Just a thought! Thanks for all the replies.

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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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it does make a difference. Maybe not for a 1985 1.3L car.

But why do you think companies like aston martin put a seat in the back that is unable to hole a baby seat?

It CAN lowe insurance by up to 30% depending on other factors as well

(my brother is in automotice insurance and risk assessment so im not just pulling this out of my ***)
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dayton
i have one i purchased for $200... they comalong every once in a blue moon...

i don't pay alot of money for my policy in the first place so i never told my insurance company i had a back seat... it will still be classified as a sports car, so i can't see where it will do much good....

just my 2cents...
My insurance went down $3 because of it, iirc. It isn't much I know. Speaking of Insurance, anyone here have Nationwide Insurance? I just found out that for only $1 more every term, if you get in an accident they use only OEM equipment. The bodyshops usually just find the cheapest parts and pocket the rest from what I hear. Surprised me that Nationwide doesn't promote this. Just giving a heads up to you guys

So that $3 went somewhere.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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I would really, REALLY LOVE one of these things. But I can never find one.

(PM me if ya got one!)
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sterling
I would really, REALLY LOVE one of these things. But I can never find one.

(PM me if ya got one!)
Do you want the back seat or the whole car? If i get the car i plan on keeping the seat, but just want to clear that up for anyone else.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Ohh djessence, did you say your car had the back seat? I can understand the canadian ones having it, but i thought they weren't allowed because of the safety standards put up in the gold old US, just like our super high emissions stuff. The reason we never got the 12AT. although now that i think about it i don't think canada got the 12AT either. Just a thought...

Ohh i love how this is an insurance thread now! lol... just playin, thread whatever you guys want. very interesting to me!
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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We got pretty much the same cars as the US. AFAIK the only difference was we got the headlight washers, and from what I've read most, including mine, no longer work. You can kind of make them out on the bumper as black dots in my sig picture. We did not get the 12AT, otherwise we would all be scrambling to find one.
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by orion84gsl
We got pretty much the same cars as the US. AFAIK the only difference was we got the headlight washers, and from what I've read most, including mine, no longer work. You can kind of make them out on the bumper as black dots in my sig picture. We did not get the 12AT, otherwise we would all be scrambling to find one.
Yeah you and me both. I would go up to the wonderful land of canada and buy one from you guys and find a way to drive it down here!!! i would love to find a stock 12AT here in the states. But who knows how much that would sell for. My research puts a bunch is aussie land, and of course alot in japan. but none on this continent. You guys got headlight washers, what all does that include. Just a little jet on the bumper?? what would it take to put that on my car?? what all would i need?
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 01:08 AM
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There was no way the back seats were unsafe or illegal to have. That's where my parents stuck me and my brother for several years until we couldn't fit... I really doubt my parents would have stuck us there if they had any doubt in their mind. And yeah, the seat was something that they had to order separately from the dealer and have installed.

However, interestingly enough, when I slammed my 7 back in october, the back seat folded down... but that may have just been my fault for not locking it the last time i put it up or something...
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 01:26 AM
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I'd love to know if anyone else has a rear seat in their SA like mine. I've searched everywhere but can't find another like it which makes me think it was a custom job for my car. Anyone have any input, aside from it needing to be cleaned.

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here in australia, we only have 1st gens with back seats! most people are naive to the fact that these cars even came with storage buckets!
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There was no way the back seats were unsafe...
...when I slammed my 7 back in october, the back seat folded down...

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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by .::evil inside::.
here in australia, we only have 1st gens with back seats! most people are naive to the fact that these cars even came with storage buckets!
some here in the UK all with rear seats i even have factory leather in mine
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