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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Thought that might get your attention. Toying with the idea of doing the research to develop a 1st gen All Wheel Drive rx7. And yes i would use a rotary engine.
What is your thoughts on this subject? rx7doctor
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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what would you use for a drive train?
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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i think a AWD FB would slay all the competition.... i've wished they had AWD rotaries since i first got into them when i got my 87 TII
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7doctor
Thought that might get your attention. Toying with the idea of doing the research to develop a 1st gen All Wheel Drive rx7. And yes i would use a rotary engine.
What is your thoughts on this subject? rx7doctor

so crazy i would like to see it done
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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what tranny and transfer case are you planning on? you know the mazda mpv's with the 3.0l engines tranny will bolt right up to a rotary. mounting it will be a different thing though. actually the tranny's ( at least the automatics) are the same as the 3rd gens.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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on f'd up Double Post lol

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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what tranny and transfer case are you planning on? you know the mazda mpv's with the 3.0l engines tranny will bolt right up to a rotary. mounting it will be a different thing though. actually the tranny's ( at least the automatics) are the same as the 3rd gens.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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I remember a friend telling me about seeing this done once ill ask him about it
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 11:17 PM
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I would mount the engine transversley. there are a number of Transaxles i could use. I am going to start my research. Any input is encouraged. Will take alot of
planning and research to make it work. Sinse i have spare parts cars i can experiment alot with this. rx7doctor
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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i know someones done an awd setup on an fc........ it was a pikes peak car in the early 90's... have pics somewhere, just have to find them
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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I would suggest a subaru awd system and mod it to work with the rotory because its one of the only full time awd with 50/50 to 35/65 were the majority goes to the rear wheels. gen 1 DSM's ( talon, eclipse, lazar 90 -94) might work they are fairly strong good for up and over 400HP. Many of the awd are the oposite like the EVO. Your also look for somthing thast made to run full time 4 wheel not like many 4wds used different gear ratios from frount to back so your only supposed to use them an loose surfaces.

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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What about the tranny and transfer case from a 4WD mazda truck? I hear the trannies in the mid 80's trucks are basically the same as an RX-7 tranny.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7doctor
Thought that might get your attention. Toying with the idea of doing the research to develop a 1st gen All Wheel Drive rx7. And yes i would use a rotary engine.
What is your thoughts on this subject? rx7doctor

THIS THREAD IS USELESS WITHOUT PICTURES!!
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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Rod Millen used 626 components on his 1985 rally FB that beat up the Audi Quattro's. He also built a FC 20b AWD for Pikes Peak. Pics are included.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 01:14 AM
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The Mazda RE4R01A / R4A-EL Transaxle found in 1993 and up 3.0L Mazda 323, 1989 to 1993 3.0L Mazda MPVs, 1990 to 1993 Mazda B2200, & B2600i 2.6L trucks, and 1993 RX7. It is also found in the Nissan Pathfinders, 300ZX, 240SX vehicles. It is also found in the Infinity J30, M30 and Subaru Legacy Vehicles.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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THIS THREAD IS USELESS WITHOUT PICTURES!!
I got your pictures. Does the word MOON mean anything to you? LOL
Thanks guys will start researching. rx7doctor
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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Don't know that it would be possible but the drivetrain from a Subaru RX coupe would be interesting. A) it would let you mount longitudinally B) it has a high and low range C) the car is of similar dimensions reducing fab work and D) it has locking differentials.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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my buddy was just telling me yesterday, how he wanted to get a BMW E30 body, and swap over a skyline GTR engine and drivetrain. he made great points, can easily get a front clip from JARCO for $5500, and get the rest for prolly a total of $8000. then with custom fabrication, he could have that thing running for less than a new SRT-4. but yeah, an AWD first gen.....unstoppable.


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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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It would be tight to see but the main reason I love the FB is low weight. AWD is usually heavier and will most likely add weight, but it probably wouldn't be enough to stop it from being a bad *** light car. Good luck.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FBrotor7
It would be tight to see but the main reason I love the FB is low weight. AWD is usually heavier and will most likely add weight, but it probably wouldn't be enough to stop it from being a bad *** light car. Good luck.
solution....upgrade engine, brakes and tires. i wouldn't think that adding awd to an fb would totally destroy the handling enough that some upgrades wouldn't fix. i would try to get an older scoobaroo transmission for the swap. and if this swap is accomplished i MUST have a vid of an fb 4 wheel burn out !!!!!
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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In holland an AWD 626 & 323 were available throughout the 80's & early 90's... That also could be a good option.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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we had the 323 GTX here... not sure if the 323 GT was also available AWD... i'd think the rear axle wouldn't need to be messed with in an AWD FB, its got a good rear diff if u have the limited slip model... the biggest concern wouldbe the front axle, and i'd imagine with this upgrade you would also basically need an all new front suspension.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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323 GTX was AWD the GT's were front. Someone mentioned using a Subaru tranny because htey have a rwd bias, thats only true on the STi's. otherwise they are 50/50. Subaru tranny would move the engine forward of the axle tho. I think there's already an adapter for Audi Quattro trannies for the rotary.

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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Hey I found one that might work its the awd for the Ford areostar it uses a turque clutch system so when the rear wheels spin the clutch grabs and locks the frounts in it farly tough and can be found in the junk yark for a few hundred complete.
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