1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

auto versus stick

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-26-02, 07:01 PM
  #1  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
85rx7blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northern, NJ
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
auto versus stick

Should I switch my automatic trans to a 5 speed or leave as is. Pickup is slow but car is fast.
Old 03-26-02, 07:04 PM
  #2  
I can has a Hemi? Yes...

iTrader: (2)
 
Directfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 3OH5
Posts: 9,371
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Re: auto versus stick

Originally posted by 85rx7blue
Should I switch my automatic trans to a 5 speed or leave as is. Pickup is slow but car is fast.
yes.
Old 03-26-02, 07:08 PM
  #3  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
85rx7blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northern, NJ
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why, tell me more. What will I really get from it?
Old 03-26-02, 07:09 PM
  #4  
smog nazi destroyer

 
riffraff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: california
Posts: 1,681
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
a hell of a lot of more fun is what you will get..
nothing beats a good manual tranny.
Old 03-26-02, 07:13 PM
  #5  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
85rx7blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northern, NJ
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Has anyone ever switched over before?
Old 03-26-02, 07:13 PM
  #6  
I can has a Hemi? Yes...

iTrader: (2)
 
Directfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 3OH5
Posts: 9,371
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally posted by 85rx7blue
Why, tell me more. What will I really get from it?
You will get better acceleration, better gas milage, and better top end.

You will also get to change clutches regularly, have a biggger/stronger left leg in traffic, and no more opportunities to keep you hand on your GF's lap all the time.

Seriously, drive a stick Rex first, and make up your mind.
Old 03-26-02, 07:24 PM
  #7  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
85rx7blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northern, NJ
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I already have the automatic in perfect condition. I will never find a 5 speed in this good of shape.
Old 03-26-02, 07:35 PM
  #8  
smog nazi destroyer

 
riffraff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: california
Posts: 1,681
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
i know that someone on this board has done the swap before. serzy maybe.
i would definatly try to find one that you can borrow , to try out, if you are not sure..
Old 03-26-02, 07:39 PM
  #9  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
85rx7blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northern, NJ
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks
Old 03-26-02, 07:40 PM
  #10  
Never Follow

iTrader: (18)
 
82transam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 8,306
Likes: 0
Received 67 Likes on 49 Posts
At first I would tell you to switch it cause stick is far superior not only for acceleration etc, but for the fun factror, I mean this is a sports car not a family sedan. But on second thought auto FB's are pretty damn rare so you might want to keep it auto and then buy another one that is stick. Your car, your call, but rareness is cool.
Old 03-26-02, 10:13 PM
  #11  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (3)
 
Northern 7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I switched from auto to 5 speed 2 yrs ago. The 3 speed auto's suck -

1 - they rev way to high on the highway without the overdrive
2- you can't red line them
3- brutal gas milage, especially on the highway
4- no guts off the line
5- Expensive to repair (and the torque converters are the first to go)
6- Not nearly as much fun to drive
7- Civics will beat you to death
8- Mod's are a waste of time / money (and good parts)
9- Defeats the purpose of the "Sports Car"
10- They stopped making them after '83 for good reason

That's a few reasons to switch - no offence to your auto but if you can get your hands on a used 5 speed, go for it - the switch is not that difficult - in the '83 it's the same drive shaft and you need to move the tranny support cross member back a little - other than that, tranny, clutch, flywheel, slave, blah, blah and you're set
Old 03-26-02, 10:19 PM
  #12  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (3)
 
Northern 7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I switched from auto to 5 speed 2 yrs ago. The 3 speed auto's suck -

1 - they rev way to high on the highway without the overdrive
2- you can't red line them
3- brutal gas milage, especially on the highway
4- no guts off the line
5- Expensive to repair (and the torque converters are the first to go)
6- Not nearly as much fun to drive
7- Civics will beat you to death
8- Mod's are a waste of time / money (and good parts)
9- Defeats the purpose of the "Sports Car"
10- They stopped making them after '83 for good reason

That's a few reasons to switch - no offence to your auto but if you can get your hands on a used 5 speed, go for it - the switch is not that difficult - in the '83 it's the same drive shaft and you need to move the tranny support cross member back a little - other than that, tranny, clutch, flywheel, slave, blah, blah and you're set
Old 03-26-02, 10:27 PM
  #13  
I can has a Hemi? Yes...

iTrader: (2)
 
Directfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 3OH5
Posts: 9,371
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally posted by Northern 7
1 - they rev way to high on the highway without the overdrive
10- They stopped making them after '83 for good reason
Not that I like the Automatics on 7's.. But I just want to get facts straight.

Automatics where offered in 84/85 models as well,
With an improved 4 Speed Automatic overdrive.



This is from the 85 Mazda Rx-7 Brochure..
Old 03-26-02, 10:48 PM
  #14  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (3)
 
Northern 7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Directfreak's right - I was thinking of the 84/85 GSL-SE which did not offer the auto (correct me if I'm wrong) - 9 of of 10 ain't bad
Old 03-27-02, 12:44 AM
  #16  
the torquinator

iTrader: (1)
 
theNeanderthol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Las Cruces, NM
Posts: 951
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
A friend of mine has a zx-2 with the automatic tranny and he said that after intake and exhaust he is running a 19 second quarter mile. The zx-2 with the manual tranny runs a 17 sec. quater mile completely stock. Stick shift is way faster, way better on gas, and way funner in my opinion. It seems like a tough job to swap trannies, but once you just suck it up and dig in, it isn't so bad. ( and pretty fun)
Old 03-27-02, 05:39 AM
  #17  
post whore queen

 
rx-7girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: LouEEsville
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
uuumm for the no auto after 83' that is a lie! my car is an 1985 gsl auto! i challenge you to a duel non mazda knower!
Old 03-27-02, 08:50 AM
  #18  
Full Member

 
jrios's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Tampa
Posts: 192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would say that 5 spd does have it's avantages over auto and i would personally go with the 5 spd, but then again you don't see too many autos around, they're hard to find. No matter what, it is still an RX7!
Old 03-27-02, 09:54 AM
  #19  
<l><l>

 
snake eyes<l><l>'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: houston (katy), tx
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Get a stick, there are a lot of other things that you cant do, push start, (easier) burnmouts, get a jump on the other guy, lot more things trick-wise (espacally in autocross) etc. plus, you look coorinated to chick when driving a stick. the only bad thing in the 84 gs i have there is nowhere to put your drink, oh, and in houston, getting stuck in I-10 traffic sux with stick even more

Snake Eyes<l><l>
Old 03-27-02, 10:32 AM
  #20  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (3)
 
Northern 7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
RX-7girl - Dual's on !! - check my second post, I errored... I was thinking of the 84/85 GSL-SE which did not come with the auto
Old 03-27-02, 08:50 PM
  #21  
EliteHardcoreCannuckSquad

 
smnc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Acton, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 4,126
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally posted by Northern 7
Directfreak's right - I was thinking of the 84/85 GSL-SE which did not offer the auto (correct me if I'm wrong) - 9 of of 10 ain't bad
Exactly... There was a 4 speed Auto option on all 84/85's 'cept the GSL-SE
Old 03-29-02, 05:40 PM
  #22  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
85rx7blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northern, NJ
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mine is a 1985 GS 4 speed auto with overdrive
Old 03-30-02, 12:13 AM
  #23  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
gonzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4,236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Do the swap, you will love it..
Old 03-30-02, 07:04 AM
  #24  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (1)
 
85RX7GS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,693
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Switch it! Switch it!
Old 03-30-02, 12:08 PM
  #25  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
85rx7blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Northern, NJ
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
85rx7gs your car looks like mine and im in Jersey too. check out my ride on---- my7.rx7.org/


Quick Reply: auto versus stick



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:16 AM.