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any 12a based 3 rotors?

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Old 01-19-07, 07:38 AM
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any 12a based 3 rotors?

From all i've read, the 12a seems to be the more reliable rotary, but are there any 3 rotors out there built on 12a parts? I think that would be awesome.
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there is a 4-rotor based on the 12a.
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the 12a is reliable because the vast majority of them arent boosted.

but what would you call it? 18a?
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yeah i would believe so, but i think there already is an engine called the 18a
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Originally Posted by ZeikHunter
the 12a is reliable because the vast majority of them arent boosted.

but what would you call it? 18a?

No, it would be the 18BA (badass)
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the Scoot 4 rotor is 12A based.
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So whats it take to build one? Obviously a custom eccentric shaft, and longer studs (or are they bolts, i'm kinda a newb) and probably 2 or 3 carbs?
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A 3 rotor 12a based motor would be a 17a and a 4 rotor would be a 23a. There is a company that makes custom eccentric shafts for them.
http://autotechmotorsports.com/r_and_d.htm


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the 12a is reliable because the vast majority of them arent boosted.
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I know with the stock 20b the two intermediate plates are not the same. What would you use as a second intermediate plate for a 12a-based 3-rotor? You need a gear to mesh with the middle rotor somehow...

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3-rotor 12A



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Old 01-19-07, 12:16 PM
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I can really tell by the pic, efi or carb? Looks awesome though.
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Originally Posted by vipernicus42
I know with the stock 20b the two intermediate plates are not the same. What would you use as a second intermediate plate for a 12a-based 3-rotor? You need a gear to mesh with the middle rotor somehow...

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Maybe you could use an intermediate housing or two from a 20B, it doesn't seem like they would care since it doesn't affect the rotor housings. Then again, looks like some one figured it out in 1988, way before the 20B.
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If I remember correctly you can't use the 20B front-center (fat) plate because all S5+ stuff has the coolant seals on the iron rather than the rotor housing.
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Originally Posted by XR4turbo
I can really tell by the pic, efi or carb? Looks awesome though.
You really can't tell? Those are SU carbs... 3 of 'em
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didn't Hitman build one ages ago as well?
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XR4Turbo, I live like not to far down the road from you in Streetman on Richland Chambers Lake. We should get together and hang out with our 7's! I havent seen another FB in awhile other than my two.
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hahah did anyone notice the fusible links...god i hate those things.
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could be just two 12a center irons one capped off lol
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1995 Three Rotor-Triple Turbo Bonneville Engine=880HP
2000 Three Rotor- Single Turbo Special Project Engine=900HP
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Originally Posted by diabolical1
didn't Hitman build one ages ago as well?
That was 13B based.
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Correct, Scoot's 4 rotor is 12a based. He also uses 2 Jspec Power FCs to control the engine. A friend of mine visited his shop in Japan and got a ride. He said it was incredible. Scoot drove it like he stole it and my friend said that the exhaust note coming off the buildings as they blew by was incredible!!
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Originally Posted by REVHED
That was 13B based.
yeah, the one in the yellow car. i don't k now why, but i thought he had built a 12A-based one as well. oh well, i guess the ol' brain is failing me. time for some ginko biloba.
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Originally Posted by chedda_j
hahah did anyone notice the fusible links...god i hate those things.
YMMV. In the past 25 years--and nearly as many RX-7s--they never gave me any problems.

Yes those are SU's (HIF6)
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XR4Turbo, I live like not to far down the road from you in Streetman on Richland Chambers Lake. We should get together and hang out with our 7's! I havent seen another FB in awhile other than my two.

Eh...well...i dont exactly have one, but by august, I should have one. I want the sound really badly.
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So what would an NA 12A 3 rotor produce....horsepower wise?



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