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Old 09-19-06, 10:05 AM
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alright ... I just got back form the place ... as you can tell that was pretty quick ... but thats because we didn't do anything .. the guy booked me for the following tuesday and not this one so I guess i'll have to suffer a week. And I was all prepared for it ... changed my engine oil, changed my fuel filter, ran a little seafoam to clean things up too.
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Originally Posted by dj55b
alright ... I just got back form the place ... as you can tell that was pretty quick ... but thats because we didn't do anything .. the guy booked me for the following tuesday and not this one so I guess i'll have to suffer a week. And I was all prepared for it ... changed my engine oil, changed my fuel filter, ran a little seafoam to clean things up too.
Ah man, thats a bummer
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I would give it about 120 at the wheels if the drivetrains in godd shape and its tuned properly. Well be looking tomarrow to see how you do.
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I should also say that my tranny and rear end are both semi freshly filled with red line fluids so that I won't loose too much power from there
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I'm gonna say 150ish horsepower... since we're in Canada, I'll say that it's worth about 127US

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lol at vipernicus. i really think yous guys arent giving him enough, i really think with a streetport, hell be up there around 180 at the flywheel. of course this depends on what size SP it is.
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Yeah but it's better to keep hopes low, then put it on the dyno and be pleasantly surprised... then tune it, end up with 30 more hp at the wheels and be extatic.

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lol. Now I'm gonna have to wait another whole week to find out if I won? DAMMIT!!! This suspense is gonna give me ulcers!

Your setup sounds pretty similar to what I've got, except I won't have the street port until spring and I have a Sterling carb (you have a holley, right?). So yeah, I'm kinda interested to see how you do.

BTW, I'd kill to see someone do a before/after Seafoam treatment dyno run for comparison. On like, a motor that was babied for years and never redlined. I bet that would be impressive.
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now where are you going to find someone who has a motor like that and is on the 7 club?
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Originally Posted by Kentetsu
lol. Now I'm gonna have to wait another whole week to find out if I won? DAMMIT!!! This suspense is gonna give me ulcers!

Your setup sounds pretty similar to what I've got, except I won't have the street port until spring and I have a Sterling carb (you have a holley, right?). So yeah, I'm kinda interested to see how you do.

BTW, I'd kill to see someone do a before/after Seafoam treatment dyno run for comparison. On like, a motor that was babied for years and never redlined. I bet that would be impressive.
Lol ... how do you think i felt when I walked into the place? I honestly could sleep yesterday because of how excited I was. I would litteraly wake up every hour and check on the clock. Anyhow **** happens

As far as your setup goes ... I believe that yours would score lower numbers from mine due to Header choice and mostly if you're using the stock intake or not (maybe sterling ported it for you?)
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Originally Posted by Kentetsu
lol. Now I'm gonna have to wait another whole week to find out if I won? DAMMIT!!! This suspense is gonna give me ulcers!

Your setup sounds pretty similar to what I've got, except I won't have the street port until spring and I have a Sterling carb (you have a holley, right?). So yeah, I'm kinda interested to see how you do.

BTW, I'd kill to see someone do a before/after Seafoam treatment dyno run for comparison. On like, a motor that was babied for years and never redlined. I bet that would be impressive.

hmmm at the end of this month hopefully ill have enough money to pick up my fb

from my uncle....the thing has 29k original miles and has already been throught

one cat so i think u can tell it has been babied,i would be willing to dyno my car

and then seafoam and dyno again if everyone chips in lol
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Seafoam is, like, $4.89 a can!

If you can afford a dyno session, you can afford some Seafoam.
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i'm pretty sure he meant the other way around about that one
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i think he wants people to chip in for the dyno....id be willing if others were...
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and the answer is ???
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if you read on ... you'd know that we now have to suffer till next tuesday to know the real answer.
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For all the anxious people ... Car should be up and on the dyno @ 12:00PM EST. I've got my camera batterie's all charged up too so pics and hopefully video (hopefully this new cam has video on there too haven't looked at the specs yet). Depending when we finish I can probably post the numbers up around 5:00PM EST or it will have to wait after my 8:00PM class and once I get hope then I'll upload everything at once.

Depending on how many runs he allows me (hopefully he'll be cool about things) I would like to try a few different thing with the air intake and stuff.

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Just thinking here .... I even think that I have the second gen igniter and board from GSL-SE addict with me so that we can see what happens with it connected. (I just have to remove the resistor out that restricts the max width) and finally see if there is actually any HP gains out of it

I'm pretty sure Kentetsu, GSL-SE addict, H4Inf, Dom and all them would be interested in hearing the result of all their hard work.

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Talking

hey mate, looking forward to hearing the results.

We have spent a lot of time on the TT hehe- I blew my 2nd gen coilpack and have been driving around on stock coils for the last few weeks. It's definitely not as responsive. I don't think the TT mod will make a large difference in HP (we tested 2 cars and noted maybe ~2-3 hp gain), but you will notice driving on the street that it just feels better RPM climbs a lot faster. When I get a new coilpack I will do some rev speed testing as well

Good luck with it, looking forward to seeing pics and vids!! and the numbers

Cheers,

Paul.
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HURRY UP!!!

You send me a PM, getting my hopes all up, and its more waiting WTF!

I got to run and get my wideband installed and other things today, so hopefully by the time I get back from work and running around town I can see some numbers.

I cant wait to really see how much the 2GCDFIS w/TT helps.
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Alright people just got back to school now from the dyno place. Highest we could get it was 147.3RWHP and 124.2lb-ft. We gained about 15RWHP just with playing with the dizzy. Kinda surprised about that one. We noticed that RWHP was dropping at about 7K so we swapped over to the transistor trick from there. Good news bad news here, it was pulling the graph all the way oup to 7k+rpm so it is stronger at the top, but we lost RWHP and TQ over all we think its because we couldn't advance it enough even though I had it all the way out. And as i mentioned before HP is really dependent of timing as we saw it. I will get my photo's and video uploaded later on today. we will also have to flatten out the fuel curve too. I have to buy these special plates for my secondaries to tune it out properly. Max A/F was about 14.3 to a min of 12.2 at the top end. So its not that bad but need work to squeeze more power out. We were both shocked though of how straigh and smooth the power curve is.

147.3RWHP@6995rpm
124.2lb-ft@~5150rpm

Over all I'm pretty pleased with the results, quite a bit higher than I expected but nothing to complain about, and getting the carb tuned out more and a better ignition system i can see it hitting almost 160hp out of an 12a N/A.

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Looks the winner is ... jaydun323 with 146ish.

Damn, I was close at 145.
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147 not bad at all. thats about 110kw

seems like the calc should have been :

100hp stock
30% for street port
15% for zorst
15% for carb
15% power loss thru drivetrain

100x1.3x1.15x1.15x.85 = 147
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Nice man.


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