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Air Pump Removed, But Now Theres Slack In The Water Pump Belt...

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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 02:04 AM
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Unhappy Air Pump Removed, But Now Theres Slack In The Water Pump Belt...

Ok, Ive heard about problems resulting in the removal of the air pump. Is this the problem? The belt moves the alt when the crankshaft turns, but it doesnt turn the water pump as much as it should. It kinda slips. Is this why I need the dual belts on the alt? So that I have two going on the water pump in an effort to stop slipping? If so, where can I find such a pully?

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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 02:09 AM
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mazdatrix sells one for less than $50 i believe.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 02:41 AM
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$50 for a freaking pully? Screw that...Ill just tighten the damn thing hella tight . Or something...

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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 02:58 AM
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If you tighten the belt really tight it eats the front bearing. That's bad.

Ensure the belt is properly adjusted (not loose but not guitar-string tight either) and ditch the clutch fan for an electric one. Solved all my problems.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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what do i all have to remove on a 13b gsl-se the pump, charcoal cannister?, and the hose/ **** that goes to the fron of car, near air cleaner? i might unhook all that ****, gut the air pump and mount it back on, instead of spending 50 u.s. on a pulley, or go to implement dealer, find a farm pulley cheap.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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Ensure the belt is properly adjusted (not loose but not guitar-string tight either) and ditch the clutch fan for an electric one. Solved all my problems.
Good idea, but I already have an electric fan . Oh and hotty made me think of something else, since I pulled the pump and ac/cv valve off while the engine wasnt in the car, is there anything in the car that I can remove that was part of that system? Like the charcoal canisters that he mentioned?

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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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If you already have an electric fan then no worries, just put a new belt on there!
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 04:10 PM
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I dont think there's any reason to remove the charcoal cannister. I've heard it's better to just leave that there and remove just about everything else.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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Hey i will check for sure but on my 79 with no pump i think i cut the spacer for the alt. mount but as far as the alt. belt goes you need a dayco top cog i dont have part no right now but i will find it and let you know the alt wont slip or squeel with that belt
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 09:29 AM
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ha, i gutted the air pump, now it spins great, weighs about 3lbs and wont cost me $50 u.s ($65 cdn) I lubricated the inner sleeve that, when fins are attached creates a vaccuum, and now it is wicked.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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Or, you could have just run a 3L220 belt from the engine pulley to the water pump pulley...
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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Or, you could have just run a 3L220 belt from the engine pulley to the water pump pulley...
This is probably a dumbass question, but how do you get this short belt on over the main and water pump pulleys (no adjustment) and how do you tighten it up? Do you have to pull the water pump pulley to install this belt?
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 12:05 PM
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Its really easy. You run it over the water pump pulley and start it on the engine pulley... use a wrench on the bolt inside the pulley to turn the engine over enough for the belt to slide on... takes about 10 seconds. In my experience, the belt fits perfectly... not tight, but enough that you CANT spin the water pump pulley by hand anymore.

To anyone interested in doing this, make sure you get a high quality 3L220 belt made for automotive applications... the 1st one I got was a cheapo belt.. it lasted 3 days lol.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:46 PM
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Its really easy. You run it over the water pump pulley and start it on the engine pulley... use a wrench on the bolt inside the pulley to turn the engine over enough for the belt to slide on... takes about 10 seconds. In my experience, the belt fits perfectly... not tight, but enough that you CANT spin the water pump pulley by hand anymore
I take it you have to remove the fan (if you still have a stock fan) to mount this belt - that would have to be one small belt and it will never fit over the fan blades
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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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Yeah, the fan has to go lol. Sorry... forgot about that part .
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