this link may shed some light.

http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg22.htm

My mechanic just came back from puertorico and told me there are two 12A's now in the high sevens.

Don't unerestemate the power of the force.

"12A That is"

 

the link dosent work for me

 

yeah, me neither

 

It worked for me earlier, but doesn't now. weird!

 

This site has exceeded its hourly bandwidth ... looks like we broke it

 

That's too funny!

 

i have heard of a more powerful 13b than the one on that site, i did not see any proof of it so the guy could be fulla ****, but who knows. it was a 13b and it had single turbo runnin 30 somethin lbs. of boost. he said it had 850somethin horses to the ground. it was in some datsun drag car, i dont remember anything about what kinda times it ran though. he was also workin on a 1000+hp 20b for the same datsun.

 

Delerium can't be making too much power if its only using 4 x 1100cc injectors.

Still not convinced in any way, shape or form that 680rwhp is possible from a 2 rotor 12A...

 

Yeah steve I find it kinda funny too

 

Ill believe it when i see his car run, but that webpage kicks *** and i definatly bookmarked it.

 

yea 1100cc injectors seem a bit small.... but its better than the stock nikki carb .....

 

I believe that Ari Yallon's FD was putting down around 645RWHP.. that was about a year ago.. I can guess that it makes more now.

 

How do you know what fuel pressure he is running?

Could be cranked right up like I have mine and flowing almost 1400cc from a 1100cc injector.

Could be like Nissan Godzilla's were here in Australia using 550cc injectors to make 700bhp !

They ran 125 to 130 psi static fuel pressure via a mechanical pump on stock injectors !

*Mildly edited by Acuspeed

 

I dont know what fuel pressure he is running and quite frankly I don't care. He has run 8.2 in a car weighing 2 tenths (as the term that was in here didn't equate to a measurement, I was unsure of what to edit in ... therefore, I'm just leaving a blank -- Acuspeed). If it was making 700hp to the back wheels, it would be in the 7s @ 17x+ mph

And the comparison with a factory backed race team doesn't sit in this discussion at all. The injectors weren't stock either. They were Nismo and static pressure was 100psi...

 

680 HP is not impossible. The horsepower difference between a fully done 12A and 13B is not that large. (Torque is a large difference though).

There are guys running 40-50lbs of boost on blow through 12A cars in Puerto Rico all the time.

If you add Juice the equation, it is possible

I personally don't believe you can get anywhere near that with a massaged Nikki, even if it was Paul Yaw himself.

But that's just my opinion.

 

Do I hear an AMEN !!

 

So how do you know ? What he has made, why doubt it..just because in your opinion it can't be done.

Give the guy some credit Steve, 680 odd RWHP = around 790bhp in their language. i just do not understand why you have to bag something because it does not add up in your view.

 

anytime your in LA call me!!! i'll give you a ride you'll never forget! have you ever gotten sideways at 90 mph in 3rd gear ??

 

Well 790 odd bhp is possible for sure, The numbers make sence if it is bridged and reving to 9k @ max power with high boost.

680rwhp12a has a similar set up too (in power)

 

I'll agree with directfreak. High boost along with NO2 can take you amazing places if you have the knowledge and experience to make it work.

 

im not bragging , actually im not satisfied at all . right now im doing more experimental porting , changing plenum shape, and im going to try a larger exh. turbine to get more power. hopefully. i dont like N2O , its too finiky and if you have the right combonation you dont need it... sorry if you thought i was bragging im just tring to get my point across... why go 13b when you could keep your 12a???

 

no **** 12a is a win win situation

 

people dont give 12a the credit it deserves

 

In my opinion? More like the rest of the rotary world!

Delerium has run huge numbers, no doubt. He has the power and is more than likely making it through massive amounts of NOS. But that car would weigh well under 2000lbs. AVENGE weighs close to 2000lbs with driver and is making 720hp to the flywheel and is running 8.5 @ 155.

680hp12a just said he doesn't use NOS. His car has not run any numbers. Lots of people claim big numbers on a dyno, but until their cars run a number on the track, the dyno printout isnt worth the paper its printed on.

Who cares what porting technique is being used? Who cares what it revs to? Everything works on paper remember, until its shown in the real world and on the track, theory means nothing.

If 680hp12a took his car to the track, it would want to run above 150mph terminal to gain any credibility. With 680hp at the tyres, it should **** it in.

Yeah, I have been sideways in 4th @ over 100mph. **** tyres do that.

 

Ive been sideways in my car at 120mph, it dosent take 680rwhp to do that! try about 400 and not the best tyres.