4 puck clutch and lightweight fly wheel??
09-06-06, 11:52 PM
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4 puck clutch and lightweight fly wheel??
so first of all how many people have a 4 or 6 puck clutch and a lightweight flywheel?? and for those to do are they hard to drive around town?? a kid tried tellin me that you cant drive them around town due to the weight of the flywheel and how it doesnt have as much momentum and that the clutch is really grabby and when u start of outta first u gotta ride it a lot?? dont you have to break them in?? on my truck i put a new disc in and had my flywheel resurfaced and it was hella grabby at first and now its just fine.. and i know it still gets grip because i 4wheel in it and i know it doesnt slip then..so i guess what my ? is is can you drive a 4 or 6 puck clutch w/a light weight flywheel around town w/o burning ur clutch?? thx
09-07-06, 01:36 AM
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A lightened flywheel requires a little more throttle finesse from a standstill, but it's very easy to get used to. As far as a 4-puck clutch, yes they can be streetable, but why torture yourself? They have an abrupt engagement, which would get very annoying in stop-and-go traffic. Unnecessary if you ask me, unless you have a ton of power (I've seen 350-400rwhp held with a street disc). They grab hard, but they're also harsh on the rest of the drivetrain.
09-10-06, 03:25 PM
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This crap? and sence when am I a kid? what did i say what wasn't true? smooth bud, smooth. not once did i say it's not possible to drive a rx-7 with a ultralight flywheel and a 4 puck clutch in town. i said so and so said he could drive it around with no problem and get use to it... i dont brlieve him. i explained how that light of a flywheel effects your idle and is barely enough weight to bring your rotors arround to the next combustion cycle. you would either have to gas it and ride the clutch from a stop everytime (hard to do) or rev it and dump the clutch everytime. to smoothly take off would very difficult to do and hard on the clutch and to dump it would be hard on everything els. then i say that clutch wouldn't last him very long in stop and go traffic if he did have this setup. where is this "crap" coming from? If you have to ask advice on the forum AFTER you get done arguing with me then why argue in the first place? apparently you dont know what your talking about or you wouldnt have made this thread.
btw i have a 6 puck on a stock flywheel. its no smoother or less grippy after its broke in.
btw i have a 6 puck on a stock flywheel. its no smoother or less grippy after its broke in.
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09-10-06, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by keithrulz
This crap? and sence when am I a kid? what did i say what wasn't true? smooth bud, smooth. not once did i say it's not possible to drive a rx-7 with a ultralight flywheel and a 4 puck clutch in town. i said so and so said he could drive it around with no problem and get use to it... i dont brlieve him. i explained how that light of a flywheel effects your idle and is barely enough weight to bring your rotors arround to the next combustion cycle. you would either have to gas it and ride the clutch from a stop everytime (hard to do) or rev it and dump the clutch everytime. to smoothly take off would very difficult to do and hard on the clutch and to dump it would be hard on everything els. then i say that clutch wouldn't last him very long in stop and go traffic if he did have this setup. where is this "crap" coming from? If you have to ask advice on the forum AFTER you get done arguing with me then why argue in the first place? apparently you dont know what your talking about or you wouldnt have made this thread.
btw i have a 6 puck on a stock flywheel. its no smoother or less grippy after its broke in.
btw i have a 6 puck on a stock flywheel. its no smoother or less grippy after its broke in.
09-10-06, 08:21 PM
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dude i never said i knew what i was talking about....i wanted som1 with experience to have input and see if i was wrong in my "theories" which it turns out that i wasnt totally off... and i was also thinking about getting one a while back and wondered if what you said was true... thats the end of it!
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09-10-06, 08:50 PM
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How "lightweight" are we talking.
Lightweight steel flywheels and lightweight aluminum flywheels for our cars are hugely different in their driving characteristics.
If you went aluminum with a 4-puck, it would be hard to city drive. By some people's terms, it would be "un-streetable", though you could drive it, it would be a PITA and you wouldn't be in an environment where the true benefits of that setup could be demonstratable.
You have to realize that almost anything can be "drivable"... I once heard someone on here say that they consider their Peripheral Port streetable, though most people wouldn't consider it so. The question you have to ask is whether the driving characteristics of your setup are going to have more of a drawback than a benefit in your application.
Personally, for the street I'd go with lightweight steel and streetable full disc. 4-puck on a light steel would probably be okay too, but for me I think its engagement would probably be too abrupt for me on a day-to-day basis.
Stop the bickering. You could have asked the question without referring to the discussion you had with keithrulz at all. You could also use capitals and proper spelling, and single periods at the end of sentences. An extremely small amount of effort can make your posts less likely to turn your threads into bickering and arguements, and more likely that people will read and respond positively.
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Lightweight steel flywheels and lightweight aluminum flywheels for our cars are hugely different in their driving characteristics.
If you went aluminum with a 4-puck, it would be hard to city drive. By some people's terms, it would be "un-streetable", though you could drive it, it would be a PITA and you wouldn't be in an environment where the true benefits of that setup could be demonstratable.
You have to realize that almost anything can be "drivable"... I once heard someone on here say that they consider their Peripheral Port streetable, though most people wouldn't consider it so. The question you have to ask is whether the driving characteristics of your setup are going to have more of a drawback than a benefit in your application.
Personally, for the street I'd go with lightweight steel and streetable full disc. 4-puck on a light steel would probably be okay too, but for me I think its engagement would probably be too abrupt for me on a day-to-day basis.
Stop the bickering. You could have asked the question without referring to the discussion you had with keithrulz at all. You could also use capitals and proper spelling, and single periods at the end of sentences. An extremely small amount of effort can make your posts less likely to turn your threads into bickering and arguements, and more likely that people will read and respond positively.
Jon
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