I am awsome. I say three words and two people get in a big ol argument about it. Now here is what I have to say about drifting. There are two types of people that do it. Those before the American scene and those after this **** hit our shores. And yes drifter is 13 of my forum name so glad you can read. Really should have it changed.

The whole point is mad tyte yo is because most people who are drifting now

1 want to right to pro with mad HP
2 drift all tyte on public streets
3 and say YO i didnt know he was there when an accident is caused because of his stupidity

I left the scene a few months after the craze hit mainly because I couldnt afford it. There were to many takumi wanna bes. And it just wasnt fun anymore because the fear of being paired up to run a bi with some idiot that is running 400hp and just got his license, all because he wants to drift mad tyte yo.

Also for the guy who said Well this guy is only running 200hp and in the pros. Please stop. You look like a fool. But then here you go "but I read it here" dont believe what you here. Every car in the pros is running at least 400hp.

 

there seems to be an ever increasing amount of vinyls on drift cars these days. and just because alot of idiots do drift doesnt make it any less cool when you see a nice sleeper sliding around a parking lot in perfect control.

 

Oh but it does.

 

suit yourself, ive said enough for today.

 

Thats not a very accurete statement, the corrollas that run the events are mainly all motor. So at max, i mean max power thats no more than 200whp. Personally I have 200whp @ 4lbs of boost, but im not a pro or claim to be one. But I think the car would be able to compete w/ the big hp cars. Thats the thing about drifting its judged on a sliding scale. The judges know that a low hp car isnt going to be able to pull away from 400+ hp, but if that 200hp can stay right on the other guy then 200hp would have a higher points.

I agree there are a lot of posers now adays. When this new movie comes out its going to be even worse(FnF3). I think drifting is best compared to the import drag scene. But atthis point drifting needs every fan it can get to allow the sport to grow.

If you dont like drifting, or whats it become thats fine. But there is no reason to dog someone that enjoys it. Or wants to learn how to do it. You never know this guy might go pro in a 1st gen, and that would just be badass. Life to short to be all worried, and bent of shape with what some one else wants to do. Thats my rant

 

Back on topic
first mod bring the car up on its maintaince items, fluids, hoses belts etc

diff...really need a good diff. stock will work for little while, bit if you drift atleast 2 a week you will need a rebuild in 3 months. If you have the money KAAZ is the ****, gears would also help out alot w/ low hp

Leave the rear bushings blowen out, but some poly's in the front

Coilovers camber plates
Thats all you need to start learning
Turbos do help out alot....but its all about having fun. and you do that w/ the stock motor
learn how to do dougnuts, then figure 8's move on from there

 

is there any first gens where you go to drift that are n/a
and do they proforme just as good as ya turboed car?

 

No one else has really been out in a 1st gen. But the red car all stock i could pull of some decent ones. Problem with really low hp is that you are going to scrub speed when drifting. So you need to go really really fast start the drift early to pull of a good long drift. But for beginers if you are just practiceing the 1st gear figure 8's you be all right. Also the 12a has what maybe 100hp so, im sure if you had 150whp you could pull of some nice drifts. Plus with gears and nice diff would make you life alot easier

 

To help out with the main topic and the Initial D topic, lemme stick in some advice as well.

Main Post: Also, before even setting up your car, get used to feeling the weight of your car shifting as you take turns and whatnot while pushing it to the limit. This'll help you in determining how far you can go control wise before you spin/slide out of control. Also, try to work on braking techniques before setting up. Doing all this will help you realize what your stock setup can do so that once you upgrade your suspension, brakes, gears, etc, you'll immediately notice how much of a difference it is and will be easily able to adjust to it.

Initial D topic: Initial D is an anime that focuses around Japanese drifting. Really good anime, I enjoy watching it all the time, but MIND YOU, I'm not a simple-minded, moronic, immature, nitwit wannabe like a lot of these young kids that watch it are. And with FnF3 coming out (dear God, how many accidents do you think'll happen now when all the youngin's that see it think they can do the same in their cars? I shudder to imagine.)

Blwfly: Also, the one thing that may help you out, if interested, is that in I-D, the main character learns perfect drift with an underpowered car. <---- Since it's so slow, he doesn't slow down wastefully. Therefore, performance wise, you'd have to REALLY know your stock n/a car and its limitations to drift it exceptionally well. Hope that helps some.

 

To work on your tech. I suggsest a road cone or two and an open parking lot. Best thing since sliced bread. And dont just focus on the side brake, I only used it for corrections. Stupid american drifting focuses on the sidebrake for thier drifts and large amounts of power. Clutch kicks are easy and so are fients when you get the rythm down.

And just to poke fun at American drifting again. If you watch the drift bible he says useing the side brake is for just starting out and beginers. Now I quote Formula D, OMG he dosnt have a side brake anymore cause it broke, how is he going to compete like that, its nearly impossible to drift without it. The king just pretty much called all American pros n00bs.

 

yeah i watched the drift bible it really good shows ya good tech and what to do as a noob figure 8s sliding to a stop where you want it 180s 360s etc

85 fb that was exsactly why i asked about the n/a driftin and your right about learnin the limitations of stock before modifing and yep it does help

hmm i dont think a parkin lot is a good idea i couldnt offord fines
i gotta find me some open tarmac somewhere as iv seen cops have runs here so i wouldnt provoke them lol

 

blwfly -- It does help. And, I don't know why anything says to use the e-brake to initiate a drift. A proper drift is to allow the weight of the vehicle to pull itself into a slide while properly manipulating the accelerator to continue the drift. Having all 4 wheels makes sure you don't get pulled out by the G-force. Normally, some people use oversteering to control their car while drifting around a corner, allowing the rear wheels to break away first, but a really good driver uses all four wheels to drift.

You should definitely find an open section of tarmac to practice on, and if anything, once found, just practice on having the car slide sideways. Get up to speed, about 40 mph should be enough, and then practice going sideways. Don't powerslide (stepping on the gas to break the tires' traction loose to initiate the slide), just gently pull the steering wheel one way and then yank on it to the opposite direction quickly to get it to force its weight into the slide. Doing this a few times will at least give you a general idea of how it'll react. Once you get comfortable doing that, it should soon register in your head on how you can control that (how much faster you can go to slide more or vice versa) and then work on accelerator control to direct your slide. Any more questions, you can PM me.

 

sure ill keep that in mind ill certinly pm u
so the thread can can continue its path but this is like the 4th one thats poped up did this guy search at all cause if seen driftatlant write what he is runnin and sujestions before

 

But do be carefull with the fient. I have seen at least three cars flip. Mainly because they didnt start giving the car any gas, and the tires they were using were high walled tires, tucked under and caused it to roll. Nothing like ZOMG hes in the air roll. But it did get up on there side pretty quick.

 

I never said DriftLanta was a pro, I was just saying that you don't need 400hp in a light car to be a drifter. BTW, the "I read it here" was straight from DriftLanta's post.

Way to misread what I wrote...

BTW, here is a quote:
His old SA that he drifted only had 230whp. In the same thread that I got this from (the link posted above), Slammed GSL says, "I have to work so hard to get my 105whp 12a to drift." He doesn't say that he can't do it, though.

So, to sum it up:
A) I never said anyone was a professional
B) You don't need 400 hp to drift

 

Oh I didnt mean to offend you or anybody for that matter. I was just saying that almost all the pros are running 400hp. I didnt mean for it to sound like its impossible for you to drift without it.

 

thanks for the posts guys

 

Uhhh I'd love 400hp n/a, forget clutch kick....all throttle baby! As for practice, find a industrial part or large truck loading dock at 11pm or later and have at it. I have a 2 lane round-about on my route home from work (get off at 11:30pm)and hit it everynight till some headlights start coming up the road. It's taken me 18months to get where I'm at now.....another 12months to get where I want to be.

 

yeah iv been on the look out for spots wheres its an easey spot for lookin and escaping lol
but most will be at a track only 1 1/2 hr drive and will save me lots of money on fines etc

 

reckon its possible to drift in a 6m 2 tonne v8 wagon?

 

duno what that looks like but seems to be askin for a roley poley lol

 

Try the Eugene airport, lots of pavement. Spend 5 minutes and split, go back every week or so after 11pm. Did you go to Thurston or S.H.???
Thurston 81'

 

if i could find a way to get a 87 crown vic to slide i think it might be possible, trust me the 2 ton will help you with the hp too

but yes you dont need much to get a car sliding especially if you do some practice in the rain, i dont have much experience but the little that i do have i've learned with a stock 12a in the rain and sometimes in the dry weather.

 

the thing I don't like about drifting is any car can be a successfull drift car with the right setup and driver. Falken has a EF Civic, a Gen1 Camero, 2 FD's, 350Z, and who knows what else. Not any car can be a successfull autox or road racing car. It takes the right car, setup and driver.

 

i can just imagine the look on the people faces when they see my 66 plymouth fury hearse sliding round a figure 8 :P