1st gen with a 3 rotar, sound good?
08-26-02, 01:10 PM
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Re: 1st gen with a 3 rotar, sound good?
Originally posted by LilFatCrazyWop
what do you guys think of a 1st gen that is about 2000 pounds with a 3 rotar?
what do you guys think of a 1st gen that is about 2000 pounds with a 3 rotar?
What age are you going to be?
Just out of curiosity.
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I was going to do it, and I actually just sold the 20B that was going in my 85 GS. The motor is the least of your costs. Don't forget, rear end, trany, brakes, cooling, exhaust, motor mounts, ignition, computer etc. going from 100 or 130 hp to over 300 requires extensive modifications. But if I ever have the money I will do it. I heard that you can't beat the sound of a 3 rotor. The stock 20B TT from a cosmo will produce 300hp on it's own, mild upgrades can take it to 450 easily.
In short have at least $10,000 -$15000 canadian if you plan on doing all of the work yourself. If you have a shop do the work you could double or triple that amount.
In short have at least $10,000 -$15000 canadian if you plan on doing all of the work yourself. If you have a shop do the work you could double or triple that amount.
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Originally posted by Keaponlaffen
Got five digit $$$$$?
Jeff
Got five digit $$$$$?
Jeff
http://www.hurley-engineering.ltd.uk/TripleTreat.htm
roll in roll out for £4500 - $7200
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Originally posted by mar3
And worse, a 180 HP streetport 2 rotor 12A with a 150 shot of gas would beat it...
And worse, a 180 HP streetport 2 rotor 12A with a 150 shot of gas would beat it...
on their face when you tell them they've been beaten by a 12a 
08-26-02, 04:12 PM
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2000lb with a 3-rotor? Good luck trying!
Rotaries are much heavier than they appear. A 3-rotor conversion weighs much more than a boinger conversion (which is roughly the same weight as stock).
Rotaries are much heavier than they appear. A 3-rotor conversion weighs much more than a boinger conversion (which is roughly the same weight as stock).
08-26-02, 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by MikeLMR
and you get to see the look of on their face when you tell them they've been beaten by a 12a
and you get to see the look of
on their face when you tell them they've been beaten by a 12a
08-27-02, 02:55 AM
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Originally posted by peejay
jimlab weighed his 3-rotor on the crate and it was something like 562lb. that's about 150-200lb heavier than a N/A 2-rotor.
jimlab weighed his 3-rotor on the crate and it was something like 562lb. that's about 150-200lb heavier than a N/A 2-rotor.
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200 lbs! Holy crap! But I'm sure it's easy to over come that when it's logical to assume that you can get over 600hp from it...Senior Hitman?? 650hp...wants 800?!?!?!
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Originally posted by LilFatCrazyWop
ya but why would you want a rx7 with no turbo and the extra hp coming out of it will easily make up for the weight. il be 17 on the 28th
ya but why would you want a rx7 with no turbo and the extra hp coming out of it will easily make up for the weight. il be 17 on the 28th
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08-27-02, 07:18 AM
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there are a few pics here.
http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...=ST&f=1&t=5061
http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...=ST&f=1&t=5061
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Originally posted by defprun
I heard that the 3 rotor wasnt much heavier than a 13btt?! And that it took some lightening to get it back to stock weight?!?!?!?!
I heard that the 3 rotor wasnt much heavier than a 13btt?! And that it took some lightening to get it back to stock weight?!?!?!?!
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Originally posted by mar3
At 562 lbs, I would join the V8 club first...Bruce Fulper has a 350 cid Pontiac engine cranking out 542 HP on the motor with 400+ ft. lbs of torque at 2500 rpm. If I'm going to have an anchor up there, I'd at least like it to have real guts, ie., TORQUE...plus that engine would ingest a 250 shot of nitrous all day long, so that puts the total at 792 HP on a daily driver motor that idles at 900 RPM. A rotary with 4 rotors won't do that...
At 562 lbs, I would join the V8 club first...Bruce Fulper has a 350 cid Pontiac engine cranking out 542 HP on the motor with 400+ ft. lbs of torque at 2500 rpm. If I'm going to have an anchor up there, I'd at least like it to have real guts, ie., TORQUE...plus that engine would ingest a 250 shot of nitrous all day long, so that puts the total at 792 HP on a daily driver motor that idles at 900 RPM. A rotary with 4 rotors won't do that...
Based on testing with my car, Peter Farrell has stated that 1000 hp is a realistic goal for a 20B (assumes engine has been modified like the 13B-rew in Peter's drag car, including a 100 shot of nitrous).
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Re: 1st gen with a 3 rotar, sound good?
Originally posted by LilFatCrazyWop
what do you guys think of a 1st gen that is about 2000 pounds with a 3 rotar?
what do you guys think of a 1st gen that is about 2000 pounds with a 3 rotar?
A simpler, though heavier, route is to buy my car. See www.cris.com/~Asam/20B.html
08-27-02, 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by Attila the Fun
In summary, it's a great idea, if you have buckets of money and the time and patience for a little R & D.
A simpler, though heavier, route is to buy my car. See www.cris.com/~Asam/20B.html
In summary, it's a great idea, if you have buckets of money and the time and patience for a little R & D.
A simpler, though heavier, route is to buy my car. See www.cris.com/~Asam/20B.html
Your 20B FC 'Vert gets me going.
I love that you took the HEAVY Vert, and put real power down on it. I also live the fact that you took the "ho-hum" FC lines and put a Mariah kit on her.
I would LOVE to buy your car. But my wife would kill me.
One Cosmo Project at at time.
Maybe in the future I'll buy yours or do one on my own. *sigh*.
08-27-02, 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by Attila the Fun
478 lb./ft. of torque with the stock turbos and no interior engine modification. Perfectly adequate for a daily driver.
478 lb./ft. of torque with the stock turbos and no interior engine modification. Perfectly adequate for a daily driver.
And you have to figure, it's still turbocharged. (Yuck)
I think his Pontiac analogy was meant as an extreme example.... Pontiacs are some ungodly-heavy engines! Now, on the other hand, a SBF would fit nicely and doesn't have the weight penalty of a 20B. And if you wanted, there's plenty of room for a pair of turbos.
- PJ (happy to say that a N/A 12A is more than enough...)