Recently my 83 started having issues charging. The alternator was changed and still no charging. The next day I went to work on the alternator wiring, adding new wires from alternator to battery and to fuse block. However when I went to turn on the car and move it out the headlight motors wouldn't work. The switch turns on lights, the headlights work, as do the high beams, however the headlight motors do not raise the lights. I can't get them to pop up with the switch on the steering or the switch on the console. I checked all the fuses, all are fine.

I need to know if it's losing power to the switch, if there is a relay issue I might be facing, if the switch can be dead(both at the same time) and why they might die so fast.

The car has 82k miles and is a garage queen, this is the only modifiation it will have. And i would rather fix the stock parts.

 

You said you checked all the fuses but did you check the fusible links? These are located on the driver side strut tower in the little brown box with the big wires running into it.

Edit: I see you've posted multiple messages about the exact same problem, you should consolidate it all into one thread. Also you need to have a little bit of patience, people will respond but you need to make it easy for them.

 

Two threads, two different questions. I assumed that people would see fuses and understand that meant all forms. Yes the fusible links and the fuses are all fine. I replaced the fusible links with fc fuses. It is shocking to me that there is not one thread on the rx7club that covers this, not one person who actually has the information. I find nothing but people saying "look it up" and dead threads that never came to a conclusion or had a person state what the color, size or routing of any wires are. Saying look it up in the manual is just saying "I dont know, and cant read the manual either". That is not very helpful. I was hoping for someone who can help.

I would like to keep the car stock and not modify the wiring, but I need to be sure what they problem is... If the links, fuses and wires are all fine, if the switch is sending current to turn the lights on, is the switch the problem or is the wiring the problem. If I knew the color of the wires going into the switch feeding it power and the wires color and size coming off the switch to the headlights it would be easy for me to trouble shoot if it is wiring, the switch or the motors itself.

So what i need is the color of the wires to the switch (pic would be great) and the color or pin position of the wires coming out and going to the motor.

If I cannot fix this and keep it stock my intents are to rewire the entire car with aftermarket relays, but this would be a last resort just to keep it on the road. I would rather it stay the time capsule and stock though. I do not trust local shops to respect the condition of the car to do this wiring, so I am relying on the community to actually give answers and not tell me to figure it out myself.

 

You want to keep it stock and you have added wiring, and FC fuses? If the headlights were working prior to you "adding wires" for an alternator gripe you thought you had, or upgrading to FC fuses you need to go back and check on the work you did previously. You are not asking for help, your asking people to troubleshoot your problem for you and give you the answer you seek. Get a shop manual, download the wiring manuals, and educate yourself on your car and it's various systems it will pay dividends in the long run if you intend on keeping the car. Plenty of folks will help when you get stuck on something however, asking someone to give you wire colors or pin numbers doesn't demonstrate any motivation on your part to fix the problems you are having with your garage queen. Just my" two-cents," feel free to ignore it!

 

I want to keep it stock. I have checked the fusible links to assure they were good with fc fuses. I have not added wiring yet, I was saying that I was going to be redoing the alternator wires, as stock to stock locations. To assure the charging system works. While getting ready to do this my lights motors failed.

You are making problems and solving them when they are not real by not hearing what I said.

Yes, trouble shooting my problem is helping me repair my car. I was under the impression that this place was designed to assist with troubleshooting, information about specifics like wiring colors and sizes and so on... Any ******* can just tell you to google it or buy a book. I thought this was not a place I would be experiencing that reaction.

If the best this place has is people who do not know, cannot say and at best will just rabble about how you need to do it without the site or those who are educated in the matter, I can only assume you are just saying this because you do not know, cannot find out and are avoiding just saying because of that.

Maybe you should have just ignored this post asking for technical advice if you are unable to give any? Thanks for telling me to figure it out though, big help. Ill get right on it.

 

We can only do so much over the internet. Have you taken any voltages to validate where you have voltage and not? Get the wiring schematic and find a good location to start measuring voltages. You can half-split the power circuit going to the headlights. A good place is the headlight switch. Use the schematic and determine which wires those are. If you need help, point us to the schematic page number you are at and we can offer help. Respect is given to those that help themselves. We are here to fill in the gaps.

 

Yes I am trying to read the burn ants schematic online. It downloaded fine and I usually have no problems reading these things but the quality of the like five pages it is looks terrible.

Main question to start trouble shooting power sources. Can anyone tell me what color the wire is that will be coming into the dash section from the engine bay and go to the switch on the column. When I get off work I intend to pull the switch from the center console and see if there is power going to it.

Last question, how can I just power direct to the power motors to raise the lights to check those relays and motors? What color is the hot wire, what color is ground.

Thanks!

 

I would abandon this thread and use this one. I posted the schematic and some info. Let's start there and we can move forward.

https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...op-up-1062184/