jorx81@aol.com

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I commended them so I will speak, Is cpracing a company that pays employees to make this stuff?
I thought it was some kids like me.
Especially after seeing the gs emblem on the hood.
lol
Looks like they make quality stuff, but the prices...
The rack and pinion conversion seems high to me, how much does a reman vw rack cost? Or even new? plus some hardware that would be relativly easy to fab, If you are capable of installing their kit, and know a welder.
The light kit it just a box, can't tell what that's made of(i didn't fully read the descr.) but it could be made from just about anything, you can bend plexiglass if you heat it., if you have the rights tools you can cut it and finish edges quickly. Personally I don't think it's worth 500.

Rx7carl

Funny stuff. Excellent kit CP! You guys whine about not having the cool stuff for our cars, then when someone makes it, and its not $10, you bitch about the price. I agree that if you can find a way to get the price down you'll sell more kits, but I understant that your profit margin is probably low. I suggest you explain what this kit consists of, and provide some more pics. This I think will quiet some of the guys with sticker shock. Sounds like he's using the same lights as the MTM kit. Dem Hellas are hella 'spensive guys. Ya get what you pay for.

guru

Having read the posts here is the additoanl information requested. First off yes the kits are water proof, they are completely urethane sealed to prevent water, dirt etc... from getting into the buckets. Kit price is mainly determined by the cost of components and materials, the kit would have been less expensive if we had used road boyz, or auto zone knock off lights, but we wanted functional/improved lighting so we opted for the higher quality Hella light, the beam pattern is a wide pencil beam. The bucket the lights sit in are aluminum to keep weight down and are one continuous piece. Also the kit comes PLUG AND PLAY for wiring and uses all factory switches, no cutting wires, no tape, no butt connectors, no under dash work, pull out old junk and plug in new system. Will take some more pictures outside and get light pattern diagrams up as soon as I can. You will have to excuse the big "GS" badge, customers car so it had to stay. In future please direct all questions or concerns to info@cpracing.ca as we can not monitor the forums and will not be responding here again. Cheers

Chris
CP RACING

Glazedham42

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Well put sir!
As an engineering major that's one of the things I've learned more than anything. You get what you friekin' pay for. People always think that parts can be mass produced for pennies on the dollar but the sad truth is that mankind isn't always that technologically advanced. And lots of times a piece of plastic or a hunk of metal can cost a load of $$$ by itself. People often seem to think that all materials are available at dirt cheap prices. By the time you purchase the exotic engineered materials, do the custom fabrication, and pay whoever is making them you're looking at some serious cash! Not everything on earth is stamped out of a mold at some factory in Taiwan. I think some people are just going to have to accept the fact that these are custom made parts for a single application and for that reason costs are going to be rather high.

BTW: CP Racing I think they look GREAT, but I really like my pop ups. Maybe some day I'll find a way to be able to switch back and forth between the two. Then I could just use whichever ones I felt like for the day. Best of both worlds!

Lt. Dan

The price I don't mind so much.... I'm curious about what would be involved if I scratched the lexan, or if I wanted to replace it after a year or two...

Dan

Cody

The site wasn't working for me with that first post link. Being a business man myself, I understand the expenses half of the production as well.

The thing that has to be realized, definately is the market.

Honda kids have there $10-20,000 cars, and buy their lights for $250-300 a pair.

We all have $50 - $3000 cars, and I'm not saying the market should be like $100...but honestly, your majority of 1st gen owners are broke *** kids.....lol.

Getting them down to $250 - 300 would be optimal, as myself, along with all the other interested SA/FB owners would jump at that price.

I appreciate the quality materials, but you also have to see it from the Honda angle....

Cheap *** plastic, just slapped together, few dabs of glue, plug and play, but crappy lighting.......and stores can hardly keep them in stock.

See what you can do about the $250-300 price range, and you'll keep yourself so busy shipping them out, and counting money.

wwilliam54

nice
but a little expensive

BIG J MIXALOT

it did not work

eddierotary

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i dont know about you guys but i wouldnt care paying the money for the lights. they look great. i probably get a pair by the summer, right now im working on something else

excitingleopard

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frstgen12a

I think everyone should cut cp racing some slack - i dont see anyone else producing new modifications for the 1st gen, especially not in bulk. I have no problems with the prices, you have to be expecting them to be a little high considering the market for their goods is so small. If you think something is too much then just dont buy it. Someone else will - basically there is no need for criticism especially towards sterling.

7addict

I'm really sad to hear the bickering over price here! How many times have you guys come up with a good idea and then tried to make it? You end up with some farmered piece of crap. I'll admit 500.00 is a lot of money (especially for us Canucks) but just because a lot of you gus only paid double or tripple that for your cars doesn't mean he's going to make ****. If he used inferior parts you would blast him for that. Just be kind enough to say good job but unfortunately you can not afford it. Personally I think think if they look as good in person that is a fair price, imagine Mazda Trix or Racing Beat selling them and thier price?

schwarzer ritter

it seems they're good but not 500 dollars good! one plus is that this kit might stop people from doing the sleepy eye thing. dam i hate that and the people that do that deserve a good slap! I won't buy it for 2 reasons 1 the price and 2 because its wrong ,rx7s need pop up lights taking them away would be like taking away its character. its just not the same.


............just my 2 cents

moremazda

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Chris @ CPRacing needs no slack, he needs respect, and he has mine. On this forum, esspecially this first gen section, there is ALOT of talk. "Why can't this be made for a FB?", "If they make this I'll buy it".

Well Chris is making the ****, and now, nobody is steping to the plate. It is almost like a damn pre-school here. I understand that the majority of the owners of first gen. Rx-7's are finacially challanged. What I don't understand are the comments about the cost of fabrication and design. To all that complain about the price: Have any of you acctually designed, finaced, fabricated and finished ANY product??? When you do, let us know if you think that $500 price tag is trully unfair.

I am aware of only three individuals that are acctually producing products for the first gen Rx-7 owner, and I would be very supprised if the revenew generated by the sales of those products acctually supports them and their families (if so applicable). So in my smelly-*** oppinion I think that lighting kit is a smoking deal (pretend that you own a 2nd or 3rd gen and tell me that you disagree).

Good job to Chris @ CPRacing, and good luck with all of your products.

Smelly-*** oppinioned,
Ryan

Rx7carl

kuhlrx7 and Sterling, I have deleted all but your first posts on this. Leave it at that.

Guru, save a set for me. I will have $ by the spring to get me a set.

mar3

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You missed a very important part of the 1stgen mentality, so I added it to your 1stgen "mass mentality" quote...So does CP racing, sometimes...you cannot do anything for this crowd w/o keeping that "cheap" caveat clearly in mind as you work the business market case for anything you might want to make for the 1stgen crowd in the North American Market. In Puerto Rico, they'll just laugh and have one of their buddies fab it for a six pack and an afternoon of fun. In Australia, it appears there they will spend any crazy amount to have a hard core racer. But here in the good ol USA? Fuggedaboudit...

ps. Sterling was actually quite restrained, kuhlrx7, and it was a delight to read the ensuing napalm which I have come to expect of him when someone tosses out a stupid, disrespectful statement. Here's the lesson. Next time, write the exact same opinion about FL oil changes, but never, ever direct that opinion at anyone on this board. That was the problem and hopefully, you've learned something from it.

From one ol' dawg to another...

1309 hrs CST....and I see Carl has pulled the hard knocks of the Lesson....sigh....did you move the 240SX thread yet? Let's take a look...

Rx7carl

Mario, I just got here (was watching the Rolex race). This was my first cleaning job of the day.

jimtesla

Hey

this looks like the first package to hit the market that you can buy.........so thats the price......

We dont have much to choose from.......my car will hit 20 years old next year.......I am glad there are options out there for me........

From reading most of the posts over the years this is what the masses were looking for............

Keep making toys for our cars.......

Anyway of seeing more pictures..........Higher resolution and different angles............maybe some of the headlights out of the car..........

frstgen12a

cp racing rules

JIMMY54

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Chris,

Good Job on the lights... Nice to see the First gen aftermarket section growing.

Lt. Dan

Still curious about replacement parts... Doing a lot of track days, etc., I can see scratching those lexan covers up in a year or so... Can I get a new cover?

Dan

mar3

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Eastwood, Micro-Mark and Griot's all have a polishing kit for plastics that will let you buff out minor scratches in clear plastic to make them look like new again. Additionally, Griot's and Pegasus make cut-out vinyl protector stick-on sheets to protect such surfaces when you know you'll be catching a lot of pebble and rock debris at the front of the car...

Max7

I'm glad these whiners don't have a 3rd gen, look at the $1000 flush light kits for them.....

If you are going to complain about the price, build it yourself and shut the hell up.

I get sick of people who want everything but want it for below cost. I'm not rolling in cash, I have to plan my purchases, I think it is a fair price as I have priced out the cost of the parts.

I spent $190 for 1 tire on my car, and I see people bitch they can't get 4 tires with rims for $200!

People just need to grow up, and if you don't like a product or its price keep it short and simple.

Not everyone can afford every product thats made for these cars, but at least someone out there is making an effort to make stuff.

One of the main reasons I never made copies of my cold air box, which would of been cake for me. but everyone would of bitched, "It's only a bent piece of aluminum, why does it cost so much?"

arrrggg...... this is why I'm so burned out on this forum.......

ok, back to the world.....

ioTus

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I look at it this way, I drive a performance sports car. I will buy only what works best. I value my car as much as any posh dood values his ferrari or porsche.

$500 for a kit? I'll buy one for sure, just to see how it looks (i may end up selling it if i dont like it tho)

I'd definately like to see more pictures.

dirty86

WHoly **** im buying those screw ur cheap asses.......get a credit card and give the card company 100 dollers a month thats $3.33 a day un hook your cable