12a turbo option.
Originally Posted by gmanuser
do you even know what an interooler is or what it does?
"The intercooler's purpose is to cool down the extremely hot air coming out of the turbo. This serves two purposes. One is to decrease the inital temperature of the air/fuel mixture entering the engine, which serves to reduce detonation and permit higher boost levels. The second reason is that cooler air is denser, therefore more air can fit into the combustion chamber. So you can see that denser air at higher pressure allows the engine to produce more power. This is illustrated by the improved performance of 175 HP at 5200 rpm and 175 ft-lbs from 2200-4800 rpm." from http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/perf/turboinfo.html
the exaust is almost where all the heat comes from
"The intercooler's purpose is to cool down the extremely hot air coming out of the turbo. This serves two purposes. One is to decrease the inital temperature of the air/fuel mixture entering the engine, which serves to reduce detonation and permit higher boost levels. The second reason is that cooler air is denser, therefore more air can fit into the combustion chamber. So you can see that denser air at higher pressure allows the engine to produce more power. This is illustrated by the improved performance of 175 HP at 5200 rpm and 175 ft-lbs from 2200-4800 rpm." from http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/perf/turboinfo.html
the exaust is almost where all the heat comes from
Originally Posted by gmanuser
blasted circled rong part and btw this is a 80 non cal carb. here is correct part you want to take off and hook up the intercooler to.
Originally Posted by dean23
my frind has a stock t2 and is going to upgrade everything on it.. so all his stock turbo parts are coming out, and wi;ll be most likely given to me...
i know im going to port and rebuild my motor sometime soon, but what all can i take and use from the t2 on my motor, and what additional parts will i need?
i did search, but fell short of wat i needed to know... thanx for the help guys.
i know im going to port and rebuild my motor sometime soon, but what all can i take and use from the t2 on my motor, and what additional parts will i need?
i did search, but fell short of wat i needed to know... thanx for the help guys.
Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k
gmanuser is english your second language? If it's not you need to ake your *** back to school. Learn how to write, then learn a little something about cars...
english is my first language its just that i suck at spelling and grammer and i am in college i am pre med. I do know about cars.
Drift fb thank you for saying what i was having a hard time saying.
revhead a major source of heat for most cars is the exaust regardless of whether you are running a turbo or not and i was trying to say that turbo only functions with exaust and without exaust besides point no combustial engine you have no propulsiondevice.
the 1980 mazda rx-7 manifold if you take off the part i circled you will hAVe a perfect circle you can blast cold air through straight from the intercooler its a little trick i figured out myself you have to take off the part i circled and vaul-ahh you have a forced induction whole and some usable bolts to tighten down whatever you are using.
I may not spell very good but i know what i am doing when it comes to cars.

p.s.
I did not mean to offend anyone i was just trying to clarify so the guy that posted this thread was not mislead. With all our bickering he will either be very confused or laughing histaricly.
Last edited by gmanuser; Sep 27, 2006 at 01:25 PM.
Originally Posted by gmanuser
the 1980 mazda rx-7 manifold if you take off the part i circled you will hAVe a perfect circle you can blast cold air through straight from the intercooler its a little trick i figured out myself you have to take off the part i circled and vaul-ahh you have a forced induction whole and some usable bolts to tighten down whatever you are using.
Originally Posted by gmanuser
if you are going to talk smack to me about my grammar at least check for typos. lol.
english is my first language its just that i suck at spelling and grammer and i am in college i am pre med. I do know about cars.
Drift fb thank you for saying what i was having a hard time saying.
revhead a major source of heat for most cars is the exaust regardless of whether you are running a turbo or not and i was trying to say that turbo only functions with exaust and without exaust besides point no combustial engine you have no propulsiondevice.
the 1980 mazda rx-7 manifold if you take off the part i circled you will hAVe a perfect circle you can blast cold air through straight from the intercooler its a little trick i figured out myself you have to take off the part i circled and vaul-ahh you have a forced induction whole and some usable bolts to tighten down whatever you are using.
I may not spell very good but i know what i am doing when it comes to cars.

p.s.
I did not mean to offend anyone i was just trying to clarify so the guy that posted this thread was not mislead. With all our bickering he will either be very confused or laughing histaricly.
english is my first language its just that i suck at spelling and grammer and i am in college i am pre med. I do know about cars.
Drift fb thank you for saying what i was having a hard time saying.
revhead a major source of heat for most cars is the exaust regardless of whether you are running a turbo or not and i was trying to say that turbo only functions with exaust and without exaust besides point no combustial engine you have no propulsiondevice.
the 1980 mazda rx-7 manifold if you take off the part i circled you will hAVe a perfect circle you can blast cold air through straight from the intercooler its a little trick i figured out myself you have to take off the part i circled and vaul-ahh you have a forced induction whole and some usable bolts to tighten down whatever you are using.
I may not spell very good but i know what i am doing when it comes to cars.

p.s.
I did not mean to offend anyone i was just trying to clarify so the guy that posted this thread was not mislead. With all our bickering he will either be very confused or laughing histaricly.
im pretty skeptical of pressurizing air through the carb by itself... dont see how it might work..
im either going to get a new carb, or have mine rebuilt and boost prepped. efi is an option that im willing to take, but keeping my carb seems easier at this point.
im either going to get a new carb, or have mine rebuilt and boost prepped. efi is an option that im willing to take, but keeping my carb seems easier at this point.
where is drift fb dangit i need him to explain he understod perfectly the first time what i was trying to say i will get a diagram some time this weekend up of what i am trying to show you to do and it wont be shoved won through the carb it will be shoved into theintake manifold. i have to go tutor math but later today or this weekend i will put up hopefully.
Originally Posted by gmanuser
where is drift fb dangit i need him to explain he understod perfectly the first time what i was trying to say i will get a diagram some time this weekend up of what i am trying to show you to do and it wont be shoved won through the carb it will be shoved into theintake manifold. i have to go tutor math but later today or this weekend i will put up hopefully.
dude, this is like my third post on this forum but I can tell you for a fact that you cant surpase the carb in any way. How is it suppose to get fuel if air isnt running through the carb.
gmanuser, so basically what you are trying to say is if you take off the acv, you can use air from the air pump, pump it into the intake, bypassing the carb, and have boost? Sorry, that's not going to work.
Originally Posted by perfect_circle
yea, you dont have to believe me when i say it, but when trochoid says your wrong you better say your sorry.
once agian i did not mean to offend anyone and no i didnt mean to use smog pump i have the schematics all drawn up at school but didnt have time to post them tommorrow i can post them it does not involve using the air pump and you are forcing the air down the manifold off the side. you people need to stop assuming things it doesnt help me explain it just gets me flustered why i even bother trying to give you insight heaven knows.
and perfect circle i am not an idiot i know you have to put in higher grade fuel when you turbo and that you have to upgrade ignition system and that you need make some mods to carb i am not stupid dude.
and perfect circle i am not an idiot i know you have to put in higher grade fuel when you turbo and that you have to upgrade ignition system and that you need make some mods to carb i am not stupid dude.
here is a rugh schematic once agian i am not trying to prove anything i am just trying to help and i didnt mean to offend anyone and the apex seals will only break if you dont know what you are doing.
the air has to go through the carburetor. you cannot introduce air into intake tract without adding extra fuel, and the only way to get the correct ammount of fuel is to go through the carb. unless you doing a drw through which you cannot use the stock manifold for.
What you have drawn up is the general configuration of a draw through turbo. Your setup will not work though. Any air going into the engine has to be metered. That means it has to go through the carb to draw in the correct amount of gas. Blow throughs don't run intercoolers because the gas can seperate from the fuel mix and puddle in the intercooler.
On a blow through, the adapter between the carb and intake is divided into 2 chambers. The air/fuel mix is drawn into the top chamber, goes to the intake side of the turbo, it's compressed, comes out the output side of the turbo, then goes to the lower chamber of the adapter.
The way you have it set up, the air from the turbo will blow into the combustion chamber and blow the fuel mix back up, out through the carb.
I recommend you pick up the book, Maximum Boost, by Corky Bell, to get a better understanding of how turbo systems work.
On a blow through, the adapter between the carb and intake is divided into 2 chambers. The air/fuel mix is drawn into the top chamber, goes to the intake side of the turbo, it's compressed, comes out the output side of the turbo, then goes to the lower chamber of the adapter.
The way you have it set up, the air from the turbo will blow into the combustion chamber and blow the fuel mix back up, out through the carb.
I recommend you pick up the book, Maximum Boost, by Corky Bell, to get a better understanding of how turbo systems work.
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sorry i ment to draw the turbo timer and blow off valve on that toop pipe and trochoid i realize what is happening here but if you manage it right you can run a setup like this with a intercooler because it wont puddle up in the intercooler only if done corectly and your pipe going into manifold is higher than manifold because of gravity and the laws of physics unless some massive amount of air is waiting to be expelled in the intake (wich is what the blow off valve is for) you wont have gas pile up. and when this setup is achived the carb while suck in air along with gas into engine so you get compressed air + gas (and eventually a spark from spark plug) = going hella fast!!!
sorry i ment to draw the turbo timer and blow off valve on that toop pipe and trochoid i realize what is happening here but if you manage it right you can run a setup like this with a intercooler because it wont puddle up in the intercooler only if done corectly and your pipe going into manifold is higher than manifold because of gravity and the laws of physics unless some massive amount of air is waiting to be expelled in the intake (wich is what the blow off valve is for) you wont have gas pile up. and when this setup is achived the carb while suck in air along with gas into engine so you get compressed air + gas (and eventually a spark from spark plug) = going hella fast!!!
Last edited by gmanuser; Sep 28, 2006 at 10:42 PM.
in theory, i understand this concept, but unless u show me this on a running car, i wont belive it. but ya. back my q's... hahahaha..
wats a good prive to expect for a blowthrough turbo setup? im planning on rebuild my engine when i get another DD and possibly street porting it. i want to put in the t2 trans, since ill be learning how to properly weld and fabricate, and a lightened flywheel.
wats a good prive to expect for a blowthrough turbo setup? im planning on rebuild my engine when i get another DD and possibly street porting it. i want to put in the t2 trans, since ill be learning how to properly weld and fabricate, and a lightened flywheel.
ohhh ya 1g is a reasonable price for everything you need from turbo time, blow off valve, ect... thats what i figure at least i have been adding up cost the last little bit trying to figure if i want to go turbo setup or w/o one.


