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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:28 AM
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First both of you chuckelheads need to realize that Robert does this for a living, he is not being rude, or anything like that, he is just stating the facts you want his service, then pay him, otherwise quit whining.

there is a reason why his screen name reads 680RWHP12A cause he built one that consistently runs the 1/4 making that much power, you pay for experience no lip service, and even though he is kind of cheesy, he is fairly reasonable pricewise, that being said, boost prepping a weber is much easier, they make more power, and it doesn't require any money to rob, or sterling, or carl to get it done, just a lot of time, money for jets, because you will try many out till you get it right, and a lot of beer.

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PS Rob, don't let the head swell two much
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 01:35 AM
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I use a nikki modified by Robert, I've ran it up to 20psi and it works great. Don't go over 16psi on a stock 12a though, unless you like cracking the back plate on the engine, trust me. I'd suggest buying a nikki from Robert that will actually work right. But if you want to try prepping it yourself have fun detonating the **** out of that engine.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by kenn_chan
First both of you chuckelheads need to realize that Robert does this for a living, he is not being rude, or anything like that, he is just stating the facts you want his service, then pay him, otherwise quit whining.

there is a reason why his screen name reads 680RWHP12A cause he built one that consistently runs the 1/4 making that much power, you pay for experience no lip service, and even though he is kind of cheesy, he is fairly reasonable pricewise, that being said, boost prepping a weber is much easier, they make more power, and it doesn't require any money to rob, or sterling, or carl to get it done, just a lot of time, money for jets, because you will try many out till you get it right, and a lot of beer.

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PS Rob, don't let the head swell two much

Hmm ... I thought I remembered saying I was willing to pay for what's needed to prep the carb. I just don't see the point in paying for a rebuilt carb, when I already have one. I also don't see where name calling is needed ... if I knew there were 17 year old kids like you on this forum I would have gone elsewhere (like maybe the street racer fourms where we can bag on each others neon lights). Besides, you obviously doubt your own skills, but I feel more than comfortable prepping/rejetting a carb. Thanks.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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Hmm ... I thought I remembered saying I was willing to pay for what's needed to prep the carb. I just don't see the point in paying for a rebuilt carb, when I already have one. I also don't see where name calling is needed ... if I knew there were 17 year old kids like you on this forum I would have gone elsewhere (like maybe the street racer fourms where we can bag on each others neon lights). Besides, you obviously doubt your own skills, but I feel more than comfortable prepping/rejetting a carb. Thanks.
Kenn-Chan has been around rotaries many years so why the cheap crack about him being a 17 year old kid, he has one of the best first gens produced.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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If you run a draw-through turbo setup, you don't need to boost prep the carb. I am looking at doing a draw-through once I get my car running better.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kenn_chan
First both of you chuckelheads need to realize that Robert does this for a living, he is not being rude, or anything like that, he is just stating the facts you want his service, then pay him, otherwise quit whining.
well if you re-read my post I said id buy a "prep-kit", If something were to go wrong then id be less pissed if I did it other than some guy miles away that fucked up my carb. Besides I know I can prep the carb, I just need to know what needs to be done. Yes he is being rude, I thought the reason for an rx-7 club was to share info on how to make your car fast, better looking, and to bagon other peoples neons. NOT to hold out info on turbo preping the stock carb so you can make you money. Im not looking to make 680hp or any huge numbers off the turbo so I dont see why id pay a guy 100+ to prep my carb. Im sure webbers, holleys, and other performance carbs are easy to prep but were not asking about them so that info was useless. Im sure ill have trouble preping my carb just like all the other did when they were doing thier first one. If my motor blows oh well, there not to much $$.


I just think coming here to hold info to make yourself money is lame, even if you do own a shop.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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well if you re-read my post I said id buy a "prep-kit", If something were to go wrong then id be less pissed if I did it other than some guy miles away that fucked up my carb. Besides I know I can prep the carb, I just need to know what needs to be done. Yes he is being rude, I thought the reason for an rx-7 club was to share info on how to make your car fast, better looking, and to bagon other peoples neons. NOT to hold out info on turbo preping the stock carb so you can make you money. Im not looking to make 680hp or any huge numbers off the turbo so I dont see why id pay a guy 100+ to prep my carb. Im sure webbers, holleys, and other performance carbs are easy to prep but were not asking about them so that info was useless. Im sure ill have trouble preping my carb just like all the other did when they were doing thier first one. If my motor blows oh well, there not to much $$.


I just think coming here to hold info to make yourself money is lame, even if you do own a shop.

Exactly, if 680whp's shop boost preps carbs, why not sell a prep kit? You'll probably make more money just from the retail mark-up than you would have on your labor charge, and you'll save yourself the hassle. Work smarter, not harder. So, how much for the boost prep kit?
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Randokuky
Yes he is being rude, I thought the reason for an rx-7 club was to share info on how to make your car fast, better looking, and to bagon other peoples neons. NOT to hold out info on turbo preping the stock carb so you can make you money. Im not looking to make 680hp or any huge numbers off the turbo so I dont see why id pay a guy 100+ to prep my carb. Im sure webbers, holleys, and other performance carbs are easy to prep but were not asking about them so that info was useless. Im sure ill have trouble preping my carb just like all the other did when they were doing thier first one. If my motor blows oh well, there not to much $$. I just think coming here to hold info to make yourself money is lame, even if you do own a shop.
I disagree. Rotaryshack is a commercial operation. As such it needs to be profitable. Robert is a member of the forum and often gives free advice, in fact if you go to the RS website there is a free technical advice service. To expect him to pass on trade knowledge for items when he is operating a commercial business is unrealistic. I have never done business with Rotaryshack because I live 12,000 miles away[at present far west of China] but Robert has given me sound advice over the years.

There are members whose hobby is rotaries, if it.s a job for anyone with mechanical skills then I am certain they will have the time to write up a three page explanation of how to do it. Perhaps if you end up doing it yourself, I suggest writing up your experience and get it posted as a sticky so other members can gain from your experience.

Writing up is a difficult task, I could write up a brain operation in three pages or three volumes depending on the existing knowledge of the reader. If you miss out a step because you think it's obvious, then they can be a disaster if the point is not in the person's knowledge and they miss out a critical step.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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perhaps brain surgery would fix the fact that 2 members here can comprehend the fact that one needs to make a living. But as you can see from the begining of the postings this guy randokuky was taking cheap shots at robert not knowing him first as a person second as a business man, i been dealing with robert for a while and he will give plenty of free advice but like others foremention why would you give away your trade that seems stupid to me. yes this forum was created to give free advice between members but as you can see they also allowed merchants to come here and sell their products so take it for what it is. maybe if you ask him he will sell you the items needed to do the preping but why would he? once again we pay for our ignorance and so will you. deal with it.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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"why would you give away your trade that seems stupid to me."

If this is true why would he give any advise? Why did the person who wrote the rats nest removal do it? I mean youd have to know ALOT about the rats nets and what makes it work befor you just go off and remove it. Stearling another guy who mods the nikki and charges for it posted a mod THAT HE DOES TO THE CARB HE MAKES, that helps people with the 2ndarys mod. saying he shouldnt post it cause he makes a few bucks (witch is far from a "living") is retarded. So I assume it was that persons "trade" and he was cool enuff to post the how-to. Not just say "hey I know how to do it, ill do it for you for $100+" compairing a brain operation to preping your car is pretty useless, I only want to prep my carb myself because I know I can. If you have never rebuild/worked on/been around carbs be4 then it sould be sent off and done for them selfs. I dont have to know people "as a person" when they force people into doing carp that they dont want. Come on have you even read what preping a Nikki for boost makes it run like? one word **** but it takes boost, now why the **** would I pay someone to make my carb run like ****?


And like I have said 100 times be4 if he ***** something up and it blows my motor, then what? I call him 1,000 miles away and say "hey you fucked my carb and blew my motor" Its not like hes going to agree and buy me another......Now how much for the boost kit?
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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A boost prep kit is not going to happen. Robert spent a lot of time and money figuring out how to make the nikki carb work with boost, and he is probably one of 2-3 people that can prep the nikki and actually have it work. I have been getting parts from Robert for a few years now and he has always given me a good deal and good parts. $100 is not a lot to spend for a carb that will work perfect with as much boost as you want to run. Either buy a carb from him or figure out how to prep them yourself.

I run a stock 12a with 13psi on one of Roberts nikki carbs, and I can tell you it doesn't run like **** if you know what your doing. My car runs great, good throttle responce, 160mph top speed(run out of gear, not power), and decent gas milage for how I drive it.

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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 02:14 AM
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^^ :cookie:

Ill save the 100 thanks.
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