12a Rebuild: Concern for front bearing plate condition
06-17-14, 09:37 PM
#1
12a Rebuild: Concern for front bearing plate condition
Continuation of my 12a rebuild.
Cleaning the front end components I noticed some nicking on the front bearing plate (image), and some concentric rings on one of the washers (if I have the terms correct).
Should the pieces be replaced?
Thanks always.
Cleaning the front end components I noticed some nicking on the front bearing plate (image), and some concentric rings on one of the washers (if I have the terms correct).
Should the pieces be replaced?
Thanks always.
06-18-14, 12:04 AM
#2
The missing metal is common on 82 and older engines due to their small "low volume" oil pumps measuring in at 12mm. I don't recall what year engine you have, but it's probably an 81-82, right? It's time for you to get some new thrust components and then learn how to set end play. Fun! Also be sure to get a good used or new so called "high volume" oil pump at 17mm. This came stock on all 83-85 12As, the GSL-SEs and several J-spec nitrided R5 12As and 13Bs.
Front Engine Parts, Counterweights, Pulleys
Edit: Ok, so you have an 84. Make sure your engine is an actual 1984!
Front Engine Parts, Counterweights, Pulleys
Edit: Ok, so you have an 84. Make sure your engine is an actual 1984!
06-18-14, 09:10 AM
#3
Jeff,
Thanks for the response.
Follow up questions.
1. Where would I measure the 12mm vs. 17mm on my existing oil pump?
2. I have the engine ID number, but I cannot find any useful reference to determine if it is an 83-85 or pre-83 12a. (It was an Atkins re-manufactured.) I did find one thread using the rotor markings F, R and N for 83-85's. I'll check tonight. Is there anything obvious on the exterior which would give me a clue?
Thanks for the response.
Follow up questions.
1. Where would I measure the 12mm vs. 17mm on my existing oil pump?
2. I have the engine ID number, but I cannot find any useful reference to determine if it is an 83-85 or pre-83 12a. (It was an Atkins re-manufactured.) I did find one thread using the rotor markings F, R and N for 83-85's. I'll check tonight. Is there anything obvious on the exterior which would give me a clue?
06-18-14, 03:30 PM
#4
Being an Atkins build, who knows what year parts they used.
Look for a T shaped heater core tube fitting on the rear iron. This lets you know at least the rear plate is an 83-85.
You already know about the F, R and N for 83-85 rotors.
The oil pump gear needs to come out so you can measure thickness. It just slides right out.
Look for a T shaped heater core tube fitting on the rear iron. This lets you know at least the rear plate is an 83-85.
You already know about the F, R and N for 83-85 rotors.
The oil pump gear needs to come out so you can measure thickness. It just slides right out.
06-18-14, 05:48 PM
#5
Thanks Jeff.
Attached image of rear iron, its 83-85.
On the rotors I did find a faint R, and with some imagination I can almost make out an F on the other. If there ever was an N I cannot find it.
The oil pump measures 17.5mm which is the Atkins "Competition" pump.
(Being totally new to this I take before/during/after pictures. At some point in the hopefully not too distant future, I'll be putting it all back together.)
Attached image of rear iron, its 83-85.
On the rotors I did find a faint R, and with some imagination I can almost make out an F on the other. If there ever was an N I cannot find it.
The oil pump measures 17.5mm which is the Atkins "Competition" pump.
(Being totally new to this I take before/during/after pictures. At some point in the hopefully not too distant future, I'll be putting it all back together.)
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