Tried out a clay bar
08-05-08, 01:39 AM
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Tried out a clay bar
I figured I would give it a shot. The paint is a little over a year old now and damn it shows some wear.
The windows turned out crazy good. I have never seen a window so clean before. I didnt scale any of those pictures though, Ill get to them if requested.
I used the Mothers Clay Bar kit from WalMart. It was like 15 bucks. Next time I think I will get Zaino.
On to the pics;
The windows turned out crazy good. I have never seen a window so clean before. I didnt scale any of those pictures though, Ill get to them if requested.
I used the Mothers Clay Bar kit from WalMart. It was like 15 bucks. Next time I think I will get Zaino.
On to the pics;
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08-05-08, 03:50 AM
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I picked that kit up over a year ago, but haven't gotten around to trying it out yet. I figure the paint on the 7 is probably too old, but maybe I'll give it a shot on the Bimmer...
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08-05-08, 06:58 AM
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if anyone has detailing questions dont hesitate to ask me. i owned a detailing business when i lived in japan.
the claybar is used with a lubricant. it can be as simple as some soapy water or a slick QD (quick detalier). the claybar removes contaminants off the top of your paint. you MUST wax or seal your paint after a claybar application.
1. wash your car with Dawn dish soap... this removes old wax and easy to remove grime (ony use dish soap when removing wax!! never use it to wash your car regularly!)
2. use your claybar. i use a bucket of really soapy water and use the clay like i would a sponge. do a small section at a time. rinse the area. continue until the entire car is done.
3. wash car again with dawn. i do this becuase sometimes the clay will leave small smudges on the paint
3. dry the car with 100% white cotton or MF towels. apply a paint cleaner/swirl remover by hand or with a buffer ( i use a porter cable 7224) polishing pad type depends on how many defects you have in your paint. buff the paint cleaner off the car
4. Apply Wax or sealer. Personally i use Zaino or Klasse. i prefer a sealer over a wax. it protects the paint better her in the south east and last longer. the shine in my opinion is much better than a carnuba wax. i have been using Zaino on my Lexus and mini cooper for the past year and im really happy with the results.
5. regular washings with a car shampoo followed by a quck detailer wipe down after each was will keep the waxes and sealers on your paint much longer.
didnt mean to hijack the thread but i love auto detailing. if anyone needs any advice or help shoot me a PM
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the claybar is used with a lubricant. it can be as simple as some soapy water or a slick QD (quick detalier). the claybar removes contaminants off the top of your paint. you MUST wax or seal your paint after a claybar application.
1. wash your car with Dawn dish soap... this removes old wax and easy to remove grime (ony use dish soap when removing wax!! never use it to wash your car regularly!)
2. use your claybar. i use a bucket of really soapy water and use the clay like i would a sponge. do a small section at a time. rinse the area. continue until the entire car is done.
3. wash car again with dawn. i do this becuase sometimes the clay will leave small smudges on the paint
3. dry the car with 100% white cotton or MF towels. apply a paint cleaner/swirl remover by hand or with a buffer ( i use a porter cable 7224) polishing pad type depends on how many defects you have in your paint. buff the paint cleaner off the car
4. Apply Wax or sealer. Personally i use Zaino or Klasse. i prefer a sealer over a wax. it protects the paint better her in the south east and last longer. the shine in my opinion is much better than a carnuba wax. i have been using Zaino on my Lexus and mini cooper for the past year and im really happy with the results.
5. regular washings with a car shampoo followed by a quck detailer wipe down after each was will keep the waxes and sealers on your paint much longer.
didnt mean to hijack the thread but i love auto detailing. if anyone needs any advice or help shoot me a PM
Trevor
08-05-08, 11:29 AM
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Thanks for the how-to jaidedeye! In addition there are several good how-to "use a clay bar" videos on YouTube.
Here's an interesting take on the reasons for using a clay bar to keep our 7's shiny! Including the plastic bag test for determining if its needed:
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Making the decision to use clay
In this article we will be discussing the practical applications of detailing clay bar. Today, over 90% of all factory finishes are clear coated, and thus, a need for detailing clay bar has risen. The clear coats, as beautiful as they are, can accumulate embedded contaminants. No amount of washing or polishing will remove these contaminants from your precious paint job, and once they are in, the only proven way to remove them is with detailing clay bars. A combination of the clay bar itself and a matching clay bar lubricant will ensure you that the job will go scratch-free.
What will clay remove?
A perfect driving record won’t save you form the numerous collisions your car makes every day with unavoidable airborne pollutants. These pollutants can be virtually anything, ranging from brake dust to industrial fallout and may contain damaging metal shavings. If these contaminants penetrate the clear coat, it is possible for them to oxidize and therefore create rust. Clay bars can prevent future corrosion by removing the harmful particles from your clear coat and help to restore its former glory.
Is it necessary to clay?
Because your vehicle can collect all manner of contaminants from just about anywhere, it is safe to say that a good claying is well due. Of course, different driving and storage conditions can affect the accumulation of these pollutants, but luckily, there is a simple way to test the validity of the problem. To test, begin by washing and drying your vehicle as normal. When you are finished, cover your hand with a plastic sandwich bag and gently rub the paint with your index and middle finger. If the paint feels like sandpaper, then you have a real problem on your hands. The gritty spots you can feel through the plastic are the tell tale signs of contamination, and can be treated with products such as Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay bar or DP Universal Detailing Clay. Using a clay lubricant while applying these products is well advised, as you would not want to scratch the paint while using the clay bar.
How to use clay:
You can expect to find clay bars in either pre-cut 4oz. bars, or the larger 8 oz. bars, which you should cut down into halves for future use. To store your unused clay bars, moisten them with lubricant and place them in the provided storage case to prevent them from drying out prematurely. Properly stored clay bars will last about two years when used on a single vehicle. However, two ounces of clay is enough repair three or four vehicles once. The average vehicle usually requires one or two applications of detailing clay every year.
Here are some instructions for claying your vehicle:
1. First, wash and dry your vehicle as normal. Prepare ample time beforehand, because you will need to wax soon after you finish using the clay. Choose a day where you have plenty of time and energy.
2. Spray the clay lubricant on an area no larger than two square feet. This will help you to make your job more precise, and will also save you from wasting the clay lubricant by spraying more area than you can get to before it dries.
3. Lightly rub the clay back and forth across the lubricated area, but be prepared for the clay to give resistance. As the resistance gradually lessens, you can be assured that the grit is being removed. When the drag disappears altogether, it’s time to move on to another area. The clay might end up losing its shape after repeated uses. To avoid this, use an optimal pressure level when applying or simply look into using the Wolfgang Polishing Pal with the specialized clay disc insert. This tool will help keep your pressure even, and allow you to use the clay more effectively.
4. Before moving on, you’ll want to remove any clay residue left behind. To do this, wipe away the clay lubricant with a Cobra Microfiber Detailing Cloth. After it is wiped down, glide your fingers across the restored, liquid smoothness. If it doesn’t meet your approval knead the clay to reveal a clean side and repeat the earlier mentioned operation. If you are dealing with heavily oxidized paint, using clay first might not be the best idea. Instead, switch to a quality polish such as Klasse All-In-One and then remove the oxidation with your preferred orbital buffer. Following up with the clay soon afterward will bring out the greatest results.
5. Doing the entire car in sections is the most effective way to use your products. Applying the lubricant to your entire vehicle and then rushing across it with the clay will result in a waste of time, product and money. Take your time and work from one area to the next, applying the lubricant as you go.
6. When you are finished with the clay, it is advised that you immediately store it before doing anything else. This will optimize the products lifespan. Remember, to properly store the clay, first spray it with the lubricant and then store it in an airtight container. It should not be stored in extreme temperatures nor should it be stored in a container housing other mixed products.
7. To protect all of your achievements from being blemished, top off the job with a quality wax or sealant such as P21S Concours Carnauba Wax or Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant. Following these important steps will safeguard your coat and prevent any future corrosion from occurring.
Here's an interesting take on the reasons for using a clay bar to keep our 7's shiny! Including the plastic bag test for determining if its needed:
_____
Making the decision to use clay
In this article we will be discussing the practical applications of detailing clay bar. Today, over 90% of all factory finishes are clear coated, and thus, a need for detailing clay bar has risen. The clear coats, as beautiful as they are, can accumulate embedded contaminants. No amount of washing or polishing will remove these contaminants from your precious paint job, and once they are in, the only proven way to remove them is with detailing clay bars. A combination of the clay bar itself and a matching clay bar lubricant will ensure you that the job will go scratch-free.
What will clay remove?
A perfect driving record won’t save you form the numerous collisions your car makes every day with unavoidable airborne pollutants. These pollutants can be virtually anything, ranging from brake dust to industrial fallout and may contain damaging metal shavings. If these contaminants penetrate the clear coat, it is possible for them to oxidize and therefore create rust. Clay bars can prevent future corrosion by removing the harmful particles from your clear coat and help to restore its former glory.
Is it necessary to clay?
Because your vehicle can collect all manner of contaminants from just about anywhere, it is safe to say that a good claying is well due. Of course, different driving and storage conditions can affect the accumulation of these pollutants, but luckily, there is a simple way to test the validity of the problem. To test, begin by washing and drying your vehicle as normal. When you are finished, cover your hand with a plastic sandwich bag and gently rub the paint with your index and middle finger. If the paint feels like sandpaper, then you have a real problem on your hands. The gritty spots you can feel through the plastic are the tell tale signs of contamination, and can be treated with products such as Pinnacle Ultra Poly Clay bar or DP Universal Detailing Clay. Using a clay lubricant while applying these products is well advised, as you would not want to scratch the paint while using the clay bar.
How to use clay:
You can expect to find clay bars in either pre-cut 4oz. bars, or the larger 8 oz. bars, which you should cut down into halves for future use. To store your unused clay bars, moisten them with lubricant and place them in the provided storage case to prevent them from drying out prematurely. Properly stored clay bars will last about two years when used on a single vehicle. However, two ounces of clay is enough repair three or four vehicles once. The average vehicle usually requires one or two applications of detailing clay every year.
Here are some instructions for claying your vehicle:
1. First, wash and dry your vehicle as normal. Prepare ample time beforehand, because you will need to wax soon after you finish using the clay. Choose a day where you have plenty of time and energy.
2. Spray the clay lubricant on an area no larger than two square feet. This will help you to make your job more precise, and will also save you from wasting the clay lubricant by spraying more area than you can get to before it dries.
3. Lightly rub the clay back and forth across the lubricated area, but be prepared for the clay to give resistance. As the resistance gradually lessens, you can be assured that the grit is being removed. When the drag disappears altogether, it’s time to move on to another area. The clay might end up losing its shape after repeated uses. To avoid this, use an optimal pressure level when applying or simply look into using the Wolfgang Polishing Pal with the specialized clay disc insert. This tool will help keep your pressure even, and allow you to use the clay more effectively.
4. Before moving on, you’ll want to remove any clay residue left behind. To do this, wipe away the clay lubricant with a Cobra Microfiber Detailing Cloth. After it is wiped down, glide your fingers across the restored, liquid smoothness. If it doesn’t meet your approval knead the clay to reveal a clean side and repeat the earlier mentioned operation. If you are dealing with heavily oxidized paint, using clay first might not be the best idea. Instead, switch to a quality polish such as Klasse All-In-One and then remove the oxidation with your preferred orbital buffer. Following up with the clay soon afterward will bring out the greatest results.
5. Doing the entire car in sections is the most effective way to use your products. Applying the lubricant to your entire vehicle and then rushing across it with the clay will result in a waste of time, product and money. Take your time and work from one area to the next, applying the lubricant as you go.
6. When you are finished with the clay, it is advised that you immediately store it before doing anything else. This will optimize the products lifespan. Remember, to properly store the clay, first spray it with the lubricant and then store it in an airtight container. It should not be stored in extreme temperatures nor should it be stored in a container housing other mixed products.
7. To protect all of your achievements from being blemished, top off the job with a quality wax or sealant such as P21S Concours Carnauba Wax or Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant. Following these important steps will safeguard your coat and prevent any future corrosion from occurring.
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I should have noted that I wasn't (am not) pushing any brand of cleaner / supplies, just providing some further insight into clay bar benefits and processes to those new to this detailing tool.
I should have noted that I wasn't (am not) pushing any brand of cleaner / supplies, just providing some further insight into clay bar benefits and processes to those new to this detailing tool.
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with a little wet sanding and machine polishing you can make old paint look almost new again. it takes practice but its worth it
08-07-08, 12:40 AM
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Thanks for the compliments!
There are only a few more things I would like to do before I decide if I want to sell it or not.
New 15" Konig Rewinds, Drop the motor to paint the engine bay. Might as well give it a small rebuild, tint, touch up on the paint and thats about it. Oh yeah, the exhaust too.
There are only a few more things I would like to do before I decide if I want to sell it or not.
New 15" Konig Rewinds, Drop the motor to paint the engine bay. Might as well give it a small rebuild, tint, touch up on the paint and thats about it. Oh yeah, the exhaust too.
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