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03-29-11, 07:23 PM
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white non sunroof SA with plaid interior = me want!
i didn't check the vin, but hood prop on the RH side but 2 mirrors, makes it fairly early too
i didn't check the vin, but hood prop on the RH side but 2 mirrors, makes it fairly early too
03-30-11, 07:47 AM
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I like these early build cars. I'd guess its been painted. The passanger mirror must be a later add on. It even looks a little odd in shape, especially the stem. Noticed the early center vents, single control "always on" Fan/AC switch and a couple of wierd shaped ****'s for the heater/vent controlls. Are these ***** correct for these 50-series VIN builds? I've never saw these before.
03-30-11, 08:28 AM
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I noticed the black arm rest and black ashtray. Did early VINs use black for these?
I also question the mileage, probably more like 149000, not 49000 as shown.
The rear carpet is a poor replacement and looks pretty new. Like Stu says, a great
parts car at the right price. Definitely some nice 79 bits and pieces on it.
I also question the mileage, probably more like 149000, not 49000 as shown.
The rear carpet is a poor replacement and looks pretty new. Like Stu says, a great
parts car at the right price. Definitely some nice 79 bits and pieces on it.
03-30-11, 10:17 AM
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Pinstriping is not correct, and does not match left to right; there's no pinstriping on the right side front fender or door.
I'd guess right side fender and door have been replaced, so it was wrecked at one time. Would explain both the right-side mirror and the trim falling off on the right door.
Shift surround has been replaced with one from an 80, looks like: 79's had black without the chrome ring, not silver-painted with chrome ring. The radio surround is the original black.
The two-tone dash parts are puzzling; dark-red dash top, lighter lower console. Seems to carry onto the doors, too. haven't seen that before but actually looks nice.
Worth WAY more than asking price for parts alone. Wish I was closer to there.
I'd guess right side fender and door have been replaced, so it was wrecked at one time. Would explain both the right-side mirror and the trim falling off on the right door.
Shift surround has been replaced with one from an 80, looks like: 79's had black without the chrome ring, not silver-painted with chrome ring. The radio surround is the original black.
The two-tone dash parts are puzzling; dark-red dash top, lighter lower console. Seems to carry onto the doors, too. haven't seen that before but actually looks nice.
Worth WAY more than asking price for parts alone. Wish I was closer to there.
03-30-11, 10:23 AM
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The two tone dash and door bits are correct. Not sure about the door pull handles.
Good eye on the pinstripe, I missed that one and it verifies that its probably been
resprayed as well.
Also noticed the heater hose for the hot start assist is not connected to the air
cleaner. The more I look at this the more I think its an old ***** in a new dress,
if you get my meaning here. Or as they say, prettying up the pig for sale.
I would give more than 1500 for it and it better run.
Good eye on the pinstripe, I missed that one and it verifies that its probably been
resprayed as well.
Also noticed the heater hose for the hot start assist is not connected to the air
cleaner. The more I look at this the more I think its an old ***** in a new dress,
if you get my meaning here. Or as they say, prettying up the pig for sale.
I would give more than 1500 for it and it better run.
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03-30-11, 12:00 PM
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the ad says it does run. i'm confused though, why is this a parts car, it looks really nice, and it runs .
and just to clarify the mirror and the hood prop didn't move at the same time, they happen close to each other, but there were some cars with one (which one happens first i don't recall)
although in the ***** dept, is that a power mirror on the RH side?
i'd still, well i'd drop the P port in there, and um have something even more retarded than i do now!
and just to clarify the mirror and the hood prop didn't move at the same time, they happen close to each other, but there were some cars with one (which one happens first i don't recall)
although in the ***** dept, is that a power mirror on the RH side?
i'd still, well i'd drop the P port in there, and um have something even more retarded than i do now!
03-30-11, 12:36 PM
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The interior looks all correct to me, black ash tray and all, except for the shift surround pannel that DD pointed out. I believe the arm rests are the upper dash burgandy too. The lighting and possibile fading make it appear black. That burgandy/burnt orange combo is (relatively) common on these early cars. I believe one of these cars (copper exterior) is a regular with Ray and the group in Altanta.
They also had a brown/biege two tone dash-door combo and a white/black/burgandy plad seat fabric that I've only ever saw with an all black interior. Of course, they also had color and equipment options available in the european & asian markets that never officially made it over here. I did some looking at other pictures and those heater/vent **** appear on multiple vehicles of this vintage. I guess I just never noticed before. Some pics of other cars. Each is a different vehicle.
They also had a brown/biege two tone dash-door combo and a white/black/burgandy plad seat fabric that I've only ever saw with an all black interior. Of course, they also had color and equipment options available in the european & asian markets that never officially made it over here. I did some looking at other pictures and those heater/vent **** appear on multiple vehicles of this vintage. I guess I just never noticed before. Some pics of other cars. Each is a different vehicle.
03-30-11, 12:41 PM
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The early SAs had black ash tray inserts.
Passenger side mirrors were added very early. Prop rod side change came much later. (My SA SA530846 build date late 1978 has passenger side prop and mirror and 2 tone brown interior)
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03-30-11, 01:03 PM
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Does your passanger hood prop stow in the fender? Earlier cars had right side rods which hinged and stowed in the hood itself. Are your seats vinyl? What about the exterior, yellow?
03-30-11, 06:29 PM
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03-30-11, 06:40 PM
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Are you the original owner? Many of these cars got an additional mirror added later after they appeared on the showroom cars, which I believe happened in early 79. Your car (SA22C530846) should have been built in Nov-Dec 78.
Does your passanger hood prop stow in the fender? Earlier cars had right side rods which hinged and stowed in the hood itself. Are your seats vinyl? What about the exterior, yellow?
Does your passanger hood prop stow in the fender? Earlier cars had right side rods which hinged and stowed in the hood itself. Are your seats vinyl? What about the exterior, yellow?
03-30-11, 11:35 PM
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parts car!???!?! with a 508xxx vin .... tough crowd lol ... parts car ... thats it !!! I'll never sell my 504xxx you guys would dismantle it ;( lol
now those black plaid seats in Banzai's post I'd nearly give a teste for
right side prop rod, yes yes yes even had the speaker opening over the glove box and dash looked good .... man if I could only stomach red interiors .... sigh
now those black plaid seats in Banzai's post I'd nearly give a teste for
right side prop rod, yes yes yes even had the speaker opening over the glove box and dash looked good .... man if I could only stomach red interiors .... sigh
03-31-11, 12:01 AM
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That site is crazy!! you would pay more in fee's then you would for the poor car..its like $150.00 to register $400.00 sec. deposit and online bidding fees
03-31-11, 07:23 AM
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I am the original owner. The prop stows on the hood. My seats are vinyl, and my color is spark yellow, just like the picture of the yellow SA above. My car was an S model, so that I did not have the map pockets on the door, the console, the rear sway bar, body side moldings, nor the cassette deck and had steel wheels. I was friends with the mechanic at the dealership where I bought the car and he said the only change the dealer made was to install the air conditioning.
And BTW, congrats on your original owner status. Nice to make your acquaintence. We're getting fewer in numbers every year.
03-31-11, 07:36 AM
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[QUOTE=now those black plaid seats in Banzai's post I'd nearly give a teste for right side prop rod, yes yes yes even had the speaker opening over the glove box and dash looked good .... man if I could only stomach red interiors .... sigh[/QUOTE]
13X, Same car, different shot. Don't know anything about the car, it looks like it may have been Yellow originally and not a NA car. This one has(d) a LHD speaker dash to boot!
13X, Same car, different shot. Don't know anything about the car, it looks like it may have been Yellow originally and not a NA car. This one has(d) a LHD speaker dash to boot!
04-05-11, 03:18 PM
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Surprised Stu didn't chime in on this but he still must be frozen....
On the early cars like the one RXDAD has the 530,xxx this is about the time when all the changes were being made from the the 1/2 year 78s to the more often seen 79s Even though the parts manuals will say this item from serial number x and up that isn't always the case right in this range. You can have some with passenger mirror and early dash/door panels etc then you can have a later one with the new dash and no mirror. I think alot of it had to do with when they ran out of certain parts specifically the interior stuff in certain colors i have seen the red brown early interiors in later cars with all the 79 stuff but that was not a popular color so they lots of parts, the black interiors were popular so that stuff ran out faster. It gets really crazy trying to validate some of these cars.
As for the black plaid sets that someone was will give up the jewels for...... you can send them the jewels that is to me..... just kidding I won't give up my NOS black plaid seats... Only very early cars saw the black plaid seats I have never seen them in a US car that was built in 5/78 or later
the one that was in the auction here should have been a 4 or 5/78 car it was too far down 508 xxx range to be earlier.
As for if the passenger mirror is original that is not to hard to check just unscrew it if it is held on by self tapping or pointed sheetmetal type screws it was added not original if it uses the fine threaded factory screw with nut welded in the door either someone took alot of time to do it right... the door was replaced or it is original.
Hope this clears up some of the questions.
BTW I have a few more oddities for you all. My 33 car has extremely odd inner door handles they look like they are from a glc or something other than rx7 but they are black plastic and they lock pulls are similar to Rx7 but different. the 88 car has the same lock pulls but has the correct inner door handles.
04-05-11, 03:47 PM
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On the early cars like the one RXDAD has the 530,xxx this is about the time when all the changes were being made from the the 1/2 year 78s to the more often seen 79s Even though the parts manuals will say this item from serial number x and up that isn't always the case right in this range.
my Triumph TR3 is like this actually, its vin is right after the tach and speedo switched places, but mine is "wrong" but also appears to be untouched.
i could see upolstery phasing out at different times for different colors that wasn't obvious but makes sense!
04-05-11, 09:20 PM
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Banzai, ok thread jacking..... I bought the car for parts..... JK no I haven't been on in awhile but I can give some info on some of the questions.
Surprised Stu didn't chime in on this but he still must be frozen....
On the early cars like the one RXDAD has the 530,xxx this is about the time when all the changes were being made from the the 1/2 year 78s to the more often seen 79s Even though the parts manuals will say this item from serial number x and up that isn't always the case right in this range. You can have some with passenger mirror and early dash/door panels etc then you can have a later one with the new dash and no mirror. I think alot of it had to do with when they ran out of certain parts specifically the interior stuff in certain colors i have seen the red brown early interiors in later cars with all the 79 stuff but that was not a popular color so they lots of parts, the black interiors were popular so that stuff ran out faster. It gets really crazy trying to validate some of these cars.
As for the black plaid sets that someone was will give up the jewels for...... you can send them the jewels that is to me..... just kidding I won't give up my NOS black plaid seats... Only very early cars saw the black plaid seats I have never seen them in a US car that was built in 5/78 or later
the one that was in the auction here should have been a 4 or 5/78 car it was too far down 508 xxx range to be earlier.
As for if the passenger mirror is original that is not to hard to check just unscrew it if it is held on by self tapping or pointed sheetmetal type screws it was added not original if it uses the fine threaded factory screw with nut welded in the door either someone took alot of time to do it right... the door was replaced or it is original.
Hope this clears up some of the questions.
BTW I have a few more oddities for you all. My 33 car has extremely odd inner door handles they look like they are from a glc or something other than rx7 but they are black plastic and they lock pulls are similar to Rx7 but different. the 88 car has the same lock pulls but has the correct inner door handles.
Surprised Stu didn't chime in on this but he still must be frozen....
On the early cars like the one RXDAD has the 530,xxx this is about the time when all the changes were being made from the the 1/2 year 78s to the more often seen 79s Even though the parts manuals will say this item from serial number x and up that isn't always the case right in this range. You can have some with passenger mirror and early dash/door panels etc then you can have a later one with the new dash and no mirror. I think alot of it had to do with when they ran out of certain parts specifically the interior stuff in certain colors i have seen the red brown early interiors in later cars with all the 79 stuff but that was not a popular color so they lots of parts, the black interiors were popular so that stuff ran out faster. It gets really crazy trying to validate some of these cars.
As for the black plaid sets that someone was will give up the jewels for...... you can send them the jewels that is to me..... just kidding I won't give up my NOS black plaid seats... Only very early cars saw the black plaid seats I have never seen them in a US car that was built in 5/78 or later
the one that was in the auction here should have been a 4 or 5/78 car it was too far down 508 xxx range to be earlier.
As for if the passenger mirror is original that is not to hard to check just unscrew it if it is held on by self tapping or pointed sheetmetal type screws it was added not original if it uses the fine threaded factory screw with nut welded in the door either someone took alot of time to do it right... the door was replaced or it is original.
Hope this clears up some of the questions.
BTW I have a few more oddities for you all. My 33 car has extremely odd inner door handles they look like they are from a glc or something other than rx7 but they are black plastic and they lock pulls are similar to Rx7 but different. the 88 car has the same lock pulls but has the correct inner door handles.
But but but my car is a 4/78 choop can vouch vin SA22C-504xxx those are the seats under my covers ... oh damn I have 4 kids and the grandbaby ... 2 testes!!!! lol
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04-13-11, 11:40 PM
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I understood, I just have to find myself a set as they appear to be the original for my car ... frankly I dig em but father time has gotten the best of them
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