Got my first FB
06-16-09, 12:28 AM
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Got my first FB
So I got my first FB today from a local rx7club member.
The paints stunning for being original, some imperfections but you can't notice them, the black trim can use a bit of a touch (exterior) which I did on my fc and will do asap, like wiper blades and such.
The headlights need alittle work (Any suggestions?) I can only see maybe 20 feet or so.. on my fc I could see pretty damn far
Shes a beauty, 85-GSL. The 12a smokes after a long drive tons of blue smoke from the engine bay at stops sometimes, it's on the exhaust side and all over the crossmember? OMP I was told, any ideas?
The car has 90k but any suggestion on getting the tranny more happy? Sometimes you gotta try twice to get it in gear, I'm new to manual but sometimes its hard 1st n such coming to a stop or downshifting, no idea but once it's going 1st 2nd 3rd it's fine, theres also a clunk sometimes.
Very very fun car, glad to be a 1st gen owner
can't wait to get modifying, the exterior will stay stock though 
Any suggestions for brakes it has discs all around, exhaust is fine very quiet and sporty it has the stock ignition, any suggestions on upgrading that, I hear about that a lot, basically I want to get the car a little more up to par as I wait for my next check =)
The paints stunning for being original, some imperfections but you can't notice them, the black trim can use a bit of a touch (exterior) which I did on my fc and will do asap, like wiper blades and such.
The headlights need alittle work (Any suggestions?) I can only see maybe 20 feet or so.. on my fc I could see pretty damn far
Shes a beauty, 85-GSL. The 12a smokes after a long drive tons of blue smoke from the engine bay at stops sometimes, it's on the exhaust side and all over the crossmember? OMP I was told, any ideas?
The car has 90k but any suggestion on getting the tranny more happy? Sometimes you gotta try twice to get it in gear, I'm new to manual but sometimes its hard 1st n such coming to a stop or downshifting, no idea but once it's going 1st 2nd 3rd it's fine, theres also a clunk sometimes.
Very very fun car, glad to be a 1st gen owner
can't wait to get modifying, the exterior will stay stock though Any suggestions for brakes it has discs all around, exhaust is fine very quiet and sporty it has the stock ignition, any suggestions on upgrading that, I hear about that a lot, basically I want to get the car a little more up to par as I wait for my next check =)
06-16-09, 12:47 AM
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as far as the smoke is concerned, it could be one of a few things. first, as mentioned, omp leak. it could also be a faulty omp line or lines as well asa faulty front cover gasket. i had to adjust the headlights up a bit in my 80 LS when i first got it. the lights pointed straight down at the ground. i just adjusted the lights to my liking and i've been happy wit the adjustment for six years.
befoe you consider any modifications, please make sure you fully service the vehicle. make sure nothing is leaking or low, fresh tune up, fresh diff and trans oil, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fresh oil and filter, coolant flush, belts and hoses, good clean brakes, new fuel and air filters..you get the idea. got any more pics of the car to share. looks great in sunrise red!
befoe you consider any modifications, please make sure you fully service the vehicle. make sure nothing is leaking or low, fresh tune up, fresh diff and trans oil, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fresh oil and filter, coolant flush, belts and hoses, good clean brakes, new fuel and air filters..you get the idea. got any more pics of the car to share. looks great in sunrise red!
06-16-09, 01:04 AM
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RB Exhaust or somethin, sounds good cant really hear it much idling.
The car sometimes idles really low, are K&N filters for the stock carb hat(?) worth it and running a duct to the rad area? It gets hot in that little engine bay
. I'd also like to get a new rad, is there a possible way to replace the area infront of the rad the black thing it mounts to? Rad + new one of those + hoses & a E-Fan would be great.
Getting a GOOD battery tomorrow and going to check the alternator and might get a higher output one, after 15 mins of music or maybe it was 30 min but still it was running at like 6v while cranking :X almost didn't start.
Feels like it needs shocks, if I go over a speed bump or bump in the road it dips quite a bit, or would that be springs? Dunno it feels great till its a drop in the road, or maybe it's just me getting used to the difference from a FC
Now I just gotta find a good seat position or are clutches adjustable? Gotta push down to the floor sometimes or I've stalled it just waiting to back up out of my sloping driveway :| sloping down, maybe my foot moved a inch, I never drove a stick car but the lil 90s truck I did the clutch maybe went down 2-3inch and you could shift
My first stick shift car too man was rush hour traffic bumper to bumper a blast I need to get better at taking off >_< 
Oh yeah it's got some noises, I'm not good at manuals yet but it's like a humming/rawrawraw noise, I'll have to diagnose it later can't really describe it yet, gotta register and insure the car before I can screw around and drive it (thats for tmrw)
(Pics taken from SinisterSavannah's collection, thx for the car man was taken care of good!
The car sometimes idles really low, are K&N filters for the stock carb hat(?) worth it and running a duct to the rad area? It gets hot in that little engine bay
. I'd also like to get a new rad, is there a possible way to replace the area infront of the rad the black thing it mounts to? Rad + new one of those + hoses & a E-Fan would be great.Getting a GOOD battery tomorrow and going to check the alternator and might get a higher output one, after 15 mins of music or maybe it was 30 min but still it was running at like 6v while cranking :X almost didn't start.
Feels like it needs shocks, if I go over a speed bump or bump in the road it dips quite a bit, or would that be springs? Dunno it feels great till its a drop in the road, or maybe it's just me getting used to the difference from a FC
Now I just gotta find a good seat position or are clutches adjustable? Gotta push down to the floor sometimes or I've stalled it just waiting to back up out of my sloping driveway :| sloping down, maybe my foot moved a inch, I never drove a stick car but the lil 90s truck I did the clutch maybe went down 2-3inch and you could shift
My first stick shift car too
man was rush hour traffic bumper to bumper a blast I need to get better at taking off >_< Oh yeah it's got some noises, I'm not good at manuals yet but it's like a humming/rawrawraw noise, I'll have to diagnose it later can't really describe it yet, gotta register and insure the car before I can screw around and drive it (thats for tmrw)
(Pics taken from SinisterSavannah's collection, thx for the car man was taken care of good!
06-16-09, 04:26 AM
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before you consider any modifications, please make sure you fully service the vehicle. make sure nothing is leaking or low, fresh tune up, fresh diff and trans oil, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, fresh oil and filter, coolant flush, belts and hoses, good clean brakes, new fuel and air filters..you get the idea. got any more pics of the car to share. looks great in sunrise red!
Lights:
Cibies will kick photons a mile down the road, no prob - see http://www.danielsternlighting.com/
DO get the $30 wire harness from http://www.blackdragonauto.com/ - hi-perf lighting punches a lot of amps thru the dinky wires in the headlight switch - the specialty harness in plug-and-play and comes with relays to take the load.
Oil-leak;
clean up are as best as you can, then start checking for leaks daily. Otherwise too hard to chase if eng comp all grungy. Only oil source near exhaust side is OMP or oil pan AFAIK
Tranny-
hard shifting? are you SURE fluid is topped up?? Many here switch to Redline or Amsoil synthetic for tranny and diff. Noted easier, improved shifting and quieter gearbox with this stuff.
Welcome and enjoy!
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06-16-09, 05:51 AM
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Yeah the car has a bag of paper work I'm going to go through tomorrow, I guess I'll take her to a tranny shop and get it checked.
He said its a heavy duty clutch or heavy clutch iono, I was reading if it's not stock maybe its one of thsoe ones that engage quicker? Doesn't slip at all and will pretty much engage perfectly
2k dropped in it'll jerk but just engage mostly so it's grabby.
Tis 4am, I'm going to head off to bed and tomorrow I'll start tearing into the car and probably get whatever fluids that need a change, changed. Oh anybody know how to take out the steering slop? it'll go about a inch or two before it turns, man is it a pita under 10mph to turn -_-
thx - I am enjoying, a full tune up, fix of anything needing it then reliability mods for a lightly boosted 12a will be done next month
mm mm mmmm
Oh edit - for 90k miles I doubt the tranny has any issues, the shifter dont viberate or anything besides which from I read is goood, maybe the diff/tranny need a fluid change :/
He said its a heavy duty clutch or heavy clutch iono, I was reading if it's not stock maybe its one of thsoe ones that engage quicker? Doesn't slip at all and will pretty much engage perfectly
2k dropped in it'll jerk but just engage mostly so it's grabby.
Tis 4am, I'm going to head off to bed and tomorrow I'll start tearing into the car and probably get whatever fluids that need a change, changed. Oh anybody know how to take out the steering slop? it'll go about a inch or two before it turns, man is it a pita under 10mph to turn -_-
thx - I am enjoying, a full tune up, fix of anything needing it then reliability mods for a lightly boosted 12a will be done next month
mm mm mmmm
Oh edit - for 90k miles I doubt the tranny has any issues, the shifter dont viberate or anything besides which from I read is goood, maybe the diff/tranny need a fluid change :/
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06-16-09, 01:11 PM
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I saw that one when it was for sale, very clean unmolested example, nice grab! (You did talk him down a bit from $3,300, right?)
I'd check all those fluids like you said, change anything that even looks old. Also now is a good time to be sure about rust, it doesn't look like you have a problem but I'd pull the rear storage compartments to check for moisture and corrosion and also take a good look at the undercarriage.
Brakes are the next priority, flush and bleed if the the fluid is dirty, check the pads and rotors to be sure everything is working right. Clutch slave too while you are at it.
The oil leak is pretty much standard on even a well kept GSL, I'd degrease the engine, accurately pin point the oil leak and fix it. Bonus: You'll have a nice clean engine bay!
I wouldn't worry about the steering and suspension for now, you will probably adjust and realize that feel is just part of what makes an FB an FB. The stock set up really is pretty good, even when original in a 25 year old 100,000 mile car. Drive it for awhile, you can always look into chassis upgrades later.
Is it power steering? If so make sure your PS pump is working; if not, the low speed resistance to turning is normal, just not familiar to people who haven't driven cars without PS. (If you don't want to fix and maintain the PS and like the idea of a 100 lb. weight loss, you can scrap the PS, that's what I did, along with the AC).
And once you realize you need to spend next to nothing to get that car in showroom condition again, I'd start to save for a full RB street exhaust system, it makes the car.
Very nice, more pics!
I'd check all those fluids like you said, change anything that even looks old. Also now is a good time to be sure about rust, it doesn't look like you have a problem but I'd pull the rear storage compartments to check for moisture and corrosion and also take a good look at the undercarriage.
Brakes are the next priority, flush and bleed if the the fluid is dirty, check the pads and rotors to be sure everything is working right. Clutch slave too while you are at it.
The oil leak is pretty much standard on even a well kept GSL, I'd degrease the engine, accurately pin point the oil leak and fix it. Bonus: You'll have a nice clean engine bay!
I wouldn't worry about the steering and suspension for now, you will probably adjust and realize that feel is just part of what makes an FB an FB. The stock set up really is pretty good, even when original in a 25 year old 100,000 mile car. Drive it for awhile, you can always look into chassis upgrades later.
Is it power steering? If so make sure your PS pump is working; if not, the low speed resistance to turning is normal, just not familiar to people who haven't driven cars without PS. (If you don't want to fix and maintain the PS and like the idea of a 100 lb. weight loss, you can scrap the PS, that's what I did, along with the AC).
And once you realize you need to spend next to nothing to get that car in showroom condition again, I'd start to save for a full RB street exhaust system, it makes the car.
Very nice, more pics!
06-16-09, 02:28 PM
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nice car! if it was mine i'd just detail the crap out of it and enjoy, like ray says these cars are fun stock
06-16-09, 11:14 PM
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finally you have yourself a first gen. i remember a while ago you posting about buying one. shes clean! take care of her and she'll definitely take care of you its such a blast to drive! welcome to the darkside and post up if you have any issues. maybe i'll see you at a meet one day
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Hey Chris, I'm glad to see you're enjoying the car. It was definitely a great source of pride for me, I'm sure you'll feel the same way.
Haha, I wouldn't worry too much about your clutch work, that will come in time. Just keep driving and become familiar with the car, smoothness will come.
If you're interested, this is the exact clutch that is on the car: (first one at top of page, the Bonez Street-Comp Clutch).
http://rx7.com/store/rx7/sadrivetrain_clutch.html
It's a pretty heavy duty clutch, very different from stock. I got it almost right when I got the car, because I didn't know how many mods I wanted to do, so I wanted something that could basically handle anything I threw at it. If you do turbo the 12A, you'll definitely be good to go on that front.
Any questions, just ask. Enjoy your car!
Haha, I wouldn't worry too much about your clutch work, that will come in time. Just keep driving and become familiar with the car, smoothness will come.
If you're interested, this is the exact clutch that is on the car: (first one at top of page, the Bonez Street-Comp Clutch).
http://rx7.com/store/rx7/sadrivetrain_clutch.html
It's a pretty heavy duty clutch, very different from stock. I got it almost right when I got the car, because I didn't know how many mods I wanted to do, so I wanted something that could basically handle anything I threw at it. If you do turbo the 12A, you'll definitely be good to go on that front.
Any questions, just ask. Enjoy your car!
06-18-09, 02:03 AM
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I saw that one when it was for sale, very clean unmolested example, nice grab! (You did talk him down a bit from $3,300, right?)
I'd check all those fluids like you said, change anything that even looks old. Also now is a good time to be sure about rust, it doesn't look like you have a problem but I'd pull the rear storage compartments to check for moisture and corrosion and also take a good look at the undercarriage.
Brakes are the next priority, flush and bleed if the the fluid is dirty, check the pads and rotors to be sure everything is working right. Clutch slave too while you are at it.
The oil leak is pretty much standard on even a well kept GSL, I'd degrease the engine, accurately pin point the oil leak and fix it. Bonus: You'll have a nice clean engine bay!
I wouldn't worry about the steering and suspension for now, you will probably adjust and realize that feel is just part of what makes an FB an FB. The stock set up really is pretty good, even when original in a 25 year old 100,000 mile car. Drive it for awhile, you can always look into chassis upgrades later.
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I'd check all those fluids like you said, change anything that even looks old. Also now is a good time to be sure about rust, it doesn't look like you have a problem but I'd pull the rear storage compartments to check for moisture and corrosion and also take a good look at the undercarriage.
Brakes are the next priority, flush and bleed if the the fluid is dirty, check the pads and rotors to be sure everything is working right. Clutch slave too while you are at it.
The oil leak is pretty much standard on even a well kept GSL, I'd degrease the engine, accurately pin point the oil leak and fix it. Bonus: You'll have a nice clean engine bay!
I wouldn't worry about the steering and suspension for now, you will probably adjust and realize that feel is just part of what makes an FB an FB. The stock set up really is pretty good, even when original in a 25 year old 100,000 mile car. Drive it for awhile, you can always look into chassis upgrades later.
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)added some premix and it's going great now even my friend was wondering, it would spin the tires much easier too oddly.
I want to take care of the main wiring too, get the radio wired directly in and the wipers, seems a lot of things don't got good power, also the alternator gots to go, any ideas on a upgrade? I was reading but I'm not sure what type of alternator it is or if that was the SA.
I just got it registered in my name, DMV lady gave me the tags without insuance I guess, but prior I went to allstate and my package isnt too bad compared to other people before my license was ran, she ran it
0 Tickets/Accidents
So I was able to go out and explore her, never goes past 1/4th mark on gauge (Hotter days too) I'm getting the clutch down, if I rev alittle and go at it just grabs and goes lol.So far I tried to clean the enginebay alittle because my hands would get covered just touching it. Then it started smoking oil more. Oddly my fb doesn't smoke any color, my fc at higher rpms would blow out alil oil, I had alittle more then a 1/4 tank when I added about 18oz of premix, alittle hire then what it said 100:1 for 6gal, then I added it all since the bottle was almost empty.
ahh those vac hoses looked brittle after I cleaned everything, a lotof connectors are brittle plastic now.
It's horrible when it stalls it needed some clutch fluid but I notice randomly maybe my foot goes a tad higher or if its kinda in gear but it'll stall then take like a min to start, sometimes just turns over and over starts and shuts off turns on again after (If I turn the keyt oo quick it makes a annoying metal sound and wont start lol.
so fun, where should it idle? I'm going to check that out tmrw, its near the bigger mark (on the series3) dash....but not the 1...
It also fluctuates alittle when idling.Man I've never herd a 12a that didn't backfire, fb's are cool once you learn to drive it. I can use very little throttle compared to my old fc and hit the roads speed in less then a min.
makes me feel like I'm going faster then everyone but cops never look at me :|
-Chris
06-18-09, 07:44 AM
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^thanks
Update, as I said to baw I was thinking of my first late night spin.
That drive was fun, I'm starting to get the handling of the FB down, my left wrist is killing me though LOL!
tight turns kinda like that black dragon or whatever trail, we got a bunch of smaller versions around here.
Didn't do anything stupid though, another thing thats hard is lighting them up when you have to maneuver a lot, I stayed in control when I first did it today sorta on accident but it's in a area you just gotta go!, this roads more of go faster then speed limit but on turns pay attention to the sign, in my fc I'd go X over on most turns (memorized some) so now I gotta learn the fb, a 25 corner could be 40 safe or 30.
I saw no animals, 1 person before I hit the road, and maybe 1 or 2 cars on the road, oh wait I think a truck and another vehicle went by later on when it was more in town.
Empty lol. I wonder what I should do now, I'm kinda sketched out that the front tires are kinda bald on the sides only, you can totally tell theres negative camber but would it be from soft rubber on hard turns? I can still turn pretty hard, I wonder what the g's are, the handling is much different then the fc though, I don't know if I want to push too hard with those tires :X
both are michellin tires, yet the rears don't have much wear at all.
Gonna get new brakes, maybe front tires and run seafoam through (I wonder if I should replace fuel filter, gotta check all the old papers) and maybe I'll do some other little things if they need it, gonna also check the shifter possibly.
I thinkt he suspension might be too woren out, I took a fast turn and as it tightened a bit the fronts slid to the bumps (theres pretty decent random lil dips left n right) the suspension bottems out a tad (exhaust hitting mostly on speed bumps, even those ones you can go 15 on it does it going 3 lol)
anyways I gotta long ways to go, daunting the tast of fixing up the engine bay ha ha, no idea what to do about that wiring, and the rats nest needs a rebuild.
One poster in here with a SA did a great job in redoing all the emissions/carb stuff, going to look over that thread tmrw and get inspired
Update, as I said to baw I was thinking of my first late night spin.
That drive was fun, I'm starting to get the handling of the FB down, my left wrist is killing me though LOL!
tight turns kinda like that black dragon or whatever trail, we got a bunch of smaller versions around here.
Didn't do anything stupid though, another thing thats hard is lighting them up when you have to maneuver a lot, I stayed in control when I first did it today sorta on accident but it's in a area you just gotta go!, this roads more of go faster then speed limit but on turns pay attention to the sign, in my fc I'd go X over on most turns (memorized some) so now I gotta learn the fb, a 25 corner could be 40 safe or 30.
I saw no animals, 1 person before I hit the road, and maybe 1 or 2 cars on the road, oh wait I think a truck and another vehicle went by later on when it was more in town.
Empty lol. I wonder what I should do now, I'm kinda sketched out that the front tires are kinda bald on the sides only, you can totally tell theres negative camber but would it be from soft rubber on hard turns? I can still turn pretty hard, I wonder what the g's are, the handling is much different then the fc though, I don't know if I want to push too hard with those tires :X
both are michellin tires, yet the rears don't have much wear at all.
Gonna get new brakes, maybe front tires and run seafoam through (I wonder if I should replace fuel filter, gotta check all the old papers) and maybe I'll do some other little things if they need it, gonna also check the shifter possibly.
I thinkt he suspension might be too woren out, I took a fast turn and as it tightened a bit the fronts slid to the bumps (theres pretty decent random lil dips left n right) the suspension bottems out a tad (exhaust hitting mostly on speed bumps, even those ones you can go 15 on it does it going 3 lol)
anyways I gotta long ways to go, daunting the tast of fixing up the engine bay ha ha, no idea what to do about that wiring, and the rats nest needs a rebuild.
One poster in here with a SA did a great job in redoing all the emissions/carb stuff, going to look over that thread tmrw and get inspired
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well i read your other thread and talking about brakes.. I abuse the crap out of my brakes and I can go just as deep as alot of better equipped cars.. the key to better brakes for these things are braided lines, good fluid and a good set of pads.. I run hawk blues. not the best for a daily driver but if you want brakes that don't fade asbad and realy grip they are great. vented rotors would be nice aswell, I'm stuck running stock style soild rotors so we tend to crack them from time to time. as for the rest I have to run the spec stuff but a huge thng i did change out was putting a sway bar out back and redoing all the bushings in the rear with good poly stuff and it was a huge diffrence, the car had a nastly turn in that would snap lose real quick now its a nice smooth turn in that lets me slide around and not ge worried.
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Super clean, saw this back for sale a little while ago. Glad you got another 7. You bought this car in Monterrey Right? Do you live around there?
If so look out for my friend, he drives a brown zenki s14 on RPF1's. He's a die hard rotor head (disregard the s14, its temporary) and lives on base in Monterrey.
If so look out for my friend, he drives a brown zenki s14 on RPF1's. He's a die hard rotor head (disregard the s14, its temporary) and lives on base in Monterrey.
06-30-09, 01:35 PM
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The car has 90k but any suggestion on getting the tranny more happy? Sometimes you gotta try twice to get it in gear, I'm new to manual but sometimes its hard 1st n such coming to a stop or downshifting, no idea but once it's going 1st 2nd 3rd it's fine, theres also a clunk sometimes.
06-30-09, 02:39 PM
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^fun huh
Now the shifting is smoother but I noticed that sometimes I put it in reverse but it doesnt reverse lol
The hell would casue that? Putting it in N, then to R again and it goes CLINK.
Hell I was wondering why does reverse clunk when the clutch is engaged fully? Sometiems it's a grinding kinda sound or like a hammer hitting metal DING, makes no sense as the car isnt moving and is just idling as I prepare to back up...
rxdrift7, I got the car in monterey I live closer to Santa Cruz.
My brakes do stop okay but I'm probably just used to other cars, our moosestang and my bros bmw stop on a dime, and just resting your foot on the brake pedal will stop you, on the fb I push it to the floor and watch the needle go from 60 to 20 in ages.
I'm betting its the lines and the front brakes are bad, on a hard left turn slowing down into a parking lot the rear slid out, then I noticed the rear always locks so the fronts are probably worn bad and the rear are ok.
Now the shifting is smoother but I noticed that sometimes I put it in reverse but it doesnt reverse lol
The hell would casue that? Putting it in N, then to R again and it goes CLINK.
Hell I was wondering why does reverse clunk when the clutch is engaged fully? Sometiems it's a grinding kinda sound or like a hammer hitting metal DING, makes no sense as the car isnt moving and is just idling as I prepare to back up...
rxdrift7, I got the car in monterey I live closer to Santa Cruz.
My brakes do stop okay but I'm probably just used to other cars, our moosestang and my bros bmw stop on a dime, and just resting your foot on the brake pedal will stop you, on the fb I push it to the floor and watch the needle go from 60 to 20 in ages.
I'm betting its the lines and the front brakes are bad, on a hard left turn slowing down into a parking lot the rear slid out, then I noticed the rear always locks so the fronts are probably worn bad and the rear are ok.
06-30-09, 02:45 PM
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On the lights; if you don't want to pop for expensive conversions just now, getting a pair of Sylvania halogen bulbs can help a lot, and they're cheap. Much whiter and brighter than the old yellow stock incandescents.
Enjoy with pride.
Watch out for the famous dreaded 1st-gen snap oversteer; it'll shock you the first time the rear decides to come up front and see what's going on, when you thought you were safely in the envelope.
It's quite predictable once you know where the breakpoint is, but finding it that first time can be real exciting.
Enjoy with pride.
Watch out for the famous dreaded 1st-gen snap oversteer; it'll shock you the first time the rear decides to come up front and see what's going on, when you thought you were safely in the envelope.
It's quite predictable once you know where the breakpoint is, but finding it that first time can be real exciting.
06-30-09, 02:50 PM
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On the lights; if you don't want to pop for expensive conversions just now, getting a pair of Sylvania halogen bulbs can help a lot, and they're cheap. Much whiter and brighter than the old yellow stock incandescents.
Enjoy with pride.
Watch out for the famous dreaded 1st-gen snap oversteer; it'll shock you the first time the rear decides to come up front and see what's going on, when you thought you were safely in the envelope.
It's quite predictable once you know where the breakpoint is, but finding it that first time can be real exciting.
Enjoy with pride.
Watch out for the famous dreaded 1st-gen snap oversteer; it'll shock you the first time the rear decides to come up front and see what's going on, when you thought you were safely in the envelope.
It's quite predictable once you know where the breakpoint is, but finding it that first time can be real exciting.
Ahh and your engine bays such a beauty man, I wish I had the ability to rebuild my carb and such like that, then again a daily driver torn apart sucks
I wanted to get that blackdragon stuff but they don't accept paypal and I'll never get another bank account so I'm screwed. I'll look into those lights, I had some of those on my fc but one burnt out quickly and the 2nd fallowed.
06-30-09, 04:04 PM
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Watch out for the famous dreaded 1st-gen snap oversteer; it'll shock you the first time the rear decides to come up front and see what's going on, when you thought you were safely in the envelope.
It's quite predictable once you know where the breakpoint is, but finding it that first time can be real exciting.
It's quite predictable once you know where the breakpoint is, but finding it that first time can be real exciting.
06-30-09, 04:10 PM
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Watch out for the famous dreaded 1st-gen snap oversteer; it'll shock you the first time the rear decides to come up front and see what's going on, when you thought you were safely in the envelope.
It's quite predictable once you know where the breakpoint is, but finding it that first time can be real exciting.
It's quite predictable once you know where the breakpoint is, but finding it that first time can be real exciting.
06-30-09, 06:37 PM
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87 turbo II, its under odd situations for me but it didnt totally loose control ever.
In my fc once you got loose you were loose, the fb seems forgiving
In my fc once you got loose you were loose, the fb seems forgiving
06-30-09, 07:21 PM
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Sleeper but still slow
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Yeah once my TII lost traction it was over (and now it is gone because of that ) however the FB does kick the rear end out a little, but it's far from "snap" oversteer. It's very predictable, gradual, and forgiving, the closest to snap like I said was at a rain autocross and it was after a quick flick to the left, then hard braking and a flick to the right and ANY car would have snapped round in that situation.
) however the FB does kick the rear end out a little, but it's far from "snap" oversteer. It's very predictable, gradual, and forgiving, the closest to snap like I said was at a rain autocross and it was after a quick flick to the left, then hard braking and a flick to the right and ANY car would have snapped round in that situation.