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Old 05-12-10, 11:43 PM
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3/78 #1420 in Denver with goodies

Was browsing the internet and saw this, it is rough but worth saving for 1900.

This car is not mine

3/78 #1420
Enkei 92s
Mariah Widebody
Recaro seats, need to be recovered though

Must have been a nice car back in the day. Sure someone can save it (rotarydude)



http://denver.craigslist.org/ctd/1735421662.html
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Nice find. Thanks for sharing. Would be a good project car for someone with the urge and an extra engine.
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its been on craigslist now for a couple of months they actually had it advertised with a 2nd car at one time wanted 2500 for both. ad went like this take the motor out of this one and put it in that one. I have thought about it after all I have a 2/78, 4/78, 5/78, 6/78 why not go ahead and get a 3/78 as well
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wished it was closer.
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The ruined it by installing the passenger side mirror! Sac religious on an early 79.
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Originally Posted by NCross
The ruined it by installing the passenger side mirror! Sac religious on an early 79.
...and the widebody & FB bumper isn't?

That mileage is a flat-out lie, too... look at the seats & engine bay condition. That odo's either turned over once (or more) or has been swapped or tinkered.
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Why waste a widebody on a stock 12A? I never understood that mentality.
Widebody without a boosted engine is big time rice IMHO. It will never go
fast enough to ever take advantage of the aero offered by the widebody.
Its like all the hondas with body kits one them and big fart cannon.
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Someone should definitely buy that.
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Originally Posted by t_g_farrell
Why waste a widebody on a stock 12A? I never understood that mentality.
Widebody without a boosted engine is big time rice IMHO. It will never go
fast enough to ever take advantage of the aero offered by the widebody.
Its like all the hondas with body kits one them and big fart cannon.
So how much HP/Torque engine is needed for you to take advantage of the widebody kit? Doesn't need to be boosted to get there. You could just as easily do it with a BP you have to remember the IMSA guys ran widebodies bigger than this and they weren't allowed P-ports or turbos. I know that downforce becomes a big issue with a stock body at 125-130. I am not going to debate the honda thing but as someone who has raced and driven 7s for many years your statement is wrong. Now that doesn't mean that you aren't entitled to it just that the facts don't support your statement.
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Originally Posted by rotarydude
So how much HP/Torque engine is needed for you to take advantage of the widebody kit? Doesn't need to be boosted to get there. You could just as easily do it with a BP you have to remember the IMSA guys ran widebodies bigger than this and they weren't allowed P-ports or turbos. I know that downforce becomes a big issue with a stock body at 125-130. I am not going to debate the honda thing but as someone who has raced and driven 7s for many years your statement is wrong. Now that doesn't mean that you aren't entitled to it just that the facts don't support your statement.
Ok my choice of words was wrong. By boosted I mean highly prepped beyond
stock HP.

I hear what your saying but unless this is a dedicated track car for
serious racing or frequent track days the wide body is a waste of time and
all for show. Of course that is my opinion.
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I like my widebody because it looks good, adds value to the car, aerodynamics, and because its just B-A. When you see a widebody in your drive-way everyday you just go, "Wow, do I really own that?" It's a feeling of satisfaction. It has a street-port, RB headers, Mikuni carb, no a/c, stripped interior, Holley fuel pump, and NGK ignition w/ MSD Blaster Coils. Is that boosted enough to be a good widebody, or are you still thinking thats still a little low to back it up?
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Oh I got the idea alright I just took a little bit of exception to it, since I own a couple of Widebodies. There is something to the statement

"....the wide body is a waste of time and all for show"

unless of course you put the car to good use on the track etc. I would also qualify that with a little bit more info/statment. I see exactly what is being said if you are using a W-B kit that is the size of a Mk 2 kit (think Dan Young's Widebody) then you better have peformance to back it up and use the car like it was meant to be or it really is a show piece. Dan's car is beautiful and has performance. Now if you use a kit the size of a Mk 1 that isn't as big or even a little smaller than a Mk 1 they make excellent but different first gens. I really like the way the look and you don't need to go ***** out with the performance. But of course that is just an Opinion.
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Haha, I understand what you are saying, Dan's kit is a monster, but he's got the power under the monstrous look, not just a stock engine.
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And in the end, maybe you just want a fatter tire than the SA/FB will afford. Low-key WB kits are great for picking up some tire clearance or camber. Really, there are a few pretty mundane reasons for wanting a WB kit - I'd let nearly anyone slide on it, especially if they got a good deal.

Definitely not worth jumping up in someones's **** over.
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Someone PLEASE explain how a widebody adds areodynamics? If anything, it add drag and you need more power to even run at the levels that it did before the widebody.

Back on point, buy that car, install new seats and a TII engine!
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depending on the kit of course the WB adds downforce if designed right. If it is installed right it shouldn't add any weight, it may change the weight balance just a little bit from front to rear. Most people don't install the kit right and leave a lot of stuff in place. Most of the WB kits have everything up front in fiberglass as opposed to metal. Many are designed to better funnel air into ducting for brakes or the engine.

The main reason for a WB kit is so that you can use wider wheels with different offsets in addition to the aero component.
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