11-1-11 OGTA meeting pics and video
11-01-11, 11:14 PM
#2
Gene's SA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Uyt-oyK-Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvo9TkU6n80
Peggy's 84 GSL
11-02-11, 05:20 AM
#6
Whoops, I'm slipping. Here's the 12A count, courtesy of Kristi:
1 RX-2 = 2 12A's (Jeremy)
2 SA's = 3 12A's (Gene and New Guy Robert from Alabama)
6 FB's - 5 12A's (Dean, Geraldo, Mike, New Guy Peggy from New York and buddy Wylie, Ray)
1 FB/FC = 0.75 12A's (Kristi and her PrePro)
3 FE's = 1.5 12A's (Tommy, Kevin, Holly)
Boingers = 0 12A's (Collin from Vermont in the White VW; he moved back to Atlanta because of all the floods and snow up there)
Total 12A's = 12.25 12A's
Nice turnout, great folks, even better cars!
1 RX-2 = 2 12A's (Jeremy)
2 SA's = 3 12A's (Gene and New Guy Robert from Alabama)
6 FB's - 5 12A's (Dean, Geraldo, Mike, New Guy Peggy from New York and buddy Wylie, Ray)
1 FB/FC = 0.75 12A's (Kristi and her PrePro)
3 FE's = 1.5 12A's (Tommy, Kevin, Holly)
Boingers = 0 12A's (Collin from Vermont in the White VW; he moved back to Atlanta because of all the floods and snow up there)
Total 12A's = 12.25 12A's
Nice turnout, great folks, even better cars!
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11-02-11, 12:52 PM
#8
Yes it does. The 12A is the Reference Standard. Thus a typical FB is equivalent to 1 12A.
SE's are considered experimental FB's, well intended but ultimately unsuccessful departures from the Nikki fueled 12A. So we give the SE's an honorary 12A equivalent as well.
SA's, as everybody knows, are totally cool, and the two that showed up last night proved the point without a doubt. Therefore SA's are worth 1.5 12A's each. I wanted to give that white SA 2 12A's but the 12A Equivalency Committee nixed the idea.
Old School's are in a school by themselves and their relative rarity, together with their superior rotariness, earns them 2 12A equivalents for each Old School. Some of the really spectacular Old Schools can fetch even more 12A equivalents.
FC's are still rotaries but their degenerate design (excess weight, fuel injectors, turbos added to push all that weight around, etc) means that they are only worth 0.5 12A's each. Usually we get a lot of FC's showing up at the meets, but when the weather is bad or it's starting to get cold, fewer FC's show up, probably because their owner's can't get them started.
Kristi's PrePro is a strange beast, halfway between an SE and an FC, so it gets 0.75 12A's.
Like FC's, FD's and FE's are worth 0.5 12A's each, nice cars, just not up to FB standards.
SE's are considered experimental FB's, well intended but ultimately unsuccessful departures from the Nikki fueled 12A. So we give the SE's an honorary 12A equivalent as well.
SA's, as everybody knows, are totally cool, and the two that showed up last night proved the point without a doubt. Therefore SA's are worth 1.5 12A's each. I wanted to give that white SA 2 12A's but the 12A Equivalency Committee nixed the idea.
Old School's are in a school by themselves and their relative rarity, together with their superior rotariness, earns them 2 12A equivalents for each Old School. Some of the really spectacular Old Schools can fetch even more 12A equivalents.
FC's are still rotaries but their degenerate design (excess weight, fuel injectors, turbos added to push all that weight around, etc) means that they are only worth 0.5 12A's each. Usually we get a lot of FC's showing up at the meets, but when the weather is bad or it's starting to get cold, fewer FC's show up, probably because their owner's can't get them started.
Kristi's PrePro is a strange beast, halfway between an SE and an FC, so it gets 0.75 12A's.
Like FC's, FD's and FE's are worth 0.5 12A's each, nice cars, just not up to FB standards.
11-02-11, 01:19 PM
#10
Yes it does. The 12A is the Reference Standard. Thus a typical FB is equivalent to 1 12A.
SE's are considered experimental FB's, well intended but ultimately unsuccessful departures from the Nikki fueled 12A. So we give the SE's an honorary 12A equivalent as well.
SA's, as everybody knows, are totally cool, and the two that showed up last night proved the point without a doubt. Therefore SA's are worth 1.5 12A's each. I wanted to give that white SA 2 12A's but the 12A Equivalency Committee nixed the idea.
Old School's are in a school by themselves and their relative rarity, together with their superior rotariness, earns them 2 12A equivalents for each Old School. Some of the really spectacular Old Schools can fetch even more 12A equivalents.
FC's are still rotaries but their degenerate design (excess weight, fuel injectors, turbos added to push all that weight around, etc) means that they are only worth 0.5 12A's each. Usually we get a lot of FC's showing up at the meets, but when the weather is bad or it's starting to get cold, fewer FC's show up, probably because their owner's can't get them started.
Kristi's PrePro is a strange beast, halfway between an SE and an FC, so it gets 0.75 12A's.
Like FC's, FD's and FE's are worth 0.5 12A's each, nice cars, just not up to FB standards.
SE's are considered experimental FB's, well intended but ultimately unsuccessful departures from the Nikki fueled 12A. So we give the SE's an honorary 12A equivalent as well.
SA's, as everybody knows, are totally cool, and the two that showed up last night proved the point without a doubt. Therefore SA's are worth 1.5 12A's each. I wanted to give that white SA 2 12A's but the 12A Equivalency Committee nixed the idea.
Old School's are in a school by themselves and their relative rarity, together with their superior rotariness, earns them 2 12A equivalents for each Old School. Some of the really spectacular Old Schools can fetch even more 12A equivalents.
FC's are still rotaries but their degenerate design (excess weight, fuel injectors, turbos added to push all that weight around, etc) means that they are only worth 0.5 12A's each. Usually we get a lot of FC's showing up at the meets, but when the weather is bad or it's starting to get cold, fewer FC's show up, probably because their owner's can't get them started.
Kristi's PrePro is a strange beast, halfway between an SE and an FC, so it gets 0.75 12A's.
Like FC's, FD's and FE's are worth 0.5 12A's each, nice cars, just not up to FB standards.
11-02-11, 04:29 PM
#11
Right you are Michael, I left out Crit's SE in the FB count, so the overall total 12A for for the 11-1-11 OGTA turns out to be 13.25 12A's.
Thanks for the correction! Maybe that's what Directfreak meant when he said my math didn't make any sense?
We can make a good argument your old school 13B would be worth 1.5 12A's, sounds good to me. The 12A Equivalency Committee is pretty hard to convince sometimes though, those guys don't give out 12A's very easily.
Thanks for the correction! Maybe that's what Directfreak meant when he said my math didn't make any sense?
We can make a good argument your old school 13B would be worth 1.5 12A's, sounds good to me. The 12A Equivalency Committee is pretty hard to convince sometimes though, those guys don't give out 12A's very easily.
11-02-11, 07:45 PM
#13
I know what you mean DF, I have days like that too. Especially when the Committee tears down my nominations for 12A Equivalents.
Michael's Old School FB certainly is worthy, but Holly and Kristi are brutal when it comes to 12A Equivalence allowances.
Michael's Old School FB certainly is worthy, but Holly and Kristi are brutal when it comes to 12A Equivalence allowances.
11-03-11, 01:23 PM
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11-03-11, 01:28 PM
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11-03-11, 02:38 PM
#19
Pony power indeed. That's learning about horses the hard way.
Hey Dave, no OGTA meeting is complete without you, when you coming down for one?
You got a point there Michael, if we put Holly in the driver's seat of your Old School FB, there won't be any question that it's good for 1.5 12A's, maybe 2.
'Course you may never see your car again.
Hey Dave, no OGTA meeting is complete without you, when you coming down for one?
You got a point there Michael, if we put Holly in the driver's seat of your Old School FB, there won't be any question that it's good for 1.5 12A's, maybe 2.
'Course you may never see your car again.
11-03-11, 04:17 PM
#21
That car is legendary. You should hear the stories they tell about it down here in Atlanta. Sure would be cool to see it at an OGTA meeting someday.
http://s549.photobucket.com/albums/i...msdynopull.mp4
http://s549.photobucket.com/albums/i...msdynopull.mp4
That's not possible is it?? All the wheels don't always go the same RPM's.
11-04-11, 03:58 AM
#25
You would think so. But what I've noticed over the years is that on all four of my 84/85 GSLs, the X wheels were almost always in perfect alignment, on both sides!
So I did a little research and I discovered that the Mazda engineers had installed a seldom heard of option in 84/85 on the GSLs, which they called the "Oscillating Compensatory Deregulator", or OCD.
The OCD is a device that reads the rotational positions of the X wheels (the Oscillator) and couples this data to an onboard computer that processes the information for all four wheels simultaneously (the Compensator) and feeds signals to the brake calipers (the Deregulator) to gently and occasionally provide just enough braking to each individual X wheel to keep it in line with the others. The effect is so subtle that you can't notice it when you're driving, but it works pretty well. Unless you've hit a pot hole or done some really aggressive driving lately, the wheels will be lined up each time you park the car.
I have dozens of photos to prove the point and it's not hard to observe on other 84/85 GSLs once you start to notice.
Pretty clever, eh?
So I did a little research and I discovered that the Mazda engineers had installed a seldom heard of option in 84/85 on the GSLs, which they called the "Oscillating Compensatory Deregulator", or OCD.
The OCD is a device that reads the rotational positions of the X wheels (the Oscillator) and couples this data to an onboard computer that processes the information for all four wheels simultaneously (the Compensator) and feeds signals to the brake calipers (the Deregulator) to gently and occasionally provide just enough braking to each individual X wheel to keep it in line with the others. The effect is so subtle that you can't notice it when you're driving, but it works pretty well. Unless you've hit a pot hole or done some really aggressive driving lately, the wheels will be lined up each time you park the car.
I have dozens of photos to prove the point and it's not hard to observe on other 84/85 GSLs once you start to notice.
Pretty clever, eh?