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Old 07-14-13, 04:24 PM
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570 rwhp @ 25psi e85

hey guys,
just made 570 hp on 25psi
s366
e85
aem series two
and all supporting mods
want to know where i should stop boost wise
Also whats the best trans i could with besides the t56 that will hold up and not WHINE like crazy.

T56 seems like to much work with the whole auto rear iron thing.
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Isnt it an Auto bell housing?
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from what i heard you have to use the auto iron to?
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I dyno my car same turbo and @ 28 psi on C16 it did 592hp/480 lbs tq, we try going to 30 psi but only gain 3 hp more, probably if I had a bigger hot side that would of helped. We did 3 runs and they were between 1 hp.

Now running E85, so have to retune.

What injector setup, pump and what base fuel pressure?

On the tranny, I don't think there isn't any other options than T56, at least for the money.
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Originally Posted by FC3S1991
I dyno my car same turbo and @ 28 psi on C16 it did 592hp/480 lbs tq, we try going to 30 psi but only gain 3 hp more, probably if I had a bigger hot side that would of helped. We did 3 runs and they were between 1 hp.

Now running E85, so have to retune.

What injector setup, pump and what base fuel pressure?

On the tranny, I don't think there isn't any other options than T56, at least for the money.
what ecu are you on?

you think its safe to be above 25psi?
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Originally Posted by Arthur3328
what ecu are you on?

you think its safe to be above 25psi?
I don't see why it wouldn't be safe.


I'm running Adaptronic ecu
1000/2000 cc
2 intank 340

I'm looking to add 2 more 2000 plus the 1000/2000 so I don't have to run a 70 psi base fuel pressure.
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dont the rotarys stop holding up after 25psi?
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Originally Posted by Arthur3328
hey guys,
just made 570 hp on 25psi
s366
e85
aem series two
and all supporting mods
want to know where i should stop boost wise.
assuming you have an "off-the-shelf" S366 with 0.91 a/r you can run 27-28psi boost max, until you are backpressure limited. To run more boost safely you will need to upgrade to the 1.00 or 1.10 a/r housing. (these housings are only available through the aftermarket, not off-the-shelf BW)

Originally Posted by FC3S1991
I dyno my car same turbo and @ 28 psi on C16 it did 592hp/480 lbs tq, we try going to 30 psi but only gain 3 hp more, probably if I had a bigger hot side that would of helped. We did 3 runs and they were between 1 hp.
that agrees with my experience on the 0.91 a/r for the S300SX 9180 aka S366... If you were monitoring exhaust manifold backpressure (EMAP) pre-turbo then you might see a corresponding spike in emap. like you said a bigger hot side will change that choke point, but with a slightly later spool

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dont the rotarys stop holding up after 25psi?
not if the motor, turbo, tune and fuel are up to par
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Arthur,

what is your fuel injector setup, how much rail pressure and what was your top duty cycle?

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ID2000 x4
Twin in tank walbro's
43.5 psi base pressure
88% IDC @ 25 psi (running 11.7 AFR)
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^This man would know, he tuned Arthur's car this past weekend.

Congrats to both, some pretty serious horsepower #s
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With my current 1000/2000 setup I had to raise fuel pressure to 60 psi in order to have enough fuel with E85 for 28 psi.
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Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff
assuming you have an "off-the-shelf" S366 with 0.91 a/r you can run 27-28psi boost max, until you are backpressure limited. To run more boost safely you will need to upgrade to the 1.00 or 1.10 a/r housing. (these housings are only available through the aftermarket, not off-the-shelf BW)



that agrees with my experience on the 0.91 a/r for the S300SX 9180 aka S366... If you were monitoring exhaust manifold backpressure (EMAP) pre-turbo then you might see a corresponding spike in emap. like you said a bigger hot side will change that choke point, but with a slightly later spool



not if the motor, turbo, tune and fuel are up to par
i also have a 4 inch exaughst straight back
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hey arthur - that 4" exh will flow plenty, but if the turbine housing AR is your "bottleneck" then it doesnt matter how big the exhaust is. Usually I prefer the 3.5" because it makes the same power as 4" but quieter, lighter weight and better sounding (imo) but i have a 4" on my race car right now so go figure
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yea its way to loud lol ...
but hey im happy with what it made. thata it for me. now moving on to trans upgrade and drive the **** outof it
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