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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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pinion snubber recomendations

I saw only one pic after searching for about 1 hour of a pinion snubber installed. I searched the web for universal ones. I ended up getting a few differnt types of designs for the snubber. Does anyone havea pic of it on the bench or installed? Both would b great.

I still have some delrin leftover and it would b nice if I can just make one myself. If not, could someone show me the style of pinion snubber that best installs on our cars?
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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yeah I've been looking for a writeup as well, I plan to do this when my diff mount blows
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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I saw this one
http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advance...es/snubber.jpg

Are they all using just one long bolt? Or is the stud molded into the polyurethane?
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 02:13 AM
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i use "load boosters" for pickup trucks :-) http://search.ebay.com/search/search...=32%26fsoo%3D2
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 02:47 AM
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why not get rid of the stock rubber bushings and go with delrin ones plus a nice front diff mount? The snubber idea is just a redneck band aid for drag cars with wheel hop.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 02:50 AM
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The Pinion snubber works. it stops the vertical movement as to prevent the ripping of the rubber front mount.

You call it "redneck" i call it "KIS" (Keep it simple).

this is the part you want http://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/prt,42,31052

Help Part # 31052

Autozone says this part number belongs to a rotor or something. i called my local parts plus and they had it in stock. $6

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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 03:01 AM
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Also very important is that this mod combined with a competition front mount and replacing all the factory rubber suspension bushings will reduce significantly and/or eliiminate wheel hop (which destroys your axels, stub shafts)

MAZDA intended this mod to be done by racers and already located the place to drill in the body (see pic)










I tried alot of different types and brands of pinion snubbers and I had the best results with
Energy Suspension #9.9101G (urethane). The one in the above pic is a rubber type.
You can buy it here for $10.00 a set (2 per set):

http://www.jegs.com/i/Energy%20Suspension/...-9101G/10002/-1



If you use this snubber shorten the 3/8" stud a little bit ( to make it easier to install).
Use 3/8" hole x 2" fender washer for shims (so you can preload the snubber to the diff ) I ended up using (2) of these washers for a very slight amount of preload.
And I used (1) of these washers on the interior side where the nut threads for reinforcement.
If you shorten the stud on the snubber this mod can be done quickly taking a short amount of time.
Drill the hole in the above pic.
Place a hydraulic jack under the rear suspension subframe, disconnect the rear suspension camber link and lower ever so slightly the rear suspension. Just enough to get the snubber between the body & top of diff.
Jack up the rear suspension to determine the amount of clearance/preload of the snubber to the top of diff (this is what the 2" fender washers are for - I ended up using 2 fender washers). You don't want an excessive amount of preload as this will slightly change the pinion angle.

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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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Good info!
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Thanks! Great pics and info
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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thanks for posting those pics- i just bought a snubber and i found the pics helpful.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Should the snubber be touching the diff when sitting? How far should it be from the diff?
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by initial D is REAL!
Should the snubber be touching the diff when sitting? How far should it be from the diff?
Snubber should just touch the top of diff.
Just a slight amount of pressure on top of the diff.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 02:02 AM
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you say you used "fender washers" , pardon the question but what is a fender washer as opposed to any old one you get from the hardware store?
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by arghx
you say you used "fender washers" , pardon the question but what is a fender washer as opposed to any old one you get from the hardware store?

You don't have to use a fender washer but generally a washer with a 3/8" inner hole & diameter of 2" will be classified as a "Fender Washer". The 2" diameter is important so it will support the total surface area of the pinion snubber and lessen the likelyhood of a failure if a smaller washer that didn't support the total surface area were used.

Usually fender washers are thin so getting the correct preload on can be more precise as oppsed to a thick washer. Most Hardware stores carry fender washers.

I believe in the old days large diameter washers were used to fasten car fenders and their undercovers to the car and were then known to be described as "Fender Washers".
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Thanks , great info and writeup. I was questioning the single bolt going through, but it makes sense to just use big washers.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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A mod should clean this up and archive it, since the front diff mount if a pretty popular topic.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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Thanks kato for the writeup. I will be installing mine tomorrow.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 11:07 AM
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just make sure you don't get the wrong part, one of the write ups on here suggested and even had a link to an energy suspension bump stop for a 2000-2004 ford focus and the part # was 4.6010g? something like that. Anyways, I think the original link was on summitracing.com and the part looked kinda like the black one pictured above with the cone shaped bump and 3/8" stud coming thru it. Unfortunately summitracing had them on back order for like a month so I searched the same part number on ebay and ordered 'the same' part. Unfortunately I got it in an found that it had no stud! just an empty hole! Anybody know how to make this work? maybe I could just thread a bolt through the chassis in that hole and just stick the bump stop on the end and it'll hopefully hold with the tension between the diff and chassis? I really don't wanna buy another freaking part.

Now I'm probably going to just use my delrin diff mounts with a used stock replacement front diff mount. Still waiting on my springs in the mail though.

Anybody ever broken a front diff mount while using the delrin rear mounts?
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