Ok after looking at the prices of a v mount kit $2000+ I have decided i will make my own. I will just buy a core and end caps and make the piping. as far as the radiator I think that will be the hardest part as far as relocating the inlet and outlet. also what kind of hose to get to make it all work?

I just need some measurements of peoples v mounts please. The size of the core, and end tanks

pics would be nice too

thanks in advance! --Arron

 

Speaking from personal experience don't underestimate the complexity of this project.
If you are looking for maximum sizes, you need to let us know if you intend to keep your -
1) AC system
2) Stock Battery (size and location)
3) power steering
4) stock fans
5) stock chassis wiring harness
As general info -
There is about 28 inches between the frame rails that the radiator needs to fit between as well as providing clearence for the items above.
The intercooler width is dependent on clearences as well. If this is for a track car it can be greater than twenty eight inches wide.
You will determine the angles that you mount the radiator and intercooler based on the fan(s) you use and the mountings locations of the intercooler pipes and hoses.

You can plumb your radiator with all kinds of good Samco stuff from Pegasus Racing ($$).

 

So you're going to "make your own", but you essentially want everyone to measure the v-mounts they paid money for and give you the dimensions and design.....if you're going to make your own, how about actually making your own?

 

well I have never made an itercooler before so i could use all the help i can get. and paying 2000+ is insane!

i would like to keep my stock fans, ac, power steering, well every thing exept the air pump.

 

oh and the batt. is in the storage bin behide the pasanger seat

 

Having a bad day Rynberg? You come off like this guy is stealing something.

Custom fabrication of an item, even if based upon looking at a prior design, does not infrindge on "intelectual property". Immitation is a form of flattery after all.

Some of the people on this list like to tinker and fabricate stuff for the 7 (thank god).
I agree that If you copy something and resell it thats something different.

That said, there is no way you can save any money doing this yourself if you put any kind of real value on your time. I do this kind of stuff as entertainment.

 

I built my own v-mount, if you need help, pm me or something, I'll be glad to help ya. I used my Greddy 2 row core, and koyo radiator, the piping and stuff was the trickiest. I don't have a/c, p/s, air pump, or any of that business. I have plenty of pics, let me know. Good luck
Mike

 

Nope, it has nothing to do with him "stealing" a design. He doesn't want to pay the fairly reasonable price for a v-mount kit, so he wants to "make his own". However, he has no clue of how to do that, so he wants everyone who HAS paid the money for a v-mount to tell him how to do it.

Also, this guy has annoyed the **** out of half the forum by posting a new thread (or threads) every damn day asking about basic stuff that a 30-second search could have found. Just some background for ya....

I'm glad you posted that -- it's something few realize. Most of the youth generation (which means a great deal of the forum members) seem to think that someone selling a product they developed for a profit is evil or something....apparently failing to understand development time, material procurement, or the fact that other people have to eat too.

 

I'm glad I went with the rotary extreme kit. I just don't have all the time in the world and it's nice to have one that has been tested out by somebody else. Unless you are really good and have a lot of time, it's going to look like crap. I've seen some real good custom stuff (Garfinkle) and I've seen some really bad stuff that was far from being anything but total **** (don't want to name anyone). To each their own I guess, good luck though. Just remember to TAKE YOUR TIME and DO IT RIGHT! I hate half *** looking 7's.

 

Trust me i wont half *** anything! thanks for the people who support me, if you dont please dont post on my threads. I had 13000 to spend on my car and i have spent 10,613.35 so far and i just feel that 2k is a waste of money. you can buy turbos for less. Rynberg you make it sound like if i dont buy there kit that they will die from hunger. I can get a good core for around 600+end tanks thats alot cheaper then 2k+ Im going single turbo so i need a big intercooler rotary extreme want 2800 for there larger kit!

 

If you need to ask sizes of this and then, then I would highly suggest you save yourself the money and time and just fork out the $2k for a premade kit. There are lot of items people over look.

I am in the same boat as you, but I am atleast doing research myself, and adding my own touch to it. I have probably spent atleast 36hrs++ thus far on just designing/drawing the items, but I am far from even begining to purchase and piece it together. I am trying to minimize waste ($$$), and if there is any trying to keep it to the brackets/ducwork area only.

 

also if you read the specs on the kit they use a spearco core. They just peice it together with more experience and a lot of profit. http://www.rotaryextreme.com/fdindex.html the kit i would need costs 2850, not counting shiping.
Here are some cores the most expensive one I saw was 866, http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/view...er_Cores~.html

So lest say they pay 800 for a core then 400 for a rad and then 200 for piping then labor lets say 300 for labor that totals to 1700 thats 1150 in profit. I went high on all the prices just to prove a point! im sure they get it all alot cheaper then what i have listed. I think its more of a monopoly thing because no one else ofers a kit like that. hell you give me the specs and i will make the kits for less profit!!!!!!!!!! oh ya and i can weld very well!

 

It doesn't seem like to many people like to give that much advice about the v-mount, other than buy some one elses prefabbed kit. I on the other hand like to do things my self (I thank god that I have the ability to do so). I started a thread a while back https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/radiater-v-mount-385414/ and got some decent responses, thanks to the members that contributed. I didn't seem to get any bashing but the response was low. I am still working on the set up but waiting to see how the new body panels (vented hood, and new front bumper) fit before I finalize on the placment of the components. Another reason I chose to fab up my own is that every bodys setup is different. I wont be using AC, PS, or the air pump. But I will be using the stock twins. As you can see I dont have to worry about alot of the things people say take time to fabricate and fit. Also the battery will be in the pasenger bin. I think I listed a link to the radiater I will be using. anyways good luck with the build and feel free to ask me any Q.

 

I would like to see pics of you could post them up.

 

If you have that little of cash, then you shouldn't even own this car, let alone trying to do a single turbo install! Your comments about the cost to make the v-mount show just how ignorant you are about what's required.

If it's so easy and cheap, why are you on here asking for even basic help? A few people have already posted on this thread (as well as several others) that doing it yourself the RIGHT WAY, will not really save you any money over buying a kit and it will take a hell of a lot more of your time. That's fine if you really are capable of doing it the RIGHT WAY and spending weeks getting the setup to work. It's not fine if you don't enjoy that luxury.

If you actually stop and listen to me and some of the others, you'll change your mind on this whole project. I guarantee it. If you aren't capable of figuring out basic things like what core and size to use, there is no way you are going to complete a fully working system, especially one that keeps your A/C and P/S.

If you only have $2500 left to spend, how the hell do you expect to install a single turbo? Do you already have exhaust, ecu, higher-flowing fuel injectors and pump, etc.? What will you do if you blow the motor? What about basic maintenance? It's doubtful the car is in perfect working order for a purchase price of under $11k.

Put your ego aside and LISTEN to people that know what they are talking about.

 

thanks for the link and the support!!!

As far as the ryberg guy goes who said I paid 11k for the car? because it was 12K the motor was just rebuilt with atkins 2pc 2mm seal and has a gonzo port. I talked to the guy who built the motor and as far as installing it im not a retard most of the stuff is taking the old stuff off and bolting on the new. im going to take it to gotham racing for tuning. an wala my car is done. Im one of those kind of guy that likes to do the most i can to my own car, so when you look at it you can say i that I, i didnt pay some guy to do it for me!

And again thanks to the people who support me!!!

 

this is what all i have got for $10,613.35

big single turbo kit
Apex-i avc-r
act clutch
Block off plates
Apex-i PFC+commander
Ast tank
A fuel system to support 500hp+
hks turbo timer
Hks bov kit
Greddy pully kit
Aem wide band
Pineapple racing oil pan (5 qt.)
jocobs pro pak W/ wires
3bar map sensor
Clutch master cly
Clutch slave cly
Clutch hoses
act street lite flywheel
sx fuel psi reg
Defi- d series gauges, Boost, egt, fuel psi, 2 temp gauges, and the cotroller unit II
Racing beat dual tip 3in
bonez 3in mid pipe
all gauge pods needed
oh ya and a 5 speed tranny

I think im doing well so far! The only things left are a pedal ***. and the intercooler and radiator.

 

Its people like you that give 3rd gen owners a bad name! I like the way the dsm forums are run no bashing of any kind no telling people to search and no bitching or calling people nebies, if you do you are locked out of the thread and warend if it still happends the you are kick off. this site should be a good experience for any and all and not have to worry about being flamed if you dont like a thread dont post under it!!! I wish this site was more like that! It should be a place where people can talk about there cars and not talk about how dumb people are or in expericed! just a thought!

 

Those forums are also cluttered with tons of useless threads with incomplete answers to problems. Every time I try and search for something I can't find it, because everyone titles their threads "what's wrong with my car?", and "HELP! Car won't start", or my personal favorite "JDM Type R (fill in blank)".

Basically you need to understand that bandwidth is limited, and the few experienced people on here that can help with your questions and projects get sick of saying the same things over and over when it literally takes seconds to do a search and find the same question.

As far as your V-Mount project goes, since there isn't a lot documented info out there, a large portion of the process is going to be measurements and experimentation done by you. The concensus seems to be that the cost factor won't be much difference, so if your in this purely to save money then you may want to consider just purchasing the kit, or look at FMIC or other alternatives. In the event you stick with the project and are successful, maybe you could be the first one to document your complete building process.

 

EXACTLY. In a f*#king nutshell. This is one of the few forums I visit that actually has some useful resources--both in threads and links-- and at least some intelligent members who don't litter their posts with "dumbphonics".

 

how do you figure it would be the around the same in cost? not trying to be an *** just wondering?

 

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-That depends on how much your time is worth. Many mechanics charge $75 / hour around here. A good fabricator is worth much more, because they need to know how to weld, measure, cut, etc... I'd estimate you're looking at 5-10 hours of labor, depending on the experience of the fabricator.

Fabricating something is not nearly as simple as "just unbolting stuff and bolting new stuff in," as you so eloquently put it. I would say that making your own intercooler (vmount or otherwise) is more difficult than removing & replacing an engine.


You've got to measure & decide where the IC and radiator are going to go, make brackets, test fit, then once the placement is finalized, make piping, and test fit again. A good job will also include ducting: a heat exchanger won't be nearly as efficient if it doesn't have air being forced through it. If you're skillful and lucky, everything will line up the first time. If you're careless, you'll do it two or three times, possibly more.


If you're not able to determine the measurements yourself, or at least get a general idea from searching other threads or advertisements that show photos of people's v-mount setups, then you really shouldn't take this project on. Your first fabrication project is usually going to turn out like crap compared to the quality of work you'll be able to produce once you've got some experience under your belt.


I'd hate to be the guy ruining a $400 intercooler core, $400 radiator, and nearly $100 worth of accessories and piping, even if it was in the name of originality or DIY.

Good Luck,
-s-

 

I fabbed my own, large stock mount IC, $400 ebay core. I own a fab shop, am a good fabber, and by the time I figured out at my shop rates what this cost me, I could shoot myself for not buying a kit. Not that it was'nt fun using 40-50 hours of my free time searching the net for tube elbo's, silicone couplers, trips to the hardware store, and plenty of head scratchin tring to figure out which way to go next.

 

Where did I say that?

Let me quote myself, "The concensus seems to be that the cost factor won't be much different..."