Adaptronic Setting up traction control
01-05-19, 11:03 AM
#53
Any updates on this? I am having similar issues with my rx8. I have a digital speed signal in my rx8 as MVSS. I am trying to read one of my front ABS sensors as a SVSS, but I can't get a signal in Eugene (and my ABS light comes on). 2-step turns off during tire spin and there doesn't seem to be a good way to get the signal. Seems like after years of this issue there would be a readily available work around by now.
Thanks
Thanks
01-05-19, 12:06 PM
#54
Any updates on this? I am having similar issues with my rx8. I have a digital speed signal in my rx8 as MVSS. I am trying to read one of my front ABS sensors as a SVSS, but I can't get a signal in Eugene (and my ABS light comes on). 2-step turns off during tire spin and there doesn't seem to be a good way to get the signal. Seems like after years of this issue there would be a readily available work around by now.
Thanks
Thanks
Adaptronic got access to "all the Haltech resources", but it looks like it was just a vending machine and a foosball table to keep them busy until the Modular ECUs are phased out
01-06-19, 08:47 PM
#55
Modular ECU's are not getting phased out by the way.. Adaptronic is its own sister company and will continue to produce products. No correlation to the Rx7 community but as an example the new Buick Grand National ECU will be released in a few weeks. Also there will be a new Adaptronic display dash coming soon as well... Updates are coming regularly as well.
Things that happen at haltech happen relatively slowly which is intern relates to a more well polished updates and intern Adaptronic is following that same principle along with any defects that do come up through warranty claims each claim is getting fully dissected to improve the product and make sure that issue does not happen again. The same engineer that does this type of diagnosing is the same one that does it for the Haltech ECU's.
So things will come and issues will be resolved. I can tell you that any select issues most likely will not be fixed but anything modular related gets fixed asap if an issue is found.
Thanks,
Shawn Christenson
08-22-19, 06:31 PM
#56
I failed to update this thread after building it. The Launch control works great, the traction control is less obvious, but also works.
Here are some pics in google photos FD Traction Control
Here are some pics in google photos FD Traction Control
10-07-19, 02:38 PM
#57
Senior Member
Hi guys,
I'm very sorry for the delay, I only had the chance to test the ABS sensors wired directly (no interface board) to the Adaptronic the end of last month, and it didn't work well (i.e. didn't read well at low speeds).
So now I'll post the wiring / schematic we currently have on the car, but before I do that, it is important that I say that splicing into the ABS wiring is at your own risk. Don't try to do this, if you're not really comfortable with wiring stuff. Also, we only recommend this mod done on race cars and not on road legal cars.
But yeah, here they are:
Figure 1 is what we did to splice into the factory ABS sensors, without upsetting the ABS control unit. We've used the transformers in between the sensors and the Adaptronic ABS interface board to couple the signal instead of wiring directly. Wiring them directly messes up with the signal's phase and the ABS control unit doesn't like it. The schematic of the interface board is also shown in case you want to make one yourself.
Figure 2 is a case where you have the ABS sensors available, but don't have the ABS control unit or is not working anymore. I.e. so we don't have to worry about it getting upset and throwing a light.
The last picture shows the traction control settings that I used when I tried it on my mate's car.
There is also an option to use a potentiometer to adjust the target wheel slip, so you don't need a laptop when you want to change the sensitivity of the system. However the POT needs to be wired into the ECU's spare / external 0-5v analogue input, so you only have this option if that input pin is free.
If you have questions, please let me know. Post it here or email me at tech@adaptronic.com.au
Thank you.
I'm very sorry for the delay, I only had the chance to test the ABS sensors wired directly (no interface board) to the Adaptronic the end of last month, and it didn't work well (i.e. didn't read well at low speeds).
So now I'll post the wiring / schematic we currently have on the car, but before I do that, it is important that I say that splicing into the ABS wiring is at your own risk. Don't try to do this, if you're not really comfortable with wiring stuff. Also, we only recommend this mod done on race cars and not on road legal cars.
But yeah, here they are:
Figure 1 is what we did to splice into the factory ABS sensors, without upsetting the ABS control unit. We've used the transformers in between the sensors and the Adaptronic ABS interface board to couple the signal instead of wiring directly. Wiring them directly messes up with the signal's phase and the ABS control unit doesn't like it. The schematic of the interface board is also shown in case you want to make one yourself.
Figure 2 is a case where you have the ABS sensors available, but don't have the ABS control unit or is not working anymore. I.e. so we don't have to worry about it getting upset and throwing a light.
The last picture shows the traction control settings that I used when I tried it on my mate's car.
There is also an option to use a potentiometer to adjust the target wheel slip, so you don't need a laptop when you want to change the sensitivity of the system. However the POT needs to be wired into the ECU's spare / external 0-5v analogue input, so you only have this option if that input pin is free.
If you have questions, please let me know. Post it here or email me at tech@adaptronic.com.au
Thank you.
I know this thread is really old but could you anyone maybe tell me what transformers i should use , as i want to splice into the ABS Harness without affecting the ABS itself ? Maybe someone can point me to a part number ?
10-09-19, 07:07 PM
#58
When I contacted tech support, I was given a wiring diagram and told to solder up a board on my own
"Take my money and sell me some **** to make this work"
"No. Build it yourself ************. Here is a picture of what you should do"
I'll happily solder a few wires together with confidence, but I'm not putting a board together from loose parts and expecting it to last in my car
10-19-19, 12:40 PM
#59
Senior Member
AFAIK there is no part number
When I contacted tech support, I was given a wiring diagram and told to solder up a board on my own
"Take my money and sell me some **** to make this work"
"No. Build it yourself ************. Here is a picture of what you should do"
I'll happily solder a few wires together with confidence, but I'm not putting a board together from loose parts and expecting it to last in my car
When I contacted tech support, I was given a wiring diagram and told to solder up a board on my own
"Take my money and sell me some **** to make this work"
"No. Build it yourself ************. Here is a picture of what you should do"
I'll happily solder a few wires together with confidence, but I'm not putting a board together from loose parts and expecting it to last in my car
So wrote to Adaptronic tech support with regards to the transformer part number and i got a email back with the part number within minutes , very awesome service :-)
As i am planning to install this in my car and did not want to solder components on a universal pcb and solder wires between the components i decided to give it to a freelancer to design a PCB for me so i have a sturdy board .
Because i want to use this in my ECU that has a limit of 500 hz for the digital inputs i added some frequency dividers to the board . and pinned them out seperately.
I chose on purpose to use easy hand solderable components so i can make myself a single PCB and keep the costs down .
As connector i chose a AMP superseal 26 way .
I ordered the pcb itself from this site :
https://jlcpcb.com
11USD including shipping for 5 PCB's without components is not bad .
Attached are the gerber files and a short PDF with more detailed info and which components you can leave off the board if you don't need the frequency converters that output at a quarter of the input frequency
*** I haven't tested it yet so there is no guarantee it works !!!! but everything is according to the schematic .****
I will get the board in a couple of weeks ( shipping to south africa takes ages )
I will report back as soon as i tested everything .
10-24-19, 07:13 PM
#60
Member jkstill was very helpful and provided me with all the part numbers and and info he still had when he built his board . He didn't use transformers as he deleted the ABS . Big thanks for your help
So wrote to Adaptronic tech support with regards to the transformer part number and i got a email back with the part number within minutes , very awesome service :-)
As i am planning to install this in my car and did not want to solder components on a universal pcb and solder wires between the components i decided to give it to a freelancer to design a PCB for me so i have a sturdy board .
Because i want to use this in my ECU that has a limit of 500 hz for the digital inputs i added some frequency dividers to the board . and pinned them out seperately.
I chose on purpose to use easy hand solderable components so i can make myself a single PCB and keep the costs down .
As connector i chose a AMP superseal 26 way .
I ordered the pcb itself from this site :
https://jlcpcb.com
11USD including shipping for 5 PCB's without components is not bad .
Attached are the gerber files and a short PDF with more detailed info and which components you can leave off the board if you don't need the frequency converters that output at a quarter of the input frequency
*** I haven't tested it yet so there is no guarantee it works !!!! but everything is according to the schematic .****
I will get the board in a couple of weeks ( shipping to south africa takes ages )
I will report back as soon as i tested everything .
So wrote to Adaptronic tech support with regards to the transformer part number and i got a email back with the part number within minutes , very awesome service :-)
As i am planning to install this in my car and did not want to solder components on a universal pcb and solder wires between the components i decided to give it to a freelancer to design a PCB for me so i have a sturdy board .
Because i want to use this in my ECU that has a limit of 500 hz for the digital inputs i added some frequency dividers to the board . and pinned them out seperately.
I chose on purpose to use easy hand solderable components so i can make myself a single PCB and keep the costs down .
As connector i chose a AMP superseal 26 way .
I ordered the pcb itself from this site :
https://jlcpcb.com
11USD including shipping for 5 PCB's without components is not bad .
Attached are the gerber files and a short PDF with more detailed info and which components you can leave off the board if you don't need the frequency converters that output at a quarter of the input frequency
*** I haven't tested it yet so there is no guarantee it works !!!! but everything is according to the schematic .****
I will get the board in a couple of weeks ( shipping to south africa takes ages )
I will report back as soon as i tested everything .
Please let me know if this works
If I'm not going to use the optional yellow and blue areas, is it (theoretically) as simple as leaving those components out and soldering/wiring the rest up normally?
Would there be any reason for me to submit a gerber file that doesn't include those sections on the board?
Last edited by $lacker; 10-24-19 at 07:18 PM.
10-25-19, 10:13 AM
#61
Senior Member
AFAIK there is no part number
When I contacted tech support, I was given a wiring diagram and told to solder up a board on my own
"Take my money and sell me some **** to make this work"
"No. Build it yourself ************. Here is a picture of what you should do"
I'll happily solder a few wires together with confidence, but I'm not putting a board together from loose parts and expecting it to last in my car
When I contacted tech support, I was given a wiring diagram and told to solder up a board on my own
"Take my money and sell me some **** to make this work"
"No. Build it yourself ************. Here is a picture of what you should do"
I'll happily solder a few wires together with confidence, but I'm not putting a board together from loose parts and expecting it to last in my car
So wrote to Adaptronic tech support with regards to the transformer part number and i got a email back with the part number within minutes , very awesome service
As i am planning to install this in my car and did not want to solder components on a universal pcb and solder wires between the components i decided to give it to a freelancer to design a PCB for me so i have a sturdy board .
Because i want to use this in my ECU that has a limit of 500 hz for the digital inputs i added some frequency dividers to the board . and pinned them out seperately.
I chose on purpose to use easy hand solderable components so i can make myself a single PCB and keep the costs down .
As connector i chose a AMP superseal 26 way .
I ordered the pcb itself from this site :
https://jlcpcb.com
11USD including shipping for 5 PCB's without components is not bad .
Attached are the gerber files and a short PDF with more detailed info and which components you can leave off the board if you don't need the frequency converters that output at a quarter of the input frequency
*** I haven't tested it yet so there is no guarantee it works !!!! but everything is according to the schematic .****
I will get the board in a couple of weeks ( shipping to south africa takes ages )
I will report back as soon as i tested everything .
10-28-19, 06:51 AM
#62
Member jkstill was very helpful and provided me with all the part numbers and and info he still had when he built his board . He didnt
So wrote to Adaptronic tech support with regards to the transformer part number and i got a email back with the part number within minutes , very awesome service
As i am planning to install this in my car and did not want to solder components on a universal pcb and solder wires between the components i decided to give it to a freelancer to design a PCB for me so i have a sturdy board .
Because i want to use this in my ECU that has a limit of 500 hz for the digital inputs i added some frequency dividers to the board . and pinned them out seperately.
I chose on purpose to use easy hand solderable components so i can make myself a single PCB and keep the costs down .
As connector i chose a AMP superseal 26 way .
I ordered the pcb itself from this site :
https://jlcpcb.com
11USD including shipping for 5 PCB's without components is not bad .
Attached are the gerber files and a short PDF with more detailed info and which components you can leave off the board if you don't need the frequency converters that output at a quarter of the input frequency
*** I haven't tested it yet so there is no guarantee it works !!!! but everything is according to the schematic .****
I will get the board in a couple of weeks ( shipping to south africa takes ages )
I will report back as soon as i tested everything .
So wrote to Adaptronic tech support with regards to the transformer part number and i got a email back with the part number within minutes , very awesome service
As i am planning to install this in my car and did not want to solder components on a universal pcb and solder wires between the components i decided to give it to a freelancer to design a PCB for me so i have a sturdy board .
Because i want to use this in my ECU that has a limit of 500 hz for the digital inputs i added some frequency dividers to the board . and pinned them out seperately.
I chose on purpose to use easy hand solderable components so i can make myself a single PCB and keep the costs down .
As connector i chose a AMP superseal 26 way .
I ordered the pcb itself from this site :
https://jlcpcb.com
11USD including shipping for 5 PCB's without components is not bad .
Attached are the gerber files and a short PDF with more detailed info and which components you can leave off the board if you don't need the frequency converters that output at a quarter of the input frequency
*** I haven't tested it yet so there is no guarantee it works !!!! but everything is according to the schematic .****
I will get the board in a couple of weeks ( shipping to south africa takes ages )
I will report back as soon as i tested everything .
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#63
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