Pictures of my custom brake duct inlets
02-19-05, 08:12 PM
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Pictures of my custom brake duct inlets
After trying a few less than satisfactory methods of plumbing my ducted front brakes to the front of the car I went ahead and had a friend of mine that works art a BMW racing shop fabricate some custom front brake ducts. Attached to this post are some pictures.
They're made of aluminum and are fairly low profile so they won't scrape easily on dips or driveways. I think my friend went a little over kill on the inlet area. But he insists that you should have an inlet area that is 2.5 to 3 times the side of your duct hose.
Yes, I'm going to paint the little red bolts that hold the bottom of the duct to the lip spoiler black at a future date.
I have not yet tried these at the track. My last setup worked well at the track but hung down too long and would get ripped off on the street on. I expect to run at Buttonwillow raceway next Sunday so I'll see how they do.
They're made of aluminum and are fairly low profile so they won't scrape easily on dips or driveways. I think my friend went a little over kill on the inlet area. But he insists that you should have an inlet area that is 2.5 to 3 times the side of your duct hose.
Yes, I'm going to paint the little red bolts that hold the bottom of the duct to the lip spoiler black at a future date.
I have not yet tried these at the track. My last setup worked well at the track but hung down too long and would get ripped off on the street on. I expect to run at Buttonwillow raceway next Sunday so I'll see how they do.
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02-19-05, 10:06 PM
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Paint them flat black like the lip and you won't hardly notice them. Maybe even trim them back a little bit to hide them some more but they look good and functional.
What kind of duct do you have on the brake side? The Ntech ones?
What kind of duct do you have on the brake side? The Ntech ones?
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02-20-05, 02:49 AM
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You should paint the duct black also. If I saw your car in a parking lot, and I looked for stock brake ducts, and I saw these actual enclosed ducts in its place, I'd be like 
Nice job.
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Nice job.
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02-20-05, 07:18 AM
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Actually it's not super noticable when the car is on the ground. I'll post some pics later. The fact that the car is silver helps make them not stand out too much. But you all are definately correct that if I paint them black they'd probably blend in much better.
Yes, the brake rotor backing plastes are from NTech.
I used to have the R1 lip spoiler and ducts. The fact is that the factory R1 equipment really doesn't cool the brakes much at all. After I got the NTech brake rotor backing plates the first thing I tried was plumbing the original R1 lip spoiler duct opening to the brake air hose. The brakes would still get too hot due to the very small size of the inlet area (at the track only of course). Then I used a generic plastic brake duct inlet from a racing supply store placed behind the R1 lip spoiler. This worked well because it was rather large and would collect air from both the R1 lip spoiler inlet and from underneath the car. But since it was so big it hung down really low and would often scrape and even get broken off when driving on the street.
That's when I decided to let my friend help me with the setup I have now. Of course this setup is entirely unneccessary for street driving. But I hope it will provide two things: 1) Large enough inlet area to work well at the track 2) Low profile enough to not scrape too often on the street.
Yes, the brake rotor backing plastes are from NTech.
Originally Posted by jimlab
Mazda was out of R1/2 brake ducts? 
That's when I decided to let my friend help me with the setup I have now. Of course this setup is entirely unneccessary for street driving. But I hope it will provide two things: 1) Large enough inlet area to work well at the track 2) Low profile enough to not scrape too often on the street.
02-20-05, 09:25 AM
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i agree! flat black would look great
Originally Posted by BigIslandSevens
Paint them flat black like the lip and you won't hardly notice them. Maybe even trim them back a little bit to hide them some more but they look good and functional.
What kind of duct do you have on the brake side? The Ntech ones?
What kind of duct do you have on the brake side? The Ntech ones?
02-20-05, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Barban
Look At That M1 In The First Pic!!!!!1!!1
10-13-05, 08:18 PM
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Update... so I've had these on for 8 months now and about 10 trackday weekends. No fading at the track even when I beat them as hard as I can. Work great on the street too! In other words they haven't ripped off when I've taken a dip or driveway too fast. Still have not painted them... I'll get to it.
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10-13-05, 08:25 PM
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John, out of curiosity, do you know if the hose is necessary to direct the air? Do cars like the Porsche Turbo have hoses after the duct in the front bumper directing the air as such? Or is it just done w/ an inlet + fins, and air moving through the fender lining, as I understand happens on the R model FD's?
10-13-05, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Mazda was out of R1/2 brake ducts?
are there a circular areas on the back ends of the r1/r2 ducts to clamp the hoses onto?
or does someone here have any pics of the back side of the ducts out of the car?
10-13-05, 08:34 PM
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Having a dedicated hose directing air directly into a sealed center section is the best for cooling. It will ensure that all the air from the duct inlets is pushed through the vents in the rotors.
I'm not sure how many factory cars if any have a ducting system exactly like the setup my car and other track cars have. Most factory Porsches I've seen have brakes ducts that just direct air at the brakes. Kinda like the R1 but a bit better.
I'm not sure how many factory cars if any have a ducting system exactly like the setup my car and other track cars have. Most factory Porsches I've seen have brakes ducts that just direct air at the brakes. Kinda like the R1 but a bit better.
10-13-05, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wanklin
are there a circular areas on the back ends of the r1/r2 ducts to clamp the hoses onto?
10-13-05, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hotfd3s
Just curious, are you running stock brakes?
https://www.rx7club.com/race-car-tech-103/yes-m2-wilwood-13-brake-kit-actually-fits-under-stock-16-fd-wheels-298706/
10-14-05, 12:27 AM
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those are nice but a brake duct from www.racerpartswholesale.com/ should be good enough. They will just take a little effort to fit. This is what I plan on using with the ntechs and a ap kit. I just have way too many projects. They are plastic but only $15 a peice.
Or have you tried something simular and it was not good enough? Mike
Or have you tried something simular and it was not good enough? Mike
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