Smog question (HC)
I have a 93 RX-7 and recently tried to smog it. It failed because the HC went over by 2 points. Max is 37 but measured was 39 at 25 mph. Any tips on how I can fix this?
Additional information is that I replaced the spark plugs and did an oil change before the smog.
Additional information is that I replaced the spark plugs and did an oil change before the smog.
hope this helps, i got state reff'ed so none of that shady stuff
https://www.rx7club.com/west-rx-7-forum-193/state-ref-991425/
https://www.rx7club.com/west-rx-7-forum-193/state-ref-991425/
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take it back on a hotter day and fully warm it up and leave it running before the test.
2 points is 2 points, nothing magical but add a little more heat to the converter and it will pass. they should pass it on merit, it did try and came damn close...
2 points is 2 points, nothing magical but add a little more heat to the converter and it will pass. they should pass it on merit, it did try and came damn close...
id have to see the smog report but if it passed hc at 15 and didnt pass hc at 25 then your problem is going to be electrical(plugs and wires) if the hc's are insanely out of bounds then id say take a look at the cat but so long as the nox is in bounds your cat is good! if it has a down stream o2 sensor then try n see if you can hook up an oscilloscope to it. It should read flatline whereas the upstream will toggle as usual. that will let you no if the cat is good! its hard to kill a cat unless your engine runs dirty(burns oil n too rich).
don't get all crazy trying to diagnose anything, if you blew on the tailpipe while it was running the test it would have brought it down those 2 points. i'm really surprised the smog tech didn't just offer to rerun the test.... but you know, people just don't give a **** these days.
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ben, you do know legally, as a smog tech, we dont have to run anything twice, specially not if it means helping a car pass......thats illegal..........
now, if you wanted to check to see if itd pass, ask to have a pretest done. then, if it doesnt pass, pay for another one. nice part about that is that a pretest doesnt get sent to the dmv/bar, and if it passes the second time, then have the vehicle run on the normal test right then. bam, should pass.
2 points on the hc isnt uncommon, and a fail is still a fail.
like i said, a pretest should take car of it. its absolutely absurd how low the limits are for some cars, but not others......
oh well, welcome to the soviet state of california. if youre in the east bay, hit me up, i can take a look at it for you, 100% legally, nothing shady
Lloyd
now, if you wanted to check to see if itd pass, ask to have a pretest done. then, if it doesnt pass, pay for another one. nice part about that is that a pretest doesnt get sent to the dmv/bar, and if it passes the second time, then have the vehicle run on the normal test right then. bam, should pass.
2 points on the hc isnt uncommon, and a fail is still a fail.
like i said, a pretest should take car of it. its absolutely absurd how low the limits are for some cars, but not others......
oh well, welcome to the soviet state of california. if youre in the east bay, hit me up, i can take a look at it for you, 100% legally, nothing shady
Lloyd
ben, you do know legally, as a smog tech, we dont have to run anything twice, specially not if it means helping a car pass......thats illegal..........
now, if you wanted to check to see if itd pass, ask to have a pretest done. then, if it doesnt pass, pay for another one. nice part about that is that a pretest doesnt get sent to the dmv/bar, and if it passes the second time, then have the vehicle run on the normal test right then. bam, should pass.
2 points on the hc isnt uncommon, and a fail is still a fail.
like i said, a pretest should take car of it. its absolutely absurd how low the limits are for some cars, but not others......
oh well, welcome to the soviet state of california. if youre in the east bay, hit me up, i can take a look at it for you, 100% legally, nothing shady
Lloyd
now, if you wanted to check to see if itd pass, ask to have a pretest done. then, if it doesnt pass, pay for another one. nice part about that is that a pretest doesnt get sent to the dmv/bar, and if it passes the second time, then have the vehicle run on the normal test right then. bam, should pass.
2 points on the hc isnt uncommon, and a fail is still a fail.
like i said, a pretest should take car of it. its absolutely absurd how low the limits are for some cars, but not others......
oh well, welcome to the soviet state of california. if youre in the east bay, hit me up, i can take a look at it for you, 100% legally, nothing shady
Lloyd
ben, you do know legally, as a smog tech, we dont have to run anything twice, specially not if it means helping a car pass......thats illegal..........
now, if you wanted to check to see if itd pass, ask to have a pretest done. then, if it doesnt pass, pay for another one. nice part about that is that a pretest doesnt get sent to the dmv/bar, and if it passes the second time, then have the vehicle run on the normal test right then. bam, should pass.
2 points on the hc isnt uncommon, and a fail is still a fail.
like i said, a pretest should take car of it. its absolutely absurd how low the limits are for some cars, but not others......
oh well, welcome to the soviet state of california. if youre in the east bay, hit me up, i can take a look at it for you, 100% legally, nothing shady
Lloyd
now, if you wanted to check to see if itd pass, ask to have a pretest done. then, if it doesnt pass, pay for another one. nice part about that is that a pretest doesnt get sent to the dmv/bar, and if it passes the second time, then have the vehicle run on the normal test right then. bam, should pass.
2 points on the hc isnt uncommon, and a fail is still a fail.
like i said, a pretest should take car of it. its absolutely absurd how low the limits are for some cars, but not others......
oh well, welcome to the soviet state of california. if youre in the east bay, hit me up, i can take a look at it for you, 100% legally, nothing shady
Lloyd
who knows, maybe they changed the rules. back in the day we could test a single car 100 times in a day if it kept failing. no cali smog tech ever told me it was against any rule.
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oh you can run a car as many times as you want in a row, if you want bar coming down and investigating. it makes it look like illegal activity is going on. most smog techs, including myself, will not run a car twice in the same day, at least within a few hours of each other. the laws and rules are getting more and more strict, to the point now where if you mess up smogging a car, it shows up in their database and is held against you, if it happens enough, they investigate.
plus, with the state going with the star program, if you mess up a lot, its nearly impossible to get a smog job, cause shops wont want to hire you because it will effect them and business.......
***** getting insane. its why im trying to get out of dealing with smog and only dealing with racing fab, engine building, **** like that
Lloyd
plus, with the state going with the star program, if you mess up a lot, its nearly impossible to get a smog job, cause shops wont want to hire you because it will effect them and business.......
***** getting insane. its why im trying to get out of dealing with smog and only dealing with racing fab, engine building, **** like that
Lloyd
Thanks for all the input guys!
I did warm up the car before the test. Would be nice to have one of you guys take a look at it. I'm in Daly City so if anyone can just let me know.
Hey Ben! Remeber me? Haven't seen you since you moved down to LV.
I did warm up the car before the test. Would be nice to have one of you guys take a look at it. I'm in Daly City so if anyone can just let me know.
Hey Ben! Remeber me? Haven't seen you since you moved down to LV.
oh you can run a car as many times as you want in a row, if you want bar coming down and investigating. it makes it look like illegal activity is going on. most smog techs, including myself, will not run a car twice in the same day, at least within a few hours of each other. the laws and rules are getting more and more strict, to the point now where if you mess up smogging a car, it shows up in their database and is held against you, if it happens enough, they investigate.
plus, with the state going with the star program, if you mess up a lot, its nearly impossible to get a smog job, cause shops wont want to hire you because it will effect them and business.......
***** getting insane. its why im trying to get out of dealing with smog and only dealing with racing fab, engine building, **** like that
Lloyd
plus, with the state going with the star program, if you mess up a lot, its nearly impossible to get a smog job, cause shops wont want to hire you because it will effect them and business.......
***** getting insane. its why im trying to get out of dealing with smog and only dealing with racing fab, engine building, **** like that
Lloyd
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