Rotary power is under rated...
07-26-08, 10:53 PM
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Yes, I like getting slapped in the face "repeatidly", whatever the that means. 
What exactly are you trying to prove with these videos? That was definitely an impressive run, no doubt. Like I said, I respect the rotary, if you would have read my whole post.
I guess I should "STFU" now. You've really gotten your point across, thanks! Go West Side!!! STFU!!!
What exactly are you trying to prove with these videos? That was definitely an impressive run, no doubt. Like I said, I respect the rotary, if you would have read my whole post.I guess I should "STFU" now. You've really gotten your point across, thanks! Go West Side!!! STFU!!!
07-26-08, 11:09 PM
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What I am trying to prove is that to make the rx7 fast and reliable you don't have to throw a Chevy motor in it. 99.9% of the people who are putting LS1's in their rx7's is because they don't know squat about rotary engines and how to tune them. I too have much respect for piston engines and have owned and raced them too, but to throw one in a japanese car just makes me cringe. Bottom line if you like the LS1 then go buy a corvette or camaro. If you like rotaries than buy an RX. If you like that kind of **** then go open a "Mutt" car forum somewhere.
( at "U idiots" )
07-26-08, 11:12 PM
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^^^^^ hahahah NIKKA ANDREW I SEE MY WORDS STUCK WITH YYOU!!!
I LOVE ROTARIES PERIOD!
but well never put out as much torque and power as a stock ls1, unless we mod and ofcourse mods are the way to go..
i have respect for the ls1 and piston..
but ROTARIES FOR LIFE SON!!
but ey ...
to each ther own!
I LOVE ROTARIES PERIOD!
but well never put out as much torque and power as a stock ls1, unless we mod and ofcourse mods are the way to go..
i have respect for the ls1 and piston..
but ROTARIES FOR LIFE SON!!
but ey ...
to each ther own!
The fact that their rx7's have a LSx in it, makes it a modified rx7. So to say that
we have to mod our rotary's to stand a chance is an oxymoron (sorry hozz). So there is
no such thing as a "stock" LS1 once you put in a rx7.
07-26-08, 11:23 PM
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Actually, this forum is a rx-7 enthusiasts forum, not a rotary enthusiast forum.
And to the topic, rotary engine is efficiency is great for the volume, and when force induction comes to play are they rock. But here are the facts.
Modded Turbo 13b = Fast
Modded LSX = Fast
SC/Turbo LSX = FAST AS ****!
Modded Turbo 20b = FAST AS ****!
Car can go fast in the straits, or corners.. but depends on the car.. not the engine. So pointless saying my rotary rx-7 is faster then your LS2 rx-7 on a road course..
Hell a heavy 350v8 rx-7 will rape a rotary rx-7 if the rotary rx-7 is setup for drag on a road course.. its all car setup, not engine.
With all that said, who cares!! Just drive and have fun.
I think Andrew has the most say on LSX vs Rotary setup, being that he has owned both rotary and LS1 FC, both raced on a road course, and now currently swapping an LS1 on his perfectly running FD.
And for the record, all of my RX cars have been rotary powered, but nothing against V8 RX's....
So everyone stop your bitching.
And to the topic, rotary engine is efficiency is great for the volume, and when force induction comes to play are they rock. But here are the facts.
Modded Turbo 13b = Fast
Modded LSX = Fast
SC/Turbo LSX = FAST AS ****!
Modded Turbo 20b = FAST AS ****!
Car can go fast in the straits, or corners.. but depends on the car.. not the engine. So pointless saying my rotary rx-7 is faster then your LS2 rx-7 on a road course..
Hell a heavy 350v8 rx-7 will rape a rotary rx-7 if the rotary rx-7 is setup for drag on a road course.. its all car setup, not engine.
With all that said, who cares!! Just drive and have fun.
I think Andrew has the most say on LSX vs Rotary setup, being that he has owned both rotary and LS1 FC, both raced on a road course, and now currently swapping an LS1 on his perfectly running FD.
And for the record, all of my RX cars have been rotary powered, but nothing against V8 RX's....
So everyone stop your bitching.
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he does what he does best.......wait he will go 3 wayzzz
07-27-08, 02:20 AM
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Actually, this forum is a rx-7 enthusiasts forum, not a rotary enthusiast forum.
And to the topic, rotary engine is efficiency is great for the volume, and when force induction comes to play are they rock. But here are the facts.
Modded Turbo 13b = Fast
Modded LSX = Fast
SC/Turbo LSX = FAST AS ****!
Modded Turbo 20b = FAST AS ****!
Car can go fast in the straits, or corners.. but depends on the car.. not the engine. So pointless saying my rotary rx-7 is faster then your LS2 rx-7 on a road course..
Hell a heavy 350v8 rx-7 will rape a rotary rx-7 if the rotary rx-7 is setup for drag on a road course.. its all car setup, not engine.
With all that said, who cares!! Just drive and have fun.
I think Andrew has the most say on LSX vs Rotary setup, being that he has owned both rotary and LS1 FC, both raced on a road course, and now currently swapping an LS1 on his perfectly running FD.
And for the record, all of my RX cars have been rotary powered, but nothing against V8 RX's....
So everyone stop your bitching.
And to the topic, rotary engine is efficiency is great for the volume, and when force induction comes to play are they rock. But here are the facts.
Modded Turbo 13b = Fast
Modded LSX = Fast
SC/Turbo LSX = FAST AS ****!
Modded Turbo 20b = FAST AS ****!
Car can go fast in the straits, or corners.. but depends on the car.. not the engine. So pointless saying my rotary rx-7 is faster then your LS2 rx-7 on a road course..
Hell a heavy 350v8 rx-7 will rape a rotary rx-7 if the rotary rx-7 is setup for drag on a road course.. its all car setup, not engine.
With all that said, who cares!! Just drive and have fun.
I think Andrew has the most say on LSX vs Rotary setup, being that he has owned both rotary and LS1 FC, both raced on a road course, and now currently swapping an LS1 on his perfectly running FD.
And for the record, all of my RX cars have been rotary powered, but nothing against V8 RX's....
So everyone stop your bitching.
Too many words being put into my mouth...
"So pointless saying my rotary rx-7 is faster then your LS2 rx-7 on a road course.."
I nvr said that, I said my rotary would stand a change on a road course, big difference. And correction, ultimately its driver skill that makes the deciding factor in a win with straight or road course. Thats what I'm referring to when I talk about a road course. And that comes from someone I know that came from a racing circuit in Japan that retired as a champion driving a FB with 100 hp. He's someone who is actually qualified to compare the two since he's raced with both. Even with a porsche, but he said nothin compared to the FB. He'd always take everyone on the turns he said, and the FB was the best one for that job. Ionno, maybe he's lying, but why would he...he hates Japanese cars now and drives a Suburban and Goldwing.
We all know Andrew knows his ****. I aint got nuttin against him. But I ain't gonna bow down to him either. But even tho my mom can be a bitch, I'd still die defending her if someone trys to call her a bitch. Some of us are biased when it comes to their rotary. I dgaf if the LS2500 can do the 1/4 mile in 2 seconds, we will still like our rotary's more. So this aint about which has more power, and I aint bitching, I started this thread to celebrate the rotary engine, (becuz this is a ******* rotary site), it's them that came in here to bash on it. And if it is a 'RX7" forum, wtf is their an old skool section.
But I dgaf ne more...im outie
07-27-08, 01:52 PM
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My honest view:
Putting a piston engine in an RX7 is no different than putting a Wankle in a Volkswagen (which was very old school popular), a boat, airplane, helicopter, or any other mode of transportation. You do it because you expect that it will improve the performance of your ground, water, air transportation or you do it just to see if you can. We all do what ever retro-fit we do as much because of the challenge to do it as much as for the expectations of the result. So, in truth, I admire the ingenuity and skills that go into putting an LS1 in an RX7 and make it look and operate like Mazda actually offered the LS1 as an option.
Further, I far more admire those cars where the owners did their homework, accumulate the parts, and at least hands on participated in creating their project cars. It's just as much (maybe more) about learning how to do the doing as achieving the done.
HOWEVER (steps onto soap box)
If Mazda had offered an RX7 with an option of either a Wankle or a Piston engine, then I would agree this site is more about the RX7 as a car than the Wankle engine in the car.
But they didn't, so it isn't. The RX7 IS the celebration of the Wankle engine, so by default so is this site.
This presents an odd situation no differently than someone wearing opposing team colors at a Oakland Raider game. So for owners of Oxymoronmobiles to complain that they need to defend themselves (which seems to be the primary situation) on this site is just plain silly.
My 2 cents. (steps off the soap box)
Putting a piston engine in an RX7 is no different than putting a Wankle in a Volkswagen (which was very old school popular), a boat, airplane, helicopter, or any other mode of transportation. You do it because you expect that it will improve the performance of your ground, water, air transportation or you do it just to see if you can. We all do what ever retro-fit we do as much because of the challenge to do it as much as for the expectations of the result. So, in truth, I admire the ingenuity and skills that go into putting an LS1 in an RX7 and make it look and operate like Mazda actually offered the LS1 as an option.
Further, I far more admire those cars where the owners did their homework, accumulate the parts, and at least hands on participated in creating their project cars. It's just as much (maybe more) about learning how to do the doing as achieving the done.
HOWEVER (steps onto soap box)
If Mazda had offered an RX7 with an option of either a Wankle or a Piston engine, then I would agree this site is more about the RX7 as a car than the Wankle engine in the car.
But they didn't, so it isn't. The RX7 IS the celebration of the Wankle engine, so by default so is this site.
This presents an odd situation no differently than someone wearing opposing team colors at a Oakland Raider game. So for owners of Oxymoronmobiles to complain that they need to defend themselves (which seems to be the primary situation) on this site is just plain silly.
My 2 cents. (steps off the soap box)
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07-27-08, 04:57 PM
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My honest view:
Putting a piston engine in an RX7 is no different than putting a Wankle in a Volkswagen (which was very old school popular), a boat, airplane, helicopter, or any other mode of transportation. You do it because you expect that it will improve the performance of your ground, water, air transportation or you do it just to see if you can. We all do what ever retro-fit we do as much because of the challenge to do it as much as for the expectations of the result. So, in truth, I admire the ingenuity and skills that go into putting an LS1 in an RX7 and make it look and operate like Mazda actually offered the LS1 as an option.
Further, I far more admire those cars where the owners did their homework, accumulate the parts, and at least hands on participated in creating their project cars. It's just as much (maybe more) about learning how to do the doing as achieving the done.
HOWEVER (steps onto soap box)
If Mazda had offered an RX7 with an option of either a Wankle or a Piston engine, then I would agree this site is more about the RX7 as a car than the Wankle engine in the car.
But they didn't, so it isn't. The RX7 IS the celebration of the Wankle engine, so by default so is this site.
This presents an odd situation no differently than someone wearing opposing team colors at a Oakland Raider game. So for owners of Oxymoronmobiles to complain that they need to defend themselves (which seems to be the primary situation) on this site is just plain silly.
My 2 cents. (steps off the soap box)
Putting a piston engine in an RX7 is no different than putting a Wankle in a Volkswagen (which was very old school popular), a boat, airplane, helicopter, or any other mode of transportation. You do it because you expect that it will improve the performance of your ground, water, air transportation or you do it just to see if you can. We all do what ever retro-fit we do as much because of the challenge to do it as much as for the expectations of the result. So, in truth, I admire the ingenuity and skills that go into putting an LS1 in an RX7 and make it look and operate like Mazda actually offered the LS1 as an option.
Further, I far more admire those cars where the owners did their homework, accumulate the parts, and at least hands on participated in creating their project cars. It's just as much (maybe more) about learning how to do the doing as achieving the done.
HOWEVER (steps onto soap box)
If Mazda had offered an RX7 with an option of either a Wankle or a Piston engine, then I would agree this site is more about the RX7 as a car than the Wankle engine in the car.
But they didn't, so it isn't. The RX7 IS the celebration of the Wankle engine, so by default so is this site.
This presents an odd situation no differently than someone wearing opposing team colors at a Oakland Raider game. So for owners of Oxymoronmobiles to complain that they need to defend themselves (which seems to be the primary situation) on this site is just plain silly.
My 2 cents. (steps off the soap box)
I agree with you.
It's always the guys with LS1's that come in on a thread and start ****. You don't see me going over to the engine swap forum and start **** up saying the rotary is better blah blah.
07-27-08, 05:04 PM
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ROTARY, pistons, Jet egines.. its all fun!
and share the same purposes!,
its like saying its wrong for a mexican to get married to a black chick or a asain guy cant have kids with white chick, cuz there not the same..
to each there own...
whether if they want a ROTARY(MY PICK) or a Piston in there car, its the owners choice...
if ppl wanna gloat bout it, be my guest.. but who cares,
this forum is just for kiks...
and if ppl really wanna get into it,, take to the tech section or some were else on the forum,
the west forum is nothing but a joke and a play ground for post ******!!
I stole hozzmans 2 cents!(YOU GOT JACKED NIKKA)!
and share the same purposes!,
its like saying its wrong for a mexican to get married to a black chick or a asain guy cant have kids with white chick, cuz there not the same..
to each there own...
whether if they want a ROTARY(MY PICK) or a Piston in there car, its the owners choice...
if ppl wanna gloat bout it, be my guest.. but who cares,
this forum is just for kiks...
and if ppl really wanna get into it,, take to the tech section or some were else on the forum,
the west forum is nothing but a joke and a play ground for post ******!!
I stole hozzmans 2 cents!(YOU GOT JACKED NIKKA)!
Nope
07-27-08, 06:16 PM
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My honest view:
Putting a piston engine in an RX7 is no different than putting a Wankle in a Volkswagen (which was very old school popular), a boat, airplane, helicopter, or any other mode of transportation. You do it because you expect that it will improve the performance of your ground, water, air transportation or you do it just to see if you can. We all do what ever retro-fit we do as much because of the challenge to do it as much as for the expectations of the result. So, in truth, I admire the ingenuity and skills that go into putting an LS1 in an RX7 and make it look and operate like Mazda actually offered the LS1 as an option.
Further, I far more admire those cars where the owners did their homework, accumulate the parts, and at least hands on participated in creating their project cars. It's just as much (maybe more) about learning how to do the doing as achieving the done.
HOWEVER (steps onto soap box)
If Mazda had offered an RX7 with an option of either a Wankle or a Piston engine, then I would agree this site is more about the RX7 as a car than the Wankle engine in the car.
But they didn't, so it isn't. The RX7 IS the celebration of the Wankle engine, so by default so is this site.
This presents an odd situation no differently than someone wearing opposing team colors at a Oakland Raider game. So for owners of Oxymoronmobiles to complain that they need to defend themselves (which seems to be the primary situation) on this site is just plain silly.
My 2 cents. (steps off the soap box)
Putting a piston engine in an RX7 is no different than putting a Wankle in a Volkswagen (which was very old school popular), a boat, airplane, helicopter, or any other mode of transportation. You do it because you expect that it will improve the performance of your ground, water, air transportation or you do it just to see if you can. We all do what ever retro-fit we do as much because of the challenge to do it as much as for the expectations of the result. So, in truth, I admire the ingenuity and skills that go into putting an LS1 in an RX7 and make it look and operate like Mazda actually offered the LS1 as an option.
Further, I far more admire those cars where the owners did their homework, accumulate the parts, and at least hands on participated in creating their project cars. It's just as much (maybe more) about learning how to do the doing as achieving the done.
HOWEVER (steps onto soap box)
If Mazda had offered an RX7 with an option of either a Wankle or a Piston engine, then I would agree this site is more about the RX7 as a car than the Wankle engine in the car.
But they didn't, so it isn't. The RX7 IS the celebration of the Wankle engine, so by default so is this site.
This presents an odd situation no differently than someone wearing opposing team colors at a Oakland Raider game. So for owners of Oxymoronmobiles to complain that they need to defend themselves (which seems to be the primary situation) on this site is just plain silly.
My 2 cents. (steps off the soap box)
Lol. I converted Hozzman into a piston lover! Just admit it.
As for the rest of you
I'll type up a proper response to your statements. Give me a short while.
^^^^