Rotary mechanic in Vegas?
03-08-12, 09:21 AM
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[QUOTE=Kolokoi;11008779]i'll take my car to Rotary Evolution (Karack/Ben) built my motor and speaking of which my car is at his shop as we speak. He's shop is legit and alot of people can vouch for his work. don't let a customer fool you from his bad experience with Karack.[/QUOTE/]
You say he built your "motor"...but the car is still at his shop...?
How long does it take to put it in...two hours give or take a month? SMH...
You say he built your "motor"...but the car is still at his shop...?
How long does it take to put it in...two hours give or take a month? SMH...
03-08-12, 10:15 AM
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took 2 years to build the motor.
will take 2 more to get it going.
(look up the word faceatious)
and this isn't a motor you drop into a gimp beat up drift car, it's going to be a 700whp show car. maybe 4 hours to drop it in versus 2.
will take 2 more to get it going.
(look up the word faceatious)
and this isn't a motor you drop into a gimp beat up drift car, it's going to be a 700whp show car. maybe 4 hours to drop it in versus 2.
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03-08-12, 05:45 PM
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steve did lose a bunch of customers when he had a shop in Glendora because of timeframes. I know of bunch of people that stop giving him business because planned builds were never done. I know too many people off the top of my head. Don't get me wrong, Steves dad "Wolf" did great work they just lagged and made many customers just pick up their cars and leave. Let alone costs were more. Big reason why he started driving to Vegas and doing work, he said he was getting more business out there cause there werent many shops so a lot of people came to him and sometimes a guy named matt would go with him and help out. The last i remember is that his dad got very sick and was in the hospital so it was mainly steve going to vegas. They did quality work starting from the Glendora location "R&R", but idk what their deal was. Might have been all the weed they smoked that slowed them down, idk if that an excuse but I remember going over there occasionally and smoking tons of weed with them. I can give a **** about them now because they did too many of my friends dirty.
03-08-12, 11:02 PM
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The reason why the car is at his shop was because i finally decided to finish the project. its the first time that the whole car is at ben's shop. I had to take care alot of personal issues with family members and so on. I know ben can back up his work and i seen it first hand when he built my motor meaning i was there when he put the motor together. and on yeah 4 years on collecting parts,alot of reseaching, getting a 10pt rollcage, 2k paint job. and all the necessary parts so when i take it to ben's shop by the time it will be running. I fully invested alot of money into this car. sorry i don't have that much money to dump into it in a year or so.. thats why 4 long years it took............
by the way this car was a rolling chasis meaning no fendersxwindshield, and tires just bare shell.
look at slammedblk7 took him almost 4 years on his FC 13b RE...... to be running.
and the other reason it took me that long is because of money
by the way this car was a rolling chasis meaning no fendersxwindshield, and tires just bare shell.
look at slammedblk7 took him almost 4 years on his FC 13b RE...... to be running.
and the other reason it took me that long is because of money
03-09-12, 11:00 AM
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My problem is with his Dad Wolf aka DIck....which is no longer in the picture.
Dick claimed the engine he built for me was going to be a "Horny Camaro".
Meaning it was going to be fast. That's the low life c*ck sucker who took my money and sold a story of ceramic seals, High comp rotors etc etc.
Long story short: The engine that Dick built for me was garbage!
Steve had to source 2 housings, 3 irons, and 2 rotors to get my engine "dependable". The ceramic seals I paid for turned out to be a 2 piece race seal from Atkins, with mix matched corner seals.
You cant hold a man accountable for what another man does...even if it is his father!
This is the same time I was going through my nightmare. WE are among the MANY who have been persuaded into the wolfs trap. Believe it or not, That old sack of **** used to be REAL, and do REAL work...Somewhere along the line things took a turn for the Dollar bills and a complete dis-regard for the customer. And I wasnt just any old customer...I spent alot of time there...Wouldnt have guessed this would be the outcome...
You live and you learn though...
The reason why the car is at his shop was because i finally decided to finish the project. its the first time that the whole car is at ben's shop. I had to take care alot of personal issues with family members and so on. I know ben can back up his work and i seen it first hand when he built my motor meaning i was there when he put the motor together. and on yeah 4 years on collecting parts,alot of reseaching, getting a 10pt rollcage, 2k paint job. and all the necessary parts so when i take it to ben's shop by the time it will be running. I fully invested alot of money into this car. sorry i don't have that much money to dump into it in a year or so.. thats why 4 long years it took............
by the way this car was a rolling chasis meaning no fendersxwindshield, and tires just bare shell.
look at slammedblk7 took him almost 4 years on his FC 13b RE...... to be running.
and the other reason it took me that long is because of money
by the way this car was a rolling chasis meaning no fendersxwindshield, and tires just bare shell.
look at slammedblk7 took him almost 4 years on his FC 13b RE...... to be running.
and the other reason it took me that long is because of money
03-09-12, 11:23 AM
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all i know is if you have to leave a booming area like LA with tons of rotary work to go to the desert where there is no rotary support for business, something doesn't sound right. the community here is still skittish, after getting ripped off so many times by a number of different people. it's bad, bad to the point that i don't think the area could ever really even support a single shop, i tried to lay down the groundwork but it's progressing too slowly and may never work.
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03-10-12, 04:19 PM
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I normally don't bother posting or replying but when a picture is attempted to be drawn by those that frankly do not know I will attempt to clarify
No the community in Vegas has been burned by every so called biz therefore leading us to be more self sufficient
Examples .... engine rebuilds (perhaps a couple months old) that fail and replacement engine can take upwards of a year to be taken care of (mind you N/A) or cars that have had work on them such as turbo upgrades and then are driving for months without a needed tune ..... and not by choice of the car owner
So I will repeat myself to the fellow that started the thread that the vast majority of us repair or mod our own vehicles and/or help others
No the community in Vegas has been burned by every so called biz therefore leading us to be more self sufficient
Examples .... engine rebuilds (perhaps a couple months old) that fail and replacement engine can take upwards of a year to be taken care of (mind you N/A) or cars that have had work on them such as turbo upgrades and then are driving for months without a needed tune ..... and not by choice of the car owner
So I will repeat myself to the fellow that started the thread that the vast majority of us repair or mod our own vehicles and/or help others
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03-10-12, 04:35 PM
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and soon you won't even have the option so.. yeah Jason's engine took a bit to complete but there were no questions asked in the warranty claim. out of pocket i re-ported the replacement TII rotor housings, lapped the irons and resurfaced the rotor housings free of charge, not to mention cost of the reseal kit which is another $125 loss.
waiting on a tune is common also, not sure what you expect there.
waiting on a tune is common also, not sure what you expect there.
03-10-12, 04:55 PM
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Wow ... I did not name any names as to who had work done or did the work
As far as the engine you mentioned it let loose in front of us including yourself who had made a super rare appearance at a meet and the costs well thats part of doing biz. This was also his daily driver not a weekend toy. So time was an issue.
We (the company I am with) if a engine grenades we are expected to have another the next if not sooner ...... and no we don't supply rotories we sell engines with a lot more parts in them therefore increasing the chance of something going wrong and they do
Regarding untuned engines, if it blows who's responsibilty is that, the owner of the mechanic?
But if I am being asked, I don't know of any shop that works on the time table I would expect so I don't bother. It would easy to just had someone cash to take of things. I am not as young as I use to be nor to have tons of free time. But I want to drive my toy not have it collecting dust at anyones shop.
Your the bussiness man I have simple stated the facts and perceptions as I hear them with that perhaps you or your bussiness can benefit from. Do with it what you wish
yours truley,
someone that has been in the industry 25 years
As far as the engine you mentioned it let loose in front of us including yourself who had made a super rare appearance at a meet and the costs well thats part of doing biz. This was also his daily driver not a weekend toy. So time was an issue.
We (the company I am with) if a engine grenades we are expected to have another the next if not sooner ...... and no we don't supply rotories we sell engines with a lot more parts in them therefore increasing the chance of something going wrong and they do
Regarding untuned engines, if it blows who's responsibilty is that, the owner of the mechanic?
But if I am being asked, I don't know of any shop that works on the time table I would expect so I don't bother. It would easy to just had someone cash to take of things. I am not as young as I use to be nor to have tons of free time. But I want to drive my toy not have it collecting dust at anyones shop.
Your the bussiness man I have simple stated the facts and perceptions as I hear them with that perhaps you or your bussiness can benefit from. Do with it what you wish
yours truley,
someone that has been in the industry 25 years
03-10-12, 06:02 PM
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yes i know Jason's was his daily driver and he got another good cheap TII which i tried to help him with. knowing what i know now i would never have attempted to open a rotary shop in vegas, screwed you on the FB or tried to shuffle things around to try and make it a non profit organization just in order to help people out in the valley hoping it would one day work into something more. it took Jason nearly 3 months or more to find the S5 n/a rotor(i didn't have any spares on the shelf as those rotors are rather difficult to get, also around the same time he got the TII), that and the housing were the only stipulation to the rebuild as i couldn't find any reason for the failure.
course i have a REPU sitting here with no title(has been wasting space for nearly 5 years now), the person who eventually helped you was the one i got the truck from. i never knew it would be an issue as he had the bill of sale, i let him know the situation of yours as he has the most experience with it. it got resolved but far too long later, i know you will never forgive me for it though even though i am sorry.
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03-10-12, 06:20 PM
#38
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If safety measures are in place and someone were to undo then blame fully lays on them
that was 2 years and a lesson learned.
and nothing to do with the posts prior
This thread went way off topic with no one ever asking the fellow that posted what was wrong or what he needed ... may have just been a matter of answering a couple of questions or looking at something
Also I'll add rather recently that someone else built an engine for someone else locally and I beleive that blew in two to three months resulting in me towing it back into town from 30 to 40 miles out. For those reading i have an F350 & trailer and tow the locals for fuel cost it is by no means a bussiness nor am turning some kind of profit it's just one of the things I do for our club members.
As I said take things as you wish, but if soemthing is not working or broke but the potential is there then change may be needed but only you can make such decisions.
that was 2 years and a lesson learned.
and nothing to do with the posts prior
This thread went way off topic with no one ever asking the fellow that posted what was wrong or what he needed ... may have just been a matter of answering a couple of questions or looking at something
Also I'll add rather recently that someone else built an engine for someone else locally and I beleive that blew in two to three months resulting in me towing it back into town from 30 to 40 miles out. For those reading i have an F350 & trailer and tow the locals for fuel cost it is by no means a bussiness nor am turning some kind of profit it's just one of the things I do for our club members.
As I said take things as you wish, but if soemthing is not working or broke but the potential is there then change may be needed but only you can make such decisions.
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03-10-12, 06:29 PM
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only built 4 engines for locals so i don't know anything about that one, unless everything is going to be blamed on me that happens locally.
i do have to treat this as a job, even attempt to make a profit off it or i won't have a home to go home to. my gf already took on a second job and i took on the extra 2 days a week so that we could afford to still make it work. i hear at least once a week complaints about not making money, it's eventually rotted away my will to try and make it work out somehow. i don't blame her.
the only decision i could make would be to focus on the better paying jobs and hope they continue in and not schedule anything that does not at least pull in a regular paycheck each day. no more calls or texts at 9pm on regular workdays, or phone consultations, web support, offsite repairs without charging mileage and time to and from, etc, etc.
i do have to treat this as a job, even attempt to make a profit off it or i won't have a home to go home to. my gf already took on a second job and i took on the extra 2 days a week so that we could afford to still make it work. i hear at least once a week complaints about not making money, it's eventually rotted away my will to try and make it work out somehow. i don't blame her.
the only decision i could make would be to focus on the better paying jobs and hope they continue in and not schedule anything that does not at least pull in a regular paycheck each day. no more calls or texts at 9pm on regular workdays, or phone consultations, web support, offsite repairs without charging mileage and time to and from, etc, etc.
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03-10-12, 07:19 PM
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only built 4 engines for locals so i don't know anything about that one, unless everything is going to be blamed on me that happens locally.i do have to treat this as a job, even attempt to make a profit off it or i won't have a home to go home to. my gf already took on a second job and i took on the extra 2 days a week so that we could afford to still make it work. i hear at least once a week complaints about not making money, it's eventually rotted away my will to try and make it work out somehow. i don't blame her.
the only decision i could make would be to focus on the better paying jobs and hope they continue in and not schedule anything that does not at least pull in a regular paycheck each day. no more calls or texts at 9pm on regular workdays, or phone consultations, web support, offsite repairs without charging mileage and time to and from, etc, etc.
the only decision i could make would be to focus on the better paying jobs and hope they continue in and not schedule anything that does not at least pull in a regular paycheck each day. no more calls or texts at 9pm on regular workdays, or phone consultations, web support, offsite repairs without charging mileage and time to and from, etc, etc.
As far as when you answers phone calls and texts your singing to the wrong choir.
Your doing it with $ being the goal do what you have to do
Myself and someone else recommened some time back not being exclusive to rotories and have some bread and butter jobs coming in. You decided against that
Regarding your g/f well I have listened to my wife for two years
I leave it at that
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03-10-12, 07:54 PM
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i'll finish up everything i have so don't worry, after that since we are going to be out of contract on our phones and looking at different companies i figure i'll pick up a different number and give it to a few people so that i can finally have some peace from rotaries aside from my own.
maybe i'll even finish the 4 rotor before the shop is cleared out.
maybe i'll even finish the 4 rotor before the shop is cleared out.
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03-17-12, 11:27 AM
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Intresten talk about me where do i start well first off karack i didnt go to vegas becouse i was slow in cali im always bizzy bud i went to vegas to help chris brown and he begged me for 2 years priror to do so and as of last week i will no longer be helping chris due to his lack of comunication and his personal issues i cant deal with anymore and the thing is i liked the peeps i met out there witch made it fun good peeps in vegas as far as my dutys at r&r yes peeps were burnt and not treated right i did what i could or what i was allowed to do that wouldnt upset my dad i had some say but not it all my dad didnt care about a good product just cared if it worked i hated that as a yung man i got to see my friends excell while i didnt couse of the family biz it was his ways i was just trying to please my father i remember the upset peeps and how it streessed me out couse i knew it would come back to haunt me not him then he got sick i did what i could to help but even after my fathers attitude got wores at this time i hate to stop going to vegas and lost custys there to due to not being there to serve them and chris didnt help either whith his attitude towards peeps i sit here and think at times i know im good but i just need to get away from these clouds im under so to all that might hate me im so sorry i just want to make things right and start my new biz basicly start over im not a bad guy i get mad at times and say things i dont mean out of anger but really i care about my work and makin peeps happy to dave and others im sorry man i mean it sorry for the typos r&r was run by my dad not me it was hard to deal with and i did for way to long same for chris i have bad times just like everyone eles and im willing to try to make things right
03-17-12, 11:35 AM
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Sorry to hear you closen shop karack dont give up man i know you do good work the rotary game is sometimes harsh i did vegas for over 3 years the work is out there but i am done out there other than a couple peeps i will take care of look we are all in the same game why not help eachother if we could other than bicker over the past i am opening a shop out here and starting over do it my way and nobody eles and if i fall then at least i tried and its all on me i wish you luck man vegas is yours take it and kill it out there theres money to be made in sin city
03-18-12, 12:15 PM
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need a reliable home for the rotary.
Everyone already knows how corrupt the scene is..
Too many fakers out there....or crooks (whichever you prefer).
I believe this man is here to shine,
and build some reliable engines for his customers...
Rotary Labs coming soon....
Stay tuned
03-19-12, 12:39 PM
#48
best of luck to you, and i mean that.
this is probably the most difficult time to start in opening a rotary shop but LA/northern california are about your best shot at getting one going. northern california is really hurting for a decent priced shop that does decent work, there is already a number of options down in the socal area.
even the rotary owners have started showing their teeth, probably after getting burned by others. i just can't deal with that after working 65 hours, 7 days a week.
this is probably the most difficult time to start in opening a rotary shop but LA/northern california are about your best shot at getting one going. northern california is really hurting for a decent priced shop that does decent work, there is already a number of options down in the socal area.
even the rotary owners have started showing their teeth, probably after getting burned by others. i just can't deal with that after working 65 hours, 7 days a week.
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