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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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Are both those fuses good? What exactly happens when you crack? You said you replaced the plugs, where the old ones cover in fuel?
Both are good. Nothing happens when i try to crank it. Old plugs had a bit of carbon buildup, but not alot. Same symptoms before and after I Un-flooded and replaced plugs.

It will kind of start up when I spray starter fluid into the air intake, but will die immediately when I give it a little bit of gas as soon as it starts to rotate around 2k rpm.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 01:10 AM
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Yes you should hear the fuel pump prime before you try to start it. And posts don't count in the West Section because there are too many post ******. (Myself included :P)

If you were closer I could come out and help.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SmogSUX
Yes you should hear the fuel pump prime before you try to start it.
Would it not want to start, or prime, because the pump is dead?

The people said they replaced it, but the dust back there looks like its 24 years old.

Anyone have one?


Edit: previous owner also mentioned that the car died often if 65+ MPH was reached

My friends and I thought about the injectors being shot, or my throttle body being clogged, but now that i've seen that the fuel pump doesnt even look like it has been touched since the car left the factory floor... I have other thoughts.

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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 03:31 AM
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Fuel pump does not turn on unless the engine is on (airflow through AFM) or the yellow test connector located near the pressure sensor is jumped and the key switched to the on position. I'd verify that your pump works before moving forward.

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lol my bad mervin...but we should have a meet at my place we can have a little bbq and maybe drink if ya want... it would be nice to have alot of 7's in the court
The guys wanted to have a BBQ ha ha maybe we should have it at your place lol
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 03:32 AM
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mutaku
Fuel pump does not turn on unless the engine is on (airflow through AFM) or the yellow test connector located near the pressure sensor is jumped and the key switched to the on position. I'd verify that your pump works before moving forward.



The guys wanted to have a BBQ ha ha maybe we should have it at your place lol
yea i would love to have a bbq at my place just text me or call me when ya want to do it...
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutaku
Fuel pump does not turn on unless the engine is on (airflow through AFM) or the yellow test connector located near the pressure sensor is jumped and the key switched to the on position. I'd verify that your pump works before moving forward.
I dont hear anything. Any connections I should check?
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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Fuel pump fuse.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SmogSUX
Fuel pump fuse.
Where is thet?

Cant find anything labeled fuel pump fuse.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamFervor'sSavannah
Where is thet?

Cant find anything labeled fuel pump fuse.


Unless its the EGI Comp.

Then it must be a line between the fuel pump and the fuses.

What would be the symptoms of a fried ECU?

Would the injectors/fuel pump/spark plugs not work?

Cause my spark plugs have spark, but i dont hear my fuel pump, so i am not sure if the injectors are working either.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 11:58 PM
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Are the engine fuses all good? (ones in the bay.)
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mutaku
Are the engine fuses all good? (ones in the bay.)
100%

Even the ones in the cabin.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutaku
Are the engine fuses all good? (ones in the bay.)
If the relay were toasted would that be the problem?

Is that even possible?

Going to test a new fuel pump, if not i'll get back with you guys.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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Then there either the pump is bad or there is a break in the wire feeding the pump.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutaku
Then there either the pump is bad or there is a break in the wire feeding the pump.
Is there any way i can try and jump the fuel pump to see if it works?

Also, where are the wires FROM the pump, to the connection point on the strut tower, to where they connect up in the front? I know they run under the carpet somewhere, but where exactly do they end up? I have a Haynes manual, which has NO information, so i'm stumbling around in the dark.

I'm also wondering... what would be the most logical explanation for the car just "Dying?". He said it just stalled out. My finger points to fuel problem...

Edit: tried jumping the fuel pump with the yellow connectors next to the AFM in the bay, turned to on, nothing.

All that is left are Wires, and the Fuel Pump itself...

I ruled out that I may have fried the ECU by connecting jumper cables correctly, because my spark plugs fire, and all my lights turn on etc.

He said it just Quit on him, which really makes me think that the pump just decided to die? Possibly?

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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamFervor'sSavannah
Is there any way i can try and jump the fuel pump to see if it works?

Also, where are the wires FROM the pump, to the connection point on the strut tower, to where they connect up in the front? I know they run under the carpet somewhere, but where exactly do they end up? I have a Haynes manual, which has NO information, so i'm stumbling around in the dark.

I'm also wondering... what would be the most logical explanation for the car just "Dying?". He said it just stalled out. My finger points to fuel problem...

Edit: tried jumping the fuel pump with the yellow connectors next to the AFM in the bay, turned to on, nothing.

All that is left are Wires, and the Fuel Pump itself...

I ruled out that I may have fried the ECU by connecting jumper cables correctly, because my spark plugs fire, and all my lights turn on etc.

He said it just Quit on him, which really makes me think that the pump just decided to die? Possibly?
You can take the pump out and jump the wires to a battery. Just be careful not to light yourself on fire lol.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutaku
You can take the pump out and jump the wires to a battery. Just be careful not to light yourself on fire lol.
+ Connection to the +

Ground to -

Gloves? Check.

Feedback tomorrow morning.

Should I use my car battery or a 9v?
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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K, I pulled the pump and it was the wires TO the pump from the top of the pump, so i replaced those.

Now. My pump wont run if it does not have that little wire with the 10amp fuse between that and the 15 amp fuse next to the kick panel plugged in. AND, it runs all the time now. And since i've replaced the wires, my tachometer does not show any movement from the engine.

Ideas?
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Anyone know why i still cant edit?

Anyway, I fixed the problem, Car runs and drives now. It was my fuel pump wires UNDER the pump cover. My positive and Neg. were rusted and not fun. Also the wire from the fuel pump to the fuse box was plugged into the wrong slot. I did some guessing and placed it into the lower 7.5 amp fuse and everything checks out ok!

Thanks for the help and input guys!
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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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you can only edit for 30 mins after your initial post so you post at 4:30 you can edit up until 5 you get it?
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