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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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i have a problem

well here it is. im in the air force and i live in mississippi. my rx7 is in san diego. it has a apex seal that is leaking oil into the engine. i believe it is the second rotor. should i rebuild? buy a new engine like the 20b. just keep in mind im trying to do this on a buget. i have plenty of time. and im open to any ideas u guys have. thanks.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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if your able to afford a 20b (properly done with full fuel management) then definately the 20b
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ReeceRx788
well here it is. im in the air force and i live in mississippi. my rx7 is in san diego. it has a apex seal that is leaking oil into the engine. i believe it is the second rotor. should i rebuild? buy a new engine like the 20b. just keep in mind im trying to do this on a buget. i have plenty of time. and im open to any ideas u guys have. thanks.
Apex seals don't leak lol. A 20b cost is probably at 10k minimum without a rebuild and you doing absolutely everything, just rebuild your 13b if you dont have the cashola or knowledge.
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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A 20b cost is probably at 10k minimum
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by d0 Luck
Whats so funny? never broken down pricing?

20b-3500 japan2l1
Mounts-150
Flywheel-400
Clutch-300
Haltech-1500 W/everything
Custom Exhaust-300
Home made intercooler-700ish
Oil cooler lines-200
Summit or Jegs rad w/custom mounts-300
Fuel Misc-1000

Now thats ~8350, no rebuild, he does everything himself with whatever misc things he'll do himself and doing the whole swap, so whats so funny?
Shoot even ReTed says ~10k minimum http://fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/COSMO/20b.html
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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a 20B is an expensive project, more expensive than most think.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Apex seals don't leak lol. A 20b cost is probably at 10k minimum without a rebuild and you doing absolutely everything, just rebuild your 13b if you dont have the cashola or knowledge.
god damn it. something is wrong with my car. and now im clueless. it idles at 800 rpms. and each time i let off the accel a nice white cloud comes out the back. and if i dont let it run at least 3 mins after a drive it wont start up again. its embrassing. i thought at first it was a crack exhast manifold.

if anyone can help thanks.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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What color is the smoke?????
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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white. i think that means oil or water not to sure. i know white smoke is better than black.lol.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Most likely coolant seals.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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so wait i dont need a new engine?
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ReeceRx788
so wait i dont need a new engine?
You can rebuild your existing one.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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how much does it cost to replace the coolent seals?
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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Its basically an engine overhaul you have to tear the motor completely apart, consider it a rebuild and you might as well change out your other seals in there too, so your motor IS blown and needs to be rebuilt.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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how much will it cost if i dont do any of the work?
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Now that depends on who does it, some places charge more than others and depending on what you want replaced.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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i dont know of any places that work on rotarys. do u know of any? and if im going to get it rebuilt by someone. (i dont even know what a rebuild is.) its it just replacing seals or parts or both? and how much is it for what ur talking about. the most and the least? im sorry if this is asking too much. thanks for help.
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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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1) Watch it..."white smoke" could mean oil, gas, or coolant.
You need to SMELL it to confirm.
Do a compression test first to check engine condition.
If you're not losing coolant and the engine is overheating, I doubt it's the coolant seals.

2) Dave Gibson and the fc3s.ORG / SMP crew are in SD???


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Old Dec 5, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ReeceRx788
i dont know of any places that work on rotarys. do u know of any? and if im going to get it rebuilt by someone. (i dont even know what a rebuild is.) its it just replacing seals or parts or both? and how much is it for what ur talking about. the most and the least? im sorry if this is asking too much. thanks for help.
send me a PM ill send you in the right direction for a local guy that is really REALLY good with rotaries. thats all he works on. where in SD are you?
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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spring valley. thanks
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
1) Watch it..."white smoke" could mean oil, gas, or coolant.
You need to SMELL it to confirm.
Do a compression test first to check engine condition.
If you're not losing coolant and the engine is overheating, I doubt it's the coolant seals.

2) Dave Gibson and the fc3s.ORG / SMP crew are in SD???


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whats the difference in smell that im looking for? where do i go to get a compression test done? local mazda dealer? (looking for a cheaper way tho.)
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 02:19 AM
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a 20B is an expensive project, more expensive than most think.
this is true.
but i'm gonna do one and give myself a $5k budget just for ***** n' giggles
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewdruiz
Whats so funny? never broken down pricing?

20b-3500 japan2l1
Mounts-150
Flywheel-400
Clutch-300
Haltech-1500 W/everything
Custom Exhaust-300
Home made intercooler-700ish
Oil cooler lines-200
Summit or Jegs rad w/custom mounts-300
Fuel Misc-1000

Now thats ~8350, no rebuild, he does everything himself with whatever misc things he'll do himself and doing the whole swap, so whats so funny?
Shoot even ReTed says ~10k minimum http://fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/COSMO/20b.html
of course min of 10k you added all this but forgot to add sub fram got to be change thats 500 for 20b tunning time is $120 hr and its not going to be one hr of tune and it is a can of warm that you are opening if you dont know them well power is not much diffrent then a 13b you could get 800whp on a 13b so work with what you got
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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of course min of 10k you added all this but forgot to add sub fram got to be change thats 500 for 20b tunning time is $120 hr and its not going to be one hr of tune and it is a can of warm that you are opening if you dont know them well power is not much diffrent then a 13b you could get 800whp on a 13b so work with what you got
What subframe change? you use the stock subframe on a fc, just custom mounts ~150, and i said assuming he does EVERYTHING himself, you can see i said that right there.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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imma get it done for less than 5k, watch

i got the car last night
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