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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Hippies are at it again: YEARLY SMOG TESTS

California Proposes ANNUAL Emissions Tests for
Vehicles 15-Years Old and Older

Pre-1976 Vehicles Would Continue to be Exempt From Smog Check

Enthusiasts in California are rallying against legislation that has been introduced in the State Assembly by Assemblyman Dave Jones to require annual Smog check inspections for vehicles 15-years old and older. In addition, the bill would direct funds generated through the additional inspection fees to be deposited into an account which can be used to scrap older cars. The bill has been referred to the Assembly Transportation Committee for consideration.
The measure represents another attempt by California legislators and regulators to scapegoat older cars for air quality deficiencies. In 2004, despite objections from the vehicle hobby community, California repealed its rolling emissions-test exemption for vehicles 30 years old and older and replaced it with a law requiring the lifetime testing of all 1976 and newer model-year vehicles.

“Under this year’s bill, pre-1976 vehicles would continue to be exempt from Smog Check”, said Steve McDonald, SEMA Vice President of Government Affairs. “However, vehicles 15 years old and older - currently 1976 through 1992 - that are not currently exempt would move from a biennial test to annual tests with the clear intent of moving them into the scrappage program.”

Sponsors of the legislation ignore the fact that vehicles 15-years old and older still constitute a small portion of the overall vehicle population and are a poor source from which to look for emissions reduction. Legislators are also ignoring the fact that classic vehicles are overwhelmingly well-maintained and infrequently driven.

“Implementing an annual test would not only increase the cost to the vehicle owner, it would also give the state more opportunities to lure these vehicles into retirement,” added McDonald.

Recently, San Joaquin Valley Air Pollution Control District released an updated smog plan that calls for scrapping 30,000 passenger cars, five times the number previously planned. Scrappage programs, widely rejected by other states as an ineffective means of cleaning the air, accelerate the normal demise of vehicles through the purchase of older cars which are then typically crushed into blocks of scrap metal.
“By virtue of these scrappage programs, the vehicle hobby risks the loss of potential collector cars and parts forever that could have been used in a project,” commented SAN Director Jason Tolleson.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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California Introduces Bill to Require ANNUAL Emissions Tests
for Vehicles 15-Years Old and Older

Here we go again! Legislation (A.B. 616) has been introduced in the California Assembly by Assemblyman Dave Jones to require annual Smog check inspections for vehicles 15-years old and older. The bill would also require that funds generated through the additional inspection fees be deposited into an account which can be used to scrap older cars. You may recall that in 2004 a new law was enacted in California to require the lifetime testing of all 1976 and newer model-year vehicles. Pre-1976 motor vehicles would remain exempt under A.B. 616. The bill has been referred to the Assembly Transportation Committee.
We Urge You to Contact Assemblyman Jones and members of the Assembly Transportation Committee (List Below) Immediately to Oppose A.B. 616


  • A.B. 616 ignores the minimal impact vintage cars have on air quality.



  • A.B. 616 could entice vintage car owners into allowing these vehicles to be scrapped.



  • A.B. 616 ignores the fact that vehicles 15-years old and older still constitute a small portion of the overall vehicle population and are a poor source from which to look for emissions reduction.



  • A.B. 616 ignores the fact that classic vehicles are overwhelmingly well-maintained and infrequently driven.



  • A.B. 616 would increase costs by creating an annual inspection fee for owners of these vehicles.



  • A.B. 616 represents another attempt by California legislators and regulators to scapegoat older cars.
Please contact members of the California Assembly Transportation Committee immediately by phone, fax or e-mail to request their opposition to A.B. 616.
Please e-mail a copy of your letter to stevem@sema.org. Thank you for your assistance.


Assembly Transportation Committee


Pedro Nava, Chair
Telephone: (916) 319-2035
Fax: (916) 319-2135
Email: Assemblymember.nava@assembly.ca.gov


Michael D. Duvall, Vice-Chair
Telephone: (916) 319-2072
Fax: (916) 319-2172
Email: Assemblymember.Duvall@assembly.ca.gov



Wilma Amina Carter
Telephone: (916) 319-2062
Fax: (916) 319-2162
Email: Assemblymember.Carter@assembly.ca.gov


Mike DeSaulnier
Telephone: (916) 319-2011
Fax: (916) 319-2111
Email: Assemblymember.DeSaulnier@assembly.ca.gov


Cathleen Galgiani
Tel: (916) 319-2017
Fax: (916) 319-2117
Email: Assemblymember.Galgiani@assembly.ca.gov


Martin Garrick

Telephone: (916) 319-2074
Fax: (916) 319-2174
Email: Assemblymember.Garrick@assembly.ca.gov


Shirley Horton

Telephone: (916) 319-2078
Email: Assemblymember.Shirley.Horton@assembly.ca.gov


Guy S. Houston
Telephone: (916) 319-2015
Fax: (916) 319-2115
Email: Assemblymember.Houston@assembly.ca.gov


Bob Huff
Telephone: (916) 319-2060
Fax: (916) 319-2160
Email: assemblymember.huff@assembly.ca.gov


Betty Karnette
Telephone: (916) 319-2054
Email: Assemblymember.Karnette@assembly.ca.gov


Anthony J. Portantino
Telephone: (916) 319-2044
Fax: (916) 319-2144
Email: assemblymember.Portantino@assembly.ca.gov


Ira Ruskin
Telephone: (916) 319 - 2021
Fax: (916) 319 – 2121
Email: Assemblymember.Ruskin@assembly.ca.gov


Jose Solorio
Telephone: (916) 319-2069
Fax: (916) 319-2169


Nell Soto
Telephone: (916) 319-2061
Fax: (916) 319-2161
Email: Assemblymember.Soto@assembly.ca.gov

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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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hehe, I sent Dave Jones a little love note.

Basically, I just reminded him that California's the birthplace of hot rodding and customizing cars in general, and he's alienating a TON of his constituents with his little bill.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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we should drive to his house, face our exhausts towards it, then set it on fire
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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Quite true. A lot of hot rod enthusiasts are getting closer to retirement age. And I'm sure he would not want to upset the large voting population of this group.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Thumbs down Damn, so close!

Wow, I have an 93 FD and I need that 2 years to smog. I'm glad im not effected by it but still thats going to make life harder for the other owners, real harder!
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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good damn hippies!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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How do we vote this guy out? Sombody should post a letter of disaproval so we can get the word out and let them know they are loosing voters by doing this.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Who cares about smog when you have WackyRacer hooking it up. If you are in a position where your car would not pass smog due to modifications or what not, PM WackyRacer and he'll take care of you. He doesn't even need your paperwork.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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but it's just a matter of time b4 they crack down harder on that too. The good things in life only last but so long.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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DJDINO sponsored this bill so he can get people to come by more often to his shop for smog.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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man i hope that **** don't go into effect those damn hippies r really going to mess it up for all hot rodders and old shool car collectors alike.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JP's 93 fd
Wow, I have an 93 FD and I need that 2 years to smog. I'm glad im not effected by it but still thats going to make life harder for the other owners, real harder!
Perhaps you missed the part that it's a rolling standard.....as in next year, you would enter the annual testing window.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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DJDINO sponsored this bill so he can get people to come by more often to his shop for smog.
Ingenius plan.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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**** smog testing...
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Every two years was bad enough already...
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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****, i had to do it every year with my rx7 anyway.
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 03:20 AM
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are those the new orange drifting tires?
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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most other states that have smog testing (like new york or az or even Nevada) have annual testing... so I am not sure what the big deal is.
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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It really shouldn't bother me because:

a) I don't have to smog my FD... ever.
b) I've been living in Texas for years, so I can just switch my California registration to Texas whenever.

But it still pisses me off... Actually, overzealous politicians **** me off...

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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Is this a for sure thing and how soon could this go into effect, if this is the case ima just register my car in florida, and call it day all my cars, this smog **** is getting out of hand, and it's costing me too much money every two years and to much heart ache to find someone to hook my 79 up with smog every two years
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by teddyrx2
Is this a for sure thing and how soon could this go into effect, if this is the case ima just register my car in florida, and call it day all my cars, this smog **** is getting out of hand, and it's costing me too much money every two years and to much heart ache to find someone to hook my 79 up with smog every two years
Please PM DJDino for your smog issues. He is the mang!!
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