GB Interest: FD Specific Fire Extinguisher Bracket (+ halon extinguisher?)

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Jul 19, 2010 | 02:29 PM

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....let's see.... "hot girl," and the words "easy access" "mounting position" and "up position?" I'd say we have a little subliminal salesmanship going on, however I think most of us were already sold BEFORE you posted those pics. However, thanks for the extra effort in grabbing our attention

On a side note, is there any chance we can retain our current "list" position once we move from "interest" to "group buy" or will we need to sign up again? I think I know the answer, but it's your call. Thanks again!

Jul 19, 2010 | 02:49 PM

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David, thanks for the sarcastic tone. Like I repeated two times in the last day (once in a response to you) since we're still working on it and revising that bracket I'm not yet ready to post pictures of it as the design WILL change between now and the CNC shop. I'm trying to make it work with a rear-mount option as well as the spirit r recaro seats so cut me some slack

. Also, I'm not sure what the purpose of posting pictures of the underside bracket are... It's a one piece part that mounts between the seat rails and has a number of bends to make it meet up with the front. Remember that this is an interest thread, and the purpose is to showcase the functionality and overall appearance, and see who would want one.

The main block will be CNC machined from billet, and the bracket will be CNC bent. We still havent settled on material for the bracket yet as we either need to go thicker or move to stainless steel and widen areas of the bracket to increase rigidity. We're getting close but there is still a lot on the table to be sorted out before saying hey everyone throw your money down. You asked will the single pin cause it to wobble. That all depends on the shape of the male tab and female block. We are looking at ways to "key" them to reduce movement, however that's a tough task. There is a fine line between reducing all movement in the assembly, and the tab/block possibly binding when you are going to yank out the extinguisher in an emergency. Obviously we are working for the least movement possible... but only up to the point where the closer tolerances do no impact removing the extinguisher.

Also, yes you can absolutely access the seat slider, and the seat slider has full range of motion. I've tested it with two seat rails so far and the release point is at the same angle on each one (and we have added a few more degrees of rotation on top of that to play safe). In the picture, the seat adjuster is in the "UP" position (between notches in the rail). The normal position is much lower than the extinguisher.

Lighten up dude. Heath, by my mentioning the "bracket" I was joking that you hadn't posted up pics yet (obviously you had) and referring to the "hottie" in the pics as in I didn't even notice anything else in the pics. It was a joke man! I don't need to see any individual part and the name of this thread is "FD Specific Fire Extinguisher BRACKET as in the whole product right?

The two questions I posed dealt with are you comfortable the final design will be "wiggle" proof as in the fire extinguisher won't move once locked in by the pin? By using one pin will this be possible? It was just food for thought and the one pin might be fine. The other question is pretty self explanatory and you've answered yes, the seat lever is still accessible.

Jul 19, 2010 | 03:09 PM

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We'll be keeping the current list and send out PM's once the official sale thread goes live so you can retain your current position. The brackets will most likely be sent out within a few days of each other so your position on the list itself shouldn't really matter too much

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We are going to try and incorporate a notch/pin design (Key) as Heath stated above which would keep the extinguisher from wiggling around. Basically one side of the mount would have a protruding piece while the other has a recess so it keeps the extinguisher in a set position while the quick release pin holds it in place.

Jul 19, 2010 | 05:18 PM

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David... I was being sarcastic/joking w/ you (sorry its not always clear on the net)

. Yeah the wiggle is something we are working to reduce, however to prevent binding there will be a slight amount of wiggle caused by the additional clearance to allow for a smooth disengagement from a non-perpendicular pull angle.

Jul 19, 2010 | 09:01 PM

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David... I was being sarcastic/joking w/ you (sorry its not always clear on the net)

It's all good. Hope the product turns out well.

Jul 22, 2010 | 12:17 AM

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1. Natey - bracket for US passenger's side.
2. RCCAZ 1 - bracket only for US passenger's side.
3. blizzaga - bracket only for US passenger's side.
4. toyzzzz - bracket and extinguisher us passenger side
5. NRattV7 - bracket and extinguisher US passenger side.
6. millertime - bracket only, US passenger side.
7. Et3rNaL - bracket and extinguisher US passenger side
8. mrgne1 - bracket only, US passenger side.
9. onefast3gen - bracket and extinguisher, US passenger side
10. Sgtblue- bracket only. USDM passenger side.
11. Mdessouki
12. taylor7787 - bracket and extinguisher, RHD driver side (USDM passenger side)
13. bwalt - bracket only LHD, pass side.
14. Patrick2Murphy - bracket only
15. ondabirdhouse - Bracket only, USDM passenger side
16. gracer7-rx7 - Bracket only, USDM passenger side
17. Fortune Seven - Bracket only USDM passenger side
18. Helios - Bracket only USDM passenger side
19. Ceylon - RHD - (Bracket + extinguisher)
20. 93SilverBullet - Bracket only, USDM passenger side
21. fdheller - Bracket only, USDM passenger
22. theorie - Bracket + extinguisher, usdm passenger side
23. Kaifd3s - Bracket + extingusher, USDM passenger side
24. BlinD26 - Bracket only, USDM passenger side
25. XLR8 - Bracket + extinguisher, USDM passenger side
26. CarlB - Bracket only, USDM passenger side
27. Robar - Bracket + extinguisher, usdm passenger side
28. Twinsinside - Bracket only, RHD passenger side
29. mrhetrick - Bracket + extinguisher, USDM passenger side
30. 20bseven - Bracket only both sides
31. t_warne - bracket only for US passenger's side.
32. Shmacklepap - Bracket only, USDM Passenger side
33. Simon_sayz - Bracket only, USDM Passenger side
34. Curacaosfinest - Bracket + extinguisher, USDM Passenger Side
35. allenhah - Bracket only, US passenger side
36. riceman1998 - Bracket only, US passenger side
37. Turbodrx7- Bracket+Extinguisher, USDM Passenger Side
38. Turbo8- Bracket only, US Passenger side
39. speedjunkie - Bracket only, US passenger side
40. jmchin- Bracket Only, USDM Passenger Side
41. Zokus- Bracket Only, USDM Passenger Side

Jul 23, 2010 | 09:19 PM

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Jul 26, 2010 | 04:57 AM

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still not seeing a price, not to be a ***** but i kinda want to know how much this nifty thing is gunna cost, i have to know what i'm budgeting for.

Jul 26, 2010 | 11:42 AM

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still not seeing a price, not to be a ***** but i kinda want to know how much this nifty thing is gunna cost, i have to know what i'm budgeting for.

Better start saving....

We are working on the price, but we're shooting for less then $150

Jul 26, 2010 | 01:56 PM

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Better start saving....

We are working on the price, but we're shooting for less then $150

Wow... no wonder Tom needed a new place to live. Looks like the LED tail light conversions are selling well

You could try putting it in a bank though??

Jul 26, 2010 | 03:26 PM

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still not seeing a price, not to be a ***** but i kinda want to know how much this nifty thing is gunna cost, i have to know what i'm budgeting for.

Yeah we're not even there yet... we're still inbetween revisions again. It was going to be overly complicated to make the rear and front mount work, so we are doing two sepearte brackets. Everything is still in the air. Just remember that this particular thread is not the actual GB thread (we will open a new thread once everything is ready to go with the final production version, options, and pricing). But a rough estimate that we are shooting for is under 150 like Dan said.

Jul 31, 2010 | 11:04 PM

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Aug 1, 2010 | 02:08 AM

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Sorry this is taking so long guys... we're still waiting for the recaros to leave from japan so we can make sure the bracket will work with those seats as well. We *were* hoping to have them THIS week but that got pushed back and they won't be leaving till next week.

We'll be ready to go once the seats arrive at the workshop.

Aug 1, 2010 | 08:30 AM

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Well , not willing to wait I made my own, inspired by this design. Turned out great and I'll show it to you guys at Gordon's event in a few weeks.

Now, as a plug for SakeBomb, this is not a casual DIY project so you are MUCH better off going the GB route. H3R makes a very nice brushed or polished clamp and base for fire extinguishers - very sturdy with a pull pin release. This alone though will set you back about $140 and then you need to fab up the seat mounting bracket so you quickly see why you'll spend more in money and time than doing the GB. Fortunately for me Kilo Racing has a metal fabrication shop buddy right next door that designed and bent my mounting bracket for me. The end result looks simple but it took him about 2 hours and probably 20 bends to make the bracket. I painted mine black which doesn't really matter because the only thing you see is the polished H3R clamp and base.

Easy cheesy? Not by a long shot so hopefully the GB will happen.

Aug 1, 2010 | 09:30 AM

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We'll be ready to go once the seats arrive at the workshop.

Here's an idea. Why not have everyone who is on the interest list specify what type of seats they have? I would bet that 80-90 percent of those on the "interest" thread have stock Mazda seats. That way you guys could move ahead with the GB and service those people with "stock" seats instead of waiting another month and a half for seats to arrive from Japan and another month for bracket redesign that "may" only affect a small number in the GB.

Again, just an idea. Either way, I'll wait patiently

Aug 1, 2010 | 11:57 AM

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Aug 1, 2010 | 02:28 PM

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Aug 1, 2010 | 04:30 PM

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because if alterations, extended slots or holes need to be added to make it more universal then cad design has to be changed, so its not something that can happen after a production run. We're not talking months for the seats to get here... they are coming by airmail leaving this week from japan. We're doing our best to make the best, most versatile mount setup. And during the time the seats are on their way we are making a few extra tweaks as well

. A little extra time is a good thing but I do understand that people are excited to get this moving. We're also trying to set up a GB discount to get you guys reduced prices on the extinguishers (halon or halotron). -Heath

Aug 2, 2010 | 01:43 PM

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Understood Heath. Thanks for your efforts! Can't wait (obviously

) to see the final product!

Aug 3, 2010 | 11:18 AM

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Aug 24, 2010 | 07:12 PM

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Bumping this one for the excitement of the final product

Aug 25, 2010 | 04:28 PM

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Bumping this one for the excitement of the final product

We just got the recaros in and will have some updates shortly. we're redesigning the rear mount as a result. There will now be two separate options... front mount for the stock seats, or a universal rear mount for stock/recaro/aftermarket seats.