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BurntOrangeT2 09-02-10 09:19 PM

Hey i don't mind. Plus it gives us FC owners more time to come with the money that yall need anyway.

RotorMotor 09-03-10 01:46 AM

1. BurntOrangeT2 / PAID
2. Fonzi581 / deposit
3. Pele / $388 deposit
4. Hozzmanrx7 / $376.45 deposit
5. MaczPayne / (aftermarket bulbs) $380 deposit
6. OPEN SPACE
7. RX710thAE / $388 deposit
8. therealmogwai / PAID (+ shipping to Canada $25)
9. Yodichkas / PAID
10. 87TIIFC / PAID
11. MadScience_7 / PAID
12. fspos / PAID (+ $24 still owed)
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14. jsnow82 / ???
15. llRyOsUkEll / PAID



Pele 09-07-10 06:05 AM

What is the costliest item in these?

Is it the projector housings?

fonzi581 09-07-10 09:49 AM

I want my headlights!!! Every night I'm driving makes me more and more impatient. lol

RotorMotor 09-07-10 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Pele (Post 10202911)
What is the costliest item in these?

Is it the projector housings?

Projectors, bulbs, ballasts, backing shrouds, and labor to assemble them

Pele 09-08-10 05:44 AM

^

So it's all equally expensive?

I was just wondering if anyone needs these in the future that a group buy could be rolled in with the FD units, seeing as those guys spend a lot more money on this sort of thing.

RotorMotor 09-08-10 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Pele (Post 10204697)
^

So it's all equally expensive?

I was just wondering if anyone needs these in the future that a group buy could be rolled in with the FD units, seeing as those guys spend a lot more money on this sort of thing.

I'm not sure I understand the question? What's the most expensive part? I guess the projectors themselves would be, but all of the components are pricey and none will work without the other parts :scratch: .

As far as doing another run of lights is concerned, yes it's a possibility, but for FC owners I think the cost is really the deterring factor for most people (despite if they are available or not). And it's not the sort of thing that we want to stock as it will cost us a lot of money up front, and they won't be flyin off the shelves. I think unless we find a way to do it way cheaper (using cheaper parts) these headlights won't be attractive enough to FC owners, and with cheaper components the quality wont be nearly as good.

Anyway, for now, the people in the current GB can be happy to know that they are getting the best of the best for their car, for a kit that may never be made again! :nod:
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jsnow82 09-08-10 09:02 PM

I sent a deposit tonight. $400. Thank You. Let me know when you are shipping so I can send the rest. Thank you very much.

Thank You,
Jose Nieves

MaczPayne 09-09-10 08:11 PM

Awesometown.

llRyOsUkEll 09-09-10 08:32 PM

I'm glad that this group buy lagged, because it looks like there might not be any other opportunities to get these Hid's. I can't wait to have these installed

jsnow82 09-13-10 07:42 PM

What's the update on production for the headlights?

Pele 09-13-10 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by RotorMotor (Post 10205422)
I'm not sure I understand the question? What's the most expensive part? I guess the projectors themselves would be, but all of the components are pricey and none will work without the other parts :scratch: .

As far as doing another run of lights is concerned, yes it's a possibility, but for FC owners I think the cost is really the deterring factor for most people (despite if they are available or not). And it's not the sort of thing that we want to stock as it will cost us a lot of money up front, and they won't be flyin off the shelves. I think unless we find a way to do it way cheaper (using cheaper parts) these headlights won't be attractive enough to FC owners, and with cheaper components the quality wont be nearly as good.

Anyway, for now, the people in the current GB can be happy to know that they are getting the best of the best for their car, for a kit that may never be made again! :nod:
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I was just thinking... Molds are produced for the housing and lenses are a common item.

Can a future production of these FC lights be made with a future production of FD units? FD units are probably more likely for future production since they tend to spend more money than FC owners.

Projectors are the same...
But I know the lenses are different.

Is the labor about the same as the FD units?
What about the material necessary to produce the rear of the housing?

I'm just really nervous about that last bit... "They may never be produced again."

It scares me to have a one-off.

RotorMotor 09-13-10 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Pele (Post 10214318)
I was just thinking... Molds are produced for the housing and lenses are a common item.

Can a future production of these FC lights be made with a future production of FD units? FD units are probably more likely for future production since they tend to spend more money than FC owners.

Projectors are the same...
But I know the lenses are different.

Is the labor about the same as the FD units?
What about the material necessary to produce the rear of the housing?

I'm just really nervous about that last bit... "They may never be produced again."

It scares me to have a one-off.

Well molds are just for the rear cap of the housing (dust and moisture). Yes they "can" be produced again. If you have something fail, by all means we can make a replacement so don't worry about that. What I'm not sure is if we will bother running another GB on these lights as the turnout was so low.

BTW the lenses in the projector (the round part) are the same as the FD. The only thing different than the FD is the housing and glass lens from the housing to fit the FC.

RotorMotor 09-14-10 01:18 PM

1. BurntOrangeT2 / PAID
2. Fonzi581 / deposit
3. Pele / $388 deposit
4. Hozzmanrx7 / $376.45 deposit
5. MaczPayne / (aftermarket bulbs) $380 deposit
6. OPEN SPACE
7. RX710thAE / $388 deposit
8. therealmogwai / PAID (+ shipping to Canada $25)
9. Yodichkas / PAID
10. 87TIIFC / PAID
11. MadScience_7 / PAID
12. fspos / PAID (+ $24 still owed)
13. whiteweazel21 / PAID
14. jsnow82 / $388 deposit
15. llRyOsUkEll / PAID

The FD GB is nearing being wrapped up, which means parts will be on the way shortly guys. Thanks for your patience! -Heath
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Pele 09-14-10 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by RotorMotor (Post 10214370)
Well molds are just for the rear cap of the housing (dust and moisture). Yes they "can" be produced again. If you have something fail, by all means we can make a replacement so don't worry about that. What I'm not sure is if we will bother running another GB on these lights as the turnout was so low.

BTW the lenses in the projector (the round part) are the same as the FD. The only thing different than the FD is the housing and glass lens from the housing to fit the FC.

I meant if I wanted another complete set in the future. :suspect:

EDIT: Wait a sec, this IS being run in tandem with an FD group buy...

35 from the FDs, 15 from the FCs... That's 50 projectors, probably the quantity necessary to get a price break from the vendor of the projector housings...

49 and 1... Hmmm. That'd be a weird group buy.

RotorMotor 09-14-10 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Pele (Post 10215615)
I meant if I wanted another complete set in the future. :suspect:

EDIT: Wait a sec, this IS being run in tandem with an FD group buy...

35 from the FDs, 15 from the FCs... That's 50 projectors, probably the quantity necessary to get a price break from the vendor of the projector housings...

49 and 1... Hmmm. That'd be a weird group buy.

Well, see how you like the lights first (though after you have them in the car you probably will want 10 more sets). You really gotta see them in person to understand why they cost what they do. Either FC owners don't get that or they are just too much money for headlights for them. :lol:
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Therealmogwai 09-15-10 10:29 AM

im soo excited..can't wait!

llRyOsUkEll 09-15-10 07:31 PM

I can't wait either to see them on my car. Whats the estimated time of delivery for the lights?

RotorMotor 09-15-10 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by llRyOsUkEll (Post 10218434)
I can't wait either to see them on my car. Whats the estimated time of delivery for the lights?

3-4 week after we receive the parts.

MaczPayne 09-16-10 01:14 AM

Can't wait to have much better night vision!

BurntOrangeT2 09-24-10 03:19 PM

How we lookin Heath?

RotorMotor 09-25-10 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by BurntOrangeT2 (Post 10234431)
How we lookin Heath?

Parts are ordered, and should be arriving w/in the next few weeks. Shouldnt be too long after that to have em all built. We'll be doing these before the FD lights since you guys were waiting longer. :)
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BurntOrangeT2 09-25-10 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by RotorMotor (Post 10235237)
Parts are ordered, and should be arriving w/in the next few weeks. Shouldnt be too long after that to have em all built. We'll be doing these before the FD lights since you guys were waiting longer. :) <input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><!--Session data--><input onclick="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

Kick Ass.

llRyOsUkEll 09-25-10 08:28 PM

Awesome!!!

87TIIFC 10-05-10 02:05 AM

any updates on these? the used headlights i traded my friend for are on their last legs...

RotorMotor 10-05-10 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by 87TIIFC (Post 10251937)
any updates on these? the used headlights i traded my friend for are on their last legs...

We should be getting started shortly... waiting for a few last components to arrive.

llRyOsUkEll 10-14-10 05:37 PM

Whats the update on the production of the headlights?

RotorMotor 10-14-10 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by llRyOsUkEll (Post 10268747)
Whats the update on the production of the headlights?

We have started working on the headlights, should be a few more weeks now. :icon_tup:
I'll post some pics at some point soon

BurntOrangeT2 10-15-10 11:03 AM

Hoping for first week of November. Thanks for all the hard work so far SBG.

EatSomeCake 10-20-10 11:54 PM

Ohh I'm so excited for this. FC owners getting quality lighting! I price quoted for a s2k retro for my integra I had and it was going to be upwards of $1000 so this for $800 is a steal, especially with the level of quality that sakebomb garage does!

By the way, any production pics yet? :)

RotorMotor 10-21-10 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by EatSomeCake (Post 10279197)
Ohh I'm so excited for this. FC owners getting quality lighting! I price quoted for a s2k retro for my integra I had and it was going to be upwards of $1000 so this for $800 is a steal, especially with the level of quality that sakebomb garage does!

By the way, any production pics yet? :)

Not yet, we're just getting into them. We're aiming for 3 weeks to ship. Unfortunately we are running behind schedule. We're working as fast as we can though. -Heath

xaznmackx02 10-21-10 01:38 PM

i see it. i like it.

question though is...
what is the difference between me buying a projector housing off of ebay(http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-87...Q5fAccessories)

and then buying the HID BI-Xenon kit (www.hidextra.com)...

wouldnt this be the same thing? correct me if i'm wrong.

MaczPayne 10-21-10 02:39 PM

The differences are described pretty well in the beginning of this thread...

xaznmackx02 10-21-10 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by MaczPayne (Post 10280061)
The differences are described pretty well in the beginning of this thread...

i've read it.
dont get me wrong, i understand the differences between this kit(projectors) vs. hid kits and (reflectors).

what im referencing is the projector headlights with the hid kits.
isn't this the same thing?

turboIIrotary 10-21-10 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by xaznmackx02 (Post 10280295)
i've read it.
dont get me wrong, i understand the differences between this kit(projectors) vs. hid kits and (reflectors).

what im referencing is the projector headlights with the hid kits.
isn't this the same thing?

that isn't a projector headlight its a piece of curved glass.

xaznmackx02 10-21-10 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by turboIIrotary (Post 10280323)
that isn't a projector headlight its a piece of curved glass.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-87...Q5fAccessories

???

the headlight housing looks similar to me.
are u saying that the headlight housing should be flat and not curved?

link below leads me to here: http://turbometal.com/lighting/proje...-h4-bulbs.html

looks the same to me. i'm not trying to argue. i just want to know if what im proposing will give same or comparable results.
not everyone has 700 to blow on lights.

MaczPayne 10-21-10 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by xaznmackx02 (Post 10279974)
i see it. i like it.

question though is...
what is the difference between me buying a projector housing off of ebay(http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-87...Q5fAccessories)

and then buying the HID BI-Xenon kit (www.hidextra.com)...

wouldnt this be the same thing? correct me if i'm wrong.

You're buying a housing - which isn't a true projector housing, and using it with HID's: neither of which were designed to work with each other. The result? Poor beam distribution, poor lighting, blinding light to oncoming drivers, etc.

turboIIrotary 10-21-10 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by xaznmackx02 (Post 10280354)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-87...Q5fAccessories

???

the headlight housing looks similar to me.
are u saying that the headlight housing should be flat and not curved?

link below leads me to here: http://turbometal.com/lighting/proje...-h4-bulbs.html

looks the same to me. i'm not trying to argue. i just want to know if what im proposing will give same or comparable results.
not everyone has 700 to blow on lights.

What i am saying is there is not a projector in there it's a piece of curved glass.

BurntOrangeT2 10-21-10 08:50 PM

^Right those are offered for our cars because we have stock OEM sealed beam headlights. When the bulb burns out you buy a complete new housing or beam.

With these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-87...Q5fAccessories it makes it possible to use these www.hidextra.com.

The difference between that and SBG is in the housing, which has an Infiniti FX PROJECTOR installed in an up to date designed H4 housing, which is what our FC's accept in the stock headlight location.

and these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-87...Q5fAccessories look like the same quality as fucking Play Doh that has been sitting out for a month, straight garbage.

EatSomeCake 10-22-10 01:26 AM

Basically the difference is that the SBG one's are quality and feature an fx-r projector, which is a projector designed specifically for oem hid headlights. The advantages of an oem setup is it has been designed specifically to focus the hid beam to give you the most useable light with no glare to other drivers. The ebay "projector headlights" are in fact not true hid projectors. They are knock off's that are not engineered for an hid bulb. The "bi xenon plug and play kits" are again knock offs, and not designed to oem standards. The bi xenon function is actually performed by the projector, not the bulb. So in short the difference between the ebay setup and the SBG set up is quality. SBG are engineered to produce a crisp, wide, bright beam, while the ebay version is designed to attract customers to buy a falsely advertised product. I hope that helps, -Alex

xaznmackx02 10-25-10 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by EatSomeCake (Post 10281054)
Basically the difference is that the SBG one's are quality and feature an fx-r projector, which is a projector designed specifically for oem hid headlights. The advantages of an oem setup is it has been designed specifically to focus the hid beam to give you the most useable light with no glare to other drivers. The ebay "projector headlights" are in fact not true hid projectors. They are knock off's that are not engineered for an hid bulb. The "bi xenon plug and play kits" are again knock offs, and not designed to oem standards. The bi xenon function is actually performed by the projector, not the bulb. So in short the difference between the ebay setup and the SBG set up is quality. SBG are engineered to produce a crisp, wide, bright beam, while the ebay version is designed to attract customers to buy a falsely advertised product. I hope that helps, -Alex


thank you sir

EatSomeCake 10-26-10 11:56 AM

you're welcome :)

any updates RotorMotor?

coxxoc 11-04-10 09:44 PM

I'd like to take that last open spot. I sent pm with my info.

Thanks.

HOZZMANRX7 11-05-10 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by RotorMotor (Post 10279355)
Not yet, we're just getting into them. We're aiming for 3 weeks to ship. Unfortunately we are running behind schedule. We're working as fast as we can though. -Heath

So we should have them by Thanksgiving?

RotorMotor 11-07-10 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7 (Post 10306191)
So we should have them by Thanksgiving?

Looks like it's gonna take longer than thanksgiving... I had a family member pass away recently so we've gotten behind. I'll have a better estimate shortly, but rest assured we are working on them. I've got a 4x16 foot table full of projectors at the moment, and another with wiring harnesses being modified. :egrin:

BurntOrangeT2 11-07-10 01:44 PM

Sorry to hear that Heath, your family has my condolences.

llRyOsUkEll 11-08-10 10:27 AM

My condolences, heath. appreciate the effort you are putting in to get these HID kits done.

RotorMotor 11-09-10 10:24 PM

^Thanks guys! We're getting back to them now so I'll have some news soon.

coxxoc 11-10-10 08:02 AM

1. BurntOrangeT2 / PAID
2. Fonzi581 / deposit
3. Pele / $388 deposit
4. Hozzmanrx7 / $376.45 deposit
5. MaczPayne / (aftermarket bulbs) $380 deposit
6. coxxoc / PAID
7. RX710thAE / $388 deposit
8. therealmogwai / PAID (+ shipping to Canada $25)
9. Yodichkas / PAID
10. 87TIIFC / PAID
11. MadScience_7 / PAID
12. fspos / PAID (+ $24 still owed)
13. whiteweazel21 / PAID
14. jsnow82 / $388 deposit
15. llRyOsUkEll / PAID




Paid in full this morning.

RotorMotor 11-10-10 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by coxxoc (Post 10312613)
1. BurntOrangeT2 / PAID
2. Fonzi581 / deposit
3. Pele / $388 deposit
4. Hozzmanrx7 / $376.45 deposit
5. MaczPayne / (aftermarket bulbs) $380 deposit
6. coxxoc / PAID
7. RX710thAE / $388 deposit
8. therealmogwai / PAID (+ shipping to Canada $25)
9. Yodichkas / PAID
10. 87TIIFC / PAID
11. MadScience_7 / PAID
12. fspos / PAID (+ $24 still owed)
13. whiteweazel21 / PAID
14. jsnow82 / $388 deposit
15. llRyOsUkEll / PAID




Paid in full this morning.

Got it, Thanks! BTW nice 10th AE ;)


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