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Old 05-18-10, 06:51 PM
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Alternatives to LT1? Registration?

The LT1 seems to be out dated. Isn't there a more modern solution? An all aluminum crate engine maybe, but then how you register that in the Soviet Republic of California? Jaguar V6, Porsche V6 Turbo, Astin Martin V8 ...ok that would be crazy expensive. There has to be alot of totaled WRX's out there.

I would love to drop in the 16X but first the 3 guys on the rotor team have to figure out how to double fuel milage and make it pass the CA shoves a muffler up your rear end resouce board of monkeys throwing poo.

I know it sounds like i'm joking but i'm serious. We know it has to be small, preferably high reving and light weight. Hmmm, a Hyabusa engine?
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Ok, so a 7.3l Astin Martin V12 won't fit but a Porsche engine is a V6 and what about a 2.2l V4 mitsubishi turbo engine?
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hayabusa engines make less power than the factory 13brew and probably wont last as long either. i always thought a turbo prop engine from a helicopter would be awesome but the egt's would be ridiculous you probably would catch the car on fire.
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That car builder in the 60's that they made a movie after, he used helicopter engines.

I like this engine and it would make sense with a Ford Cobra rear end and Mazda being owned by Ford but I don't know if it will fit. The LT1 is 350CI and this is 347CI. They are both V8 DOHC. The only thing I can see just by looking at the picture is the oil filter (which can re relocated). So other then price, I don't see why this wouldn't be a better choice. Wouldn't there be some smashed up Cobra's to get the trans' and rear ends from?
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...rmer_430.shtml
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how bout a 20b....mazda rotary experience (rx) not a mazda piston experience lol....i just dont believe a piston engine should be placed in a vehicle made for a rotary one. but to each his own...good luck!
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How about an LS1? GM Performance Parts has one that is CARB certified; all aluminum, well documented, high performance.

These other options seem very... complex.
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Originally Posted by GoRacer
The LT1 is 350CI and this is 347CI. They are both V8 DOHC.
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...rmer_430.shtml
Neither of those motors are OHC at all let alone DOHC....
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^ Ok, V-twin short block assuming the cams are not in those black covers.. I don't speak piston very well. The engine might stick through the hood like a blower though.

digitalsolo - Any links to the CARB LS1?
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are you serious dude, come on do some searching here or go on ls1tech.com even norotor,com
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Originally Posted by 10thslydur
are you serious dude, come on do some searching here or go on ls1tech.com even norotor,com
The 1st thread says "yes, i'm serious".
I've had accounts on norotor, the closed rx7v8 or whatver it was, etc, etc. If I found any information other then two threads with some pics I wouldn't have posted.

There is nothing is regards to smog and registration once it's installed.
clearnace issues with fram rail, fire wall, hood, etc
small things like changing spark plugs and oil (is there clearnace for that)
has anyone tried a ford block. seems like everyon just follows the LT and a few tiry the LS series.

So what was the point of your reply, mcfly?
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Yes many people have used 5.0 motors also dude go on the granny site and read all the info the have there, if you were. Member on v8 rx7 there was tons of info on that site with the 5.0 motor it's a little smaller than the lt1 and it has a smaller ci so you get a lot of revs out of it plus the parts are cheap, as far as smog **** go to the carb and bar websites and search for "engine change" but basically whY you have to have is all the smog equipment from the car the motor came out of a evap can ecu cats as. Lose to the location as they were on the donor car and the motor has to be a ca smog motor it, you cannot take a us smog motor and put it into a c smog car
I've done a swap and am doing another right now you have to do some dective work but the info is out there
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Oh that's f'd up, thanks. I swore I would never buy another CA vehicle again. That includes buying a CA engine. The CARB is the worst stupidest moronic retarded idiot ripoff helps no one steal your money and butt rape you waste of tax payer money agency in the universe.

Here is an example of moronic carb stupidity and lack of customer service:
Intake on my truck was produced with an exemption meaning no sticker is required.
Replacement headers have new sticker requirement therefore no carb stamped on pipe.
No smog place will look up intake as they are supposed to according to BAR.
CARB girl plays packman shoving ***** up **** as she talks to you and pretends to listen.
I ask for a sticker even though according to CARB it is not required being exempt.
Girl says if it didn't come with a sticker it's illegal.
It's not illegal it's smog exempt and listed as so on your web site.
if it didn't come with a sticker it's illegal. you have to contact the company.
I told you lady they went out of business.
If they didn't send you a sticker it's illegal.
It's not illegal negative iq retardo lady. It's listed on your website as exempt and legal.
who is your boss
*** wipe laughs uhg the president illegal illegal illegal i'm only 2 yrs old
ok so now the headers. old set were stamped on pipe new set has sticker per new carb requirement. I go to the dealer and tech says you headers are illegal.
not hey are not, the sticker is on the hood
they have to be stamped on the pipe.
no new carb requirement is sticker on hood.
no, has to be stamped on pipe.
dude, call the bar here is the #. yo can also look it up or call the carb.
no it's illegal I will automatically fail you.
file complaint with bar which they said you should have let them fail you. wtf!
they can't do **** unless I was wrongly failed.
call carb if it isnt stamped its illegeal.
wtf? didn't you tel me the new requirement is the sticker?
uh, what? please hold ...click!
call state referee ...i can't test you unless you were failed.
wtf?

ok, that example was with a 100% legal non modified F-150.
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there is nothing really wrong with a LT1. Biggest issue most owners have is the opti spark....I myself had one fail on me. If the water pump leaks. You can plan on buying one. The make decent power, cheap-ish, and...its not an ls1. No need to be a fan boy and get an ls1. Either way you go you need the t56 or dont even bother
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Not saying it's a bad engine, just wouldn't want to drop in a 93 engine in my 94. Well Actually you can't use an older year engine. I'm just saying it's 2010 and there has to be a small lightwieght engine other then the rotary by now. Also a Ford engine makes more sense then a Chevy and why not an exotic engine. A Hemi from a Challenger? No seriously, maybe a Jaguar v6 or Porsche. There has to be plenty of totaled EVo and STi's. An STi has to weight what 1,000lbs more then an FD.

I'm not sure what a t56 is. The only two I like are the GTO and the Corvette transplants. An engine from a Cadillac SLR would be nice but probaly won't fit.
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Well I'm runnin an lt4 with dart heads and it way potent, plus you can't put a 93 motor in a 94 car by law, the motor has to be the same year as the cR your puttin it into or newer but gm made the lt1 until 97, my swap I bought a 97z28 for 1200 with a t56 got everything to make a legal swap from the donor car, that's the easiest way to do it if your trying to make a smog legal cAr saves you time and money trust me, the lt1 is legit but I did it again I would do a newer 4.6 modular dohc for v8 jus as much bang for the buck but it's cheaper to build cause there such a huge mustang following
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http://www.gmperformanceparts.com/erod/

GM E-Rod CARB legal engine.

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i have an lt1 w/ t56 in mine, has done pretty well so far. I would suggest an ls1 though. you can call it fan boyish or whatever you want, but its a light aluminum block that makes good power bone stock.....so why not? I wouldnt bother with any jag or lexus v8, that would cost an arm and a leg...
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d'solo - That's a sweet looking engine but I don't get it cause you can put anything in a 55 Chevy and no converters required because when it was built it did not come with them and since it's pre '71 (or is it 75?) there is no smog requirement.

10 - I don't know what a t56 is. It sounds like a turbo but i'm guessing a transmission? What car is that 4.6 modular block from that you are referring to, a Mustung?

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Dang, this is a sweet engine and it comes with trans and wiring (assuming ECU as well). I'm not sure what else is needed but it sure would be cheaper to find a totaled car. Alot more work and not as nice of an engine but a heck of alot cheaper.
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So I found a combo that would work. Now to go to Vegas ...come on baby, dady needs a new engine!

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It would probably cheaper for you to move out of California...

come here to NY.. For the right price i can put in a jet engine in my rx7 and still pass emissions. I love corrupt NYC...
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Or come to Indiana where we say "What are emissions?"
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