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Talking 413 rwhp BNR Stage 3 Sequential--HP Record In Sight??

It’s been a long journey for this car from where it started to where it is now. I was never planning on making a post about this car but I feel it’s time to show the car the respect it deserves and recognize the people that are responsible for it’s success. Give credit where credit is due.

I just dynoed the car a couple weekends ago at IRP’s open house - the car put down 413 RWHP @ 16psi on a mustang dyno on 93 and water injection

The car was tuned by my good friend, John Renna. His big brain (he’s an engineer) and tuning skills helped make this number possible. He is THE only person I would ever let touch my car. He is the main tuner for IRP as well.

I want to emphasize that I did nothing special to prep the car for this dyno day, drove the car there and stuck it on there as is. I didn’t put fresh plugs in (probably needs some actually – has 9’s in it), put race gas in, or try and up the boost.

This motor has over 15K miles on it and has seen multiple two day track days at NJMP, a lot of times doing double duty (running in two sessions back to back with two drivers, me and my brother driving). Car is setup for street/track and is NOT a garage queen. This is my weekend/fun car so every time this car is driven it is beat on, including many autocross sessions.

The motor was ported and built by my brother, Rich Farrell (GoodfellaFD3s here on the forum). The motor has a large stage 3 street port of the intake and exhaust. Rich meticulously ported (over 14hrs, he spent more time porting my motor than his own hahaha) and race clearanced the motor; Rich checked the specs 2-3 times to make sure everything was perfect. All new seals, springs and bearings were used, and all major components were checked to make sure they were in top-notch shape. Oil passages on the front and rear iron were also ported and cleaned up to aid in flow.

My friend Brian Lee who is the head mechanic over at IRP also helped significantly with building this car and supporting me in prepping for track days.

The car was built at IRP (Rich was a business partner at the time) so big thanks to Ihor Huk at IRP for always accommodating my car and my OCD requests ;-).

Mods:
-Rebuilt 13B-REW motor w/large stage 3 street port (2mm OEM Mazda seals, race clearanced)
-BNR Stage 3 Sequential Turbos (Huge thanks to Bryan Nickle!!)
-Efini Y-pipe
-All emissions removed, double throttle removed
-OEM 550 Primaries, 2000ID Secondaires
-Rotary Performance Competition Fuel Pump
-Power FC stand alone
-Rotary Extreme V Mount
-Straight through 3in exhaust (downpipe/magnaflow resonated midpipe/Apex’i GT Spec catback)
-AEM Water Inj. Kit injecting windshield wiper fluid
-OEM coils with NGK Power Cable plug wires, HKS Twinpower and all 9 OEM spark plugs
-ACT Street/Strip clutch and lightweight flywheel

In the coming future I am planning on shooting for the BNR Stage 3 Sequential RWHP number! (John Renna is tuning and Ihor at IRP is supplying the dyno!!!)

YouTube Dyno Video:
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Where have you placed the water injection nozzle at? I'm planning on doing a very similar build; just waiting on my BNR stage 3 turbos to arrive.
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Congrats on the numbers Ryan. I wish I would have stayed to watch your car run. Looks like Rich built a stout motor that's taken a fair amount of abuse on the street and track. I agree with you with Renna. John would be the only person I would trust to tune my car. Great numbers and I look forward to seeing what you can put down on higher boost. You may need race plugs (10s) for the higher boost levels.

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Where have you placed the water injection nozzle at? I'm planning on doing a very similar build; just waiting on my BNR stage 3 turbos to arrive.
Placed right at the elbow of the 90 degree bend of the Greddy intake manifold. So essentially pointing right at the throttle body if that makes sense.
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Originally Posted by FourtyOunce View Post
Congrats on the numbers Ryan. I wish I would have stayed to watch your car run. Looks like Rich built a stout motor that's taken a fair amount of abuse on the street and track. I agree with you with Renna. John would be the only person I would trust to tune my car. Great numbers and I look forward to seeing what you can put down on higher boost. You may need race plugs (10s) for the higher boost levels.
Thanks bud, much appreciated! Yup Rich broke his *** on my motor...just like every single one he built while at IRP. This is a great example of what a motor can put out when the engine builder actually cares and puts the time into even the little things.

Yes I am actually going to be meeting with John this weekend and we are going to plan to tune with 10s and higher boost ;-).
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Who knew that BNR twins made such massive power? I didn't! I can appreciate a well built car. Luckily I got pics of this car this past summer along with Rich's black 95.
Had a blast hanging out with Rich, Ryan and Jehan for dinner before the Photoshoot with the Manhattan skyline as a backdrop.
https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7496/2...9567b630_b.jpgRX-7 Manhattan skyline by Michael, on Flickr

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Awesome numbers put down on the dyno! I saw a glipse of the first few pulls before we left that day. Makes we wonder if I should have stayed with twins instead of going single turbo?? I love how the brotherly bonds keep strong through these RX7's. I'm also loving my tune by Renna!
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Originally Posted by BridgePorted12A View Post
Placed right at the elbow of the 90 degree bend of the Greddy intake manifold. So essentially pointing right at the throttle body if that makes sense.
Awesome thanks!
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I'm really happy to see Ryan's car make proper power on the IRP dyno..... this car was built on the lifts of IRP primarily by Ryan and myself when I was involved as a business partner over many years and couldn't have been done without the shop resources----shout out to Ihor for his support over the years.

Ryan's SSM '93 FD3s has been running in this trim for about 5 years now, with over 15,000 miles of hard street driving and road-course hot lapping as well as lots of auto-x and highway pulls against various NJ exotic cars. I always knew the car was as fast as a comparable single turbo FD, and these numbers bear it out.

I've had the pleasure of knowing Bryan Nickell of BNR since about 2003 and ran a few sets of his upgraded twins on my old VR R1 'back in the day.' I eventually made 421 rwhp non-sequentially at 17.5 with an engine I street ported and built.

Bryan is the consummate professional businessman and a really humble and honest guy, the kind of dude you'd want your sister to date basically. It's awesome that after all these years his twins are still showing their mettle on the battlefields of the street and dyno.

It's worth noting that Ryan literally did nothing to prep for this dyno run, just strapped the car down as-is to include stock 9 heat range NGK spark plugs that had been installed for over a year. I think any kind of record-breaking performance wasn't really a thought until the car cranked out some serious power for a sequential setup with more room to turn up the boost.

I've had a few people reach out and ask about particulars of my port work and engine specs on this build and I'll be glad to post those up soon.

This car was and is built on the principles of Brotherhood and really shows what can be done when you involve the right folks, including Brian 'Buddy' Lee, our circle of friends (to include 2 Rotor/Cho/Gargamel here on the forum) and of course an elite tuner in Jonny Renna.

Ryan has been committed to this car---choosing the right parts, helping to install them, performing the right maintenance, honing his driving skills to Scrubby proportions, and really has 'represented the rotary' like such a boss that this big Bro is proud of him

I'm told the car was just street-tuned yesterday to 1.36 kg/cm^2 as seen on the PFC commander and Datalogit..... compare this to the ~1.07 seen during the dyno results and I'm gettin' pretty excited

Enjoy your Sunday and stay tuned for more updates everyone
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Who knew that BNR twins made such massive power? I didn't! I can appreciate a well built car. Luckily I got pics of this car this past summer along with Rich's black 95.
Had a blast hanging out with Rich, Ryan and Jehan for dinner before the Photoshoot with the Manhattan skyline as a backdrop.
https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7496/2...9567b630_b.jpgRX-7 Manhattan skyline by Michael, on Flickr
Thanks Mike, I appreciate the kind words. As you know, no corners were cut building this motor and car; if anything OCD/perfection is more of an adjective that describe my goals for the car.

You took some great shots that night! Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by 1cleancym View Post
Awesome numbers put down on the dyno! I saw a glipse of the first few pulls before we left that day. Makes we wonder if I should have stayed with twins instead of going single turbo?? I love how the brotherly bonds keep strong through these RX7's. I'm also loving my tune by Renna!
Thanks man! Haha yes sometimes I want to kill Rich but the brotherly bond is strong ;-).

Yes, John Renna's tune is also an obviously huge contributing factor for the numbers the car put down in the first place!
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This car was and is built on the principles of Brotherhood and really shows what can be done when you involve the right folks, including Brian 'Buddy' Lee, our circle of friends (to include 2 Rotor/Cho/Gargamel here on the forum) and of course an elite tuner in Jonny Renna.

Ryan has been committed to this car---choosing the right parts, helping to install them, performing the right maintenance, honing his driving skills to Scrubby proportions, and really has 'represented the rotary' like such a boss that this big Bro is proud of him
haha thanks there big bro! Yes many late nights helping build the motor, cleaning parts in the parts washer, and plenty of pizza ordered.

I took your advice on parts for the internals of the motor (what to replace/buy new, specs, etc) and I'm glad I did!

The car has come a long way and I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do about the BNR sequential record ;-)
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UPDATE:

I made a trip to John Renna's hood this past weekend and he tuned the car for higher boost. We put 10s in the car and tuned for high boost at 1.36 as seen on PFC commander (About 19.5psi).

John Renna was also able to adjust/tune the secondary transition of the turbos. It's now super smooth and fast! Very impressed by what Mr. Renna can achieve!

I am planning to dyno the car at IRP sometime in the near future to see what she'll do on the good old Mustang Dyno!
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Our specs are almost identical and I'm thinking of going with BNR stage 3's...you might have convinced me to do it!
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Our specs are almost identical and I'm thinking of going with BNR stage 3's...you might have convinced me to do it!
I believe we have the current hp record for these turbos.

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Just went over this whole thread, I am amazed and in love with this car. People involved in this have done an excellent job and serve as inspiration for my future build.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S View Post
I'm really happy to see Ryan's car make proper power on the IRP dyno..... this car was built on the lifts of IRP primarily by Ryan and myself when I was involved as a business partner over many years and couldn't have been done without the shop resources----shout out to Ihor for his support over the years.
Thank you for the acknowledgement and to my team of guys and everyone else that contributed to the build. No one has made a higher hp claim with bnrs so I believe this is the current record. Ill also note that I offered to try out a set of the Australian guy's SP twins but was ignored.

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Hopefully your request to try the Australian twins is accepted and some tests can be done on these because they do seem to have lots of potential.
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Thank you for the acknowledgement and to my team of guys and everyone else that contributed to the build. No one has made a higher hp claim with bnrs so I believe this is the current record. Ill also note that I offered to try out a set of the Australian guy's SP twins but was ignored.
No one has seen your enquires about the Bathurst sp twins .
If your interested in doing testing with the sp twin I'll be happy to assist .

Make your enquiry via
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No one has seen you enquires about the Bathurst sp twins .
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congrats those are some great numbers
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Inquiry sent last week. Have you received it?
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Wow!!! I actually saw your video where you made 456whp on sequential's! This blows the record out of the water for sequential's and I have nothing but congrats to you. To be honest I think your record is even crazier/harder then mine as I went the non-sequential route, what you did is astonishing to say the least! Congrats!!!

Did you change anything after the 413whp run and the 456WHP run? Would love to know and congrats again!
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Wow!!! I actually saw your video where you made 456whp on sequential's! This blows the record out of the water for sequential's and I have nothing but congrats to you. To be honest I think your record is even crazier/harder then mine as I went the non-sequential route, what you did is astonishing to say the least! Congrats!!!

Did you change anything after the 413whp run and the 456WHP run? Would love to know and congrats again!
More boost and retune. Nothing else was changed.
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The numbers seem consistent for a well tuned BNR car. We made 433 rwhp @ 18 psi but were running 1300 cc secondaries and thus running out of fuel. With 5 more lbs of boost the car would have been right around ~490-500 whp. That's with a conservative tune. These turbo's are great for the money and you get to keep the sequential set up which is what makes them so fun to drive.

Good numbers, fun to drive.

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