Marcel Burkett

Anyone try these , http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...210539698&rd=1

GoodfellaFD3S

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I personally wouldnt shop on ebay for knockoff brake products.

dradon03

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Such a copy of the Endless with really shitty caliper torque resistance bridge.

Marcel Burkett

Care to explain ? I have seen good stuff on e bay and I have seen bad , I would like to know which catogory this one falls in ? Personally I dont automatically believe that because something is from e bay its crappy.

burtoncr

Feel free to use replica parts in probably the most critical automotive safety system. Darwin sorts this **** out.

dradon03

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Any caliper flexes, a caliper can be as big as you want but it still flexes. If you look at various brake manufacturers (more reputable) and look at their bridges how much more "built" they are compared to this crap.

GoodfellaFD3S

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Well, the price is so low it falls into the 'too good to be true' category, and IIRC it also comes from china. I personally am very happy with my Racing Brake system, although I've only used it on the street, fitment and quality have been top notch.

gracer7-rx7

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Scary. They look very similar to the RacingBrake caliper.

I'd be worried that they have not done any testing whatsoever on the brake balance with a 6 piston caliper.

thetech

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Yea, no thanks. Braking is about the last thing you want to skimp on. The OEM brakes are probably infinitely superior to this kind of garbage.

Nick_d_TII

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I love this note:

NOTE: At Customers request, we can sell BLANKS (no logo on calipers) and give FREE two new BREMBO Decals. Or else otherwise, XENDO Decal Logos will be on the calipers as default. Thank you.

You could put them on a show car, but someone might notice, I wouldn't trust them...

kwerks

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RB is also manufactured in China ...

kwerks

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This system design looks fine...most companies such as endless have calipers and rotors made in china. Balancing depends on the pistons sizes and etc...
The bridge design is fine and that design has been used in racing forever, the most important part of the caliper is the mid section design..its responsible for most of the caliper flex...

price is almost too good to be true until you realize it only costs them $500 to make it...

dradon03

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If that bridge is fine why is it less than half of any other manufacturers like AP, Endless etc etc (Curiosity not sarcasm)

kwerks

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Brand names need differentiation because ppl keep buying copies ... endless, stop tech, etc...all they do is try and copy brembo... Brembo/ (AP) has the highest torque spec for calipers in the world...do you need the highest? No others work just fine...

A lot of brand names are going out of business because R&D is so high and ppl rather buy copies from no name brands.

Look at ebay parts now...prices have fallen up to 1/2 of what they were 2 years ago because cost of living is so high ppl will have less to spend on parts.

kwerks

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A lot of companies copy the look and style of performance parts but they cannot copy the quality. EX. Rotors! RB rotors are probably the best for the price in terms of durability and effectiveness. They are the best because of 1. design and 2. quality of construction...they bake for hrs in different heat levels to ensure proper durability.

You could copy the design easily but not the quality.

kwerks

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my coworker bough copy brake pads on ebay "sold as brembo style pads"....priced for 10$..from china...just to see what it was like he installed them and the car won't stop if you go above 45mph...just keeps rolling...

dradon03

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I was looking for something a little more concrete than vague statements and speculation.

gracer7-rx7

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Some caliper manufacturers use "bridge" like things to help stiffen up the caliper if it needs it. Need is a relative term (so is stiffness) and depends on the intended use and whether the design and materials of the caliper in question require any additional stiffening at that location. Some calipers for some needs don't need it. Some do.

Race Car Engineering had a wild article on caliper stiffness and the new caliper design by AP that provided some good info on that subject. Google will potentially lead you to some technical articles that can help shed light on your curiosity. None of us are brake engineers so you won't get much factual info from anyone here.

kwerks

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That will require real data to prove what is really working well and for what purpose. As posted above google it for data. You have to understand how calipers flex to understand the bridge requirements.

artowar

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Heh, they're "computerized designed". LOL.

13bmaniac

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hello there, i dont thing that these brakes are good quality i can tell you these causea friend of mine buy one of these xendo brakes for his s13 after a week of installed one of the internals gaskets seals of the caliper give up causing severe braking failure, i dont know ifis a ramdon case but these guys dont want to solved his problem either so its a experience you can hear, if i really track my car the only brakes i will get will be a gran turismo brake sistem that why all the formula 1 teams use brembo, but in you use your car for street use a set of good rotors ss lines and pads will be fine, i recently upgrade to brembo front and rear sport brake sistem slotted and drilled ss lines and ebc green stuff and i rebuilt the front and rear calipers with oem mazda parts and let me tell you that this think brake more than enought for street and even for track use and only 500$ its a fair price i think

Mahjik

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That's basically what people were saying to begin with. Most of the companies who just emulate someone else's design, don't spend the R&D to emulate the performance as well. While the "design" looks good, there is no establishment of performance. Therefore, everyone is recommending NOT to get them based on the fact that there no data to show that they will support the needs it was created, and that brakes are a fairly critical piece of the car.

cabaynes

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this community is going to **** with all these cheap *** owners trying to mod their cars with replica parts just to save a buck... no one really cares about purpose and performance anymore, just want the LOOK sad times

Marcel Burkett

I may be a cheap *** , but I'm sure I've spent a lot more on my FD than you have ! I saw a product and I am just asking about it ! there is no need to be an *** HOLE about it !

Natey

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He's been trying to sell a set of actual Endless brakes for awhile now.

Personally, I'd spend the extra bucks on the ones stokedxiv is letting go, but I'm too broke for either kit..