found this here on ebay. looks like a decent kit. the brakes are not 2 piece but it is priced nicely. just looking to see if anyone has used the kit.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Big-B...item2310a7c089

 

i have the 13" two piece fronts with racingbrake rears (perfect)

 

Been looking at brake threads for atleast a week now. This looks pretty good. I hope there is positive feedback on this product. That is a very reasonable price for a front kit.

 

can you tell us more about the quality, fit, and performance of them?

 

I almost bought them a while back; seller was very responsive to my questions. They are centric rotors, FWIW and they the hats are uncoated. They can sell you blank or slotted rotors as well, and take out the pads from the kit (which I would do). It looks like a great deal, but I never went for it (found a used RB kit instead).

 

sure iwill go into greater detail with pic's soon as i return from Iraq.........but fitment is perfect and i have prefect function lap after lap @ limerock park and when i added the racinbreak up size rear made big diffrence in rear end settle aswell

 

sure iwill go into greater detail with pic's soon as i return from Iraq.........but fitment is perfect and i have smooth function lap after lap @ limerock park. also when i added the racinbreak up size rear kit it made big diffrence in rear end settle aswell.

 

I believe Pettit used wilwood for their BBK, if I remember right.

 

Pettit used the Outlaw 4000 caliper with a two piece rotor. I have that kit for sale here.

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-rx-7-1993-2002-parts-99/big-brake-kit-spares-fits-stock-wheels-961304/

BTW, the Ebay sale the rotors size is listed as:

ROTORS, 324mm diameter, 30mm thick (12.76"

Always read the fine print. If the price is to good to be true it probably is.

 

granted they are not as big/thick as the more expensive BBK's, but its a decent upgrade from the stock size for a very reasonable price, from a respected manufacturer (wilwood).

seems like a good option for the aggressive street guys that dont need the all out track oriented BBK.

i wonder how much they knock off the price if you can order them without the pads or stainless lines. im getting very close to doing brakes soon.

 

^The aggressive street guys are fine with stock brakes and a good set of pads...

 

I'm glad you know what I'm fine with.

I've done 3 diff sets of "good" pads, new rotors, stainless lines, new master cylinder, fresh fluid... and I am not "fine" with the performance of the stock system, I would be happy to see some improvement.

Wouldn't you agree that this wilwood setup could be a nice middle-ground between a maxed out stock setup, and a full on $2k+ high-end setups?


An added benefit is that the stock setup also shows quite a large gap around it when you have 18" front wheels... larger rotors/calipers that take up some of that gap to give a much more appealing look.

 

I agree w/ gracer on that set-up for what he is running as stated in his sig. Guys running over 400 like me need an upgrade. G

 

^^Right now you're running 0 rwhp my friend... might as well remove your brakes entirely

 

ooh burrrrn

 

yea i am looking for that nice firm pedal feel that will stop the car from 160+. i feel the stocks are fine if you are normal hwy driving but i need more. how are the stoptech's? im looking for a high up tight pedal feel that will hold strong on a high speed brake. somewhat like a porsche .

 

For pedal feel, probably any of those kits will provide a better pedal feel. The stock caliper doesn't provide the best feel for whatever reason and gets worse with age. A new or rebuilt caliper can help a little but still won't provide the kind of peal feel that a Stoptech, RacingBrake, Wilwood or Outlaw will provide.

On one FD with fresh calipers, the brake pedal was pretty good. On my current one with lots of track miles on the calipers, the feel was not so good. The performance was still good but the feel was mediocre. That and all the track work my car was doing led me to the RB kit.

For those of you on a budget, get SHIPNOUT's setup quick before somebody snatches it up.

 

That's an interesting find. I think those rotors are probably stock rotors for another car, possibly the 2002 Ford Crown Vic, in which case they are 1.1 inch thick and 12.42 inches in diameter. The rotor area for the pad appears to be much wider than would be required for the Wilwood caliper, and that would be true for a Crown Vic rotor.

Reviewing the Superlight caliper data sheet, they do make a superlight for a 1.1" rotor with two 35mm pistons (see Forged Superlight Internal Calipers). This would work very well (almost exactly matching the stock brake bias front to rear) with the Crown Vic rotor. The internal caliper doesn't appear to be the one shown on the website though (it has an external brake line).

If all this is true, the downside would be the very heavy rotor (25 lbs). On the other hand, replacement rotors are $30, and the kit is very cheap, and it might be possible to get Coleman Racing to make a two piece custom rotor, too. Another downside is that with two equal piston diameters, the pads will not wear evenly, so they will need to be flipped top-to-bottom after they are worn down about halfway. Finally, I've heard it said that the Willwoods are not as stiff a caliper as other more heavily built designs like AP Racing or Stoptech. So they would flex more, reducing pedal feel. I have no personal experience with any of the above though.

 

the description says "12.76" x .1.18" curved vane directional"

 

I know, that's why I said maybe - if it was the Crown Vic, it would mean the guy on ebay posted wrong information (gasp! never!). I once went through a Centric online listing looking for rotors that would fit the FD and didn't see any that were 12.76 x 1.18 that wouldn't move the caliper into the wheel spokes. That doesn't mean one doesn't exist though. Other possible rotors I found are

2005-6 Ford Mustang GT
2005 Chrysler 300

but I thought both these would move the caliper too close (the hat offset for both was about .5" less than the FD stock rotor). But maybe I was wrong about that. The Crown Vic rotor looked like the best fit, and also fit under 16" wheels (so the race tires are a little cheaper).

In any event, I think it very, very unlikely Centric is going to make a custom solid rotor just for some guy selling his brake kit on ebay. It would be nice to know what car they are for. If you track your car, cheap rotors are a help, so I think there is a pretty good solution possible here, although it may not be exactly what is being sold on ebay.