rzograbian

ok, i have been wanting to do this for some time now. i was wondering if i could make brembo calipers and rotors that come stock on lets say like a g35, evo8, porshe, or something of that sort fit in a 3rd gen???? i know that custom brackets have to be made and everything but i was wondering if someone has done it already. i can get those calipers/rotor's very very cheap and it might be something worth trying (for me at least).


any info would help!

Thanks!

fc3s-gxl

porshe cant remeber wat year though

patfat

Porsche 993

maxcooper

You should be able to fit just about any caliper on the car. But making brackets isn't that easy -- they are your brakes after all.

Rotors are harder to fit. If you think of the rotor like a top hat, consider that thy come in many different "heights". But you can get custom rotors and hats (yup, they're really called that) made, or perhaps pick up some hats and rotors that were designed for another RX-7 brake kit.

-Max

rzograbian

Max, if i remember correctly, wasnt it you that did something like this??? is there any way i can see your brakes??? if you did them??

also, its the 933 for sure??? what years are they?? also, what makes them work and others dont?

Thanks!

(if i get my set together, im going to put many sets and sell them on the fourm. the cheapest brake kit [rotora] costs $1550 and they arent the best ones. for any decent set, you will have to spend like $2000-2500.... im talking about $800-1500 depending how long it takes!!)

rzograbian

what year??


also, im 99% sure i read it here on the fourm before but i cant find it! there was someone who did it here!

RETed

Short answer, NO.

Long answer...
At a minimum, you'll need custom brackets and different brake rotors.
New brake lines are almost guaranteed - fitting on brake caliper will almost guarantee be different.
Then, if it all fits, that does not guarantee it will work well.
If you're lucky, it does.
Fact of the matter is, there's a delicate balance between brake master cylinder bore, brake piston bore, and brake pad friction.

You're better off getting any number of pre-made kits easily available for the FD.
Most of them have been R&D'd to get you the best performance taking into account all the factors mentioned above.


-Ted

rzograbian

like which ones??? i like the project Mu ones but they cost like $3000!!!

the rotora ones are just for show. they might increase cooling a bit but not as much performance gain as brembo's or other big name brands!

maxcooper

My rear brakes are a collection of parts that Widefoot Racing, some track junkies, and Essex Parts came up with. The brackets are designed specifically for this setup by Widefoot, the rotors are Mazda RZ (or the Precision Brakes 2-piece custom rotors for the RZ setup), off-the-shelf Wilwood NDL calipers, and custom lines and off-the-shelf (almost -- my street pads were modified a little by Essex to fit the NDL caliper) pads from Essex. Details here:
http://maxcooper.com/rx7/how-to/brakes/rear/index.html

-Max

RETed

Look for M2 (are they in business still yet?) or maybe someone selling a used set.
I think Nick Riefner[sp?] of N-Tech was trying to make some brake kits.
I think Dale (something) up in the northeast was trying to make kits also.
I'm sure the FD guys know more details.


-Ted

rallimike

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"the rotora ones are just for show. they might increase cooling a bit but not as much performance gain as brembo's or other big name brands!"
Not that I'm arguing, but why do you say that? I've done countless web searches looking for comparisons of the different makes, and can't find much of anything. Even the manufacturer's websites tell you very little. If anyone has any objective comparative info, I'd sure like to see it.

saburo

iTrader: (1)

calipers off a new 350Z (brembo) could be kinda cool. but I imagine it is hard to make it work.

DamonB

Just because you stick some caliper that says "Brembo" onto your car does not mean you are improving your braking system unless all you wanted was the word "Brembo" in the first place.

What are your brakes doing now that you don't like? How do you know some other caliper designed for some other car is going to fix that?

rynberg

Listen to DamonB...I think it's a horrible idea.

First of all, unless you are exceeding the brakes' capabilities at the track, you don't need new brakes. Secondly, if you really need brakes on the cheap, become a member of Mazda Motorsports -- you can get the nearly 1" larger rotors and OEM fitting calipers from the 99+ RS/RZ for about $1000. And it will maintain close to stock braking balance and will have OEM fitment.

Cobbling together front brakes from another car is pretty dumb, IMO.

ArcWelder

Right on. The stock calipers are actually very good. Properly ducted and maintained stockers will work fine for everything other than "extreme" track use.

The Brembo's on the 350Z are good brakes but have their limitations also. I hear that the advice for hardcore 350Z track use is to not buy their "Track" version but to buy the base car, save the difference in price, then purchase real track spec aftermarket brakes.

owen is fat

agreed.

when I had a swapped/hybrid Civic, I definitely HAD to upgrade the brakes using any of IntegraTypeR and Legend and NSX components to get the most for cheap and while some machine work was needed it was a pretty simple upgrade.

But the FD and even the FC are very well engineered performers, I dont think you even need to do anything to the brakes except choose the correct compound brake pad for your use and look into cooling duct work for the rotors. I'm working on an (IntegraTypeR) Stoptech kit with 13" rotors and Porsche "BigRed" 6-piston calipers being retro-fitted to an FC and I have to say its almost overkill, but at least that FC will see mostly track use and will have the brake bias adjustment needed... plus new lines, etc. its no simple project at all.

If you could put together a "kit" that added some bling and a huge rotor, for under $1000, I'm sure you'd sell a bunch. Brian over at www.fastbrakes.com has made a living by applying the idea to Hondas and other sport compacts that had a gap in the brake setups on the market... where there were just a few choices... stock for a few hundred and excellent for a few grand. He filled the gap with great stuff, mostly Wilwood calipers, and has been expanding ever since.

mitchiemitch1

porsche big reds are 4 piston.if any one needs let pm me i get a good discount from my work. like 650 a pair shipped.