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Why not 16" rims?

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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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Why not 16" rims?

For the purpose of getting the wheels to spin, wouldn't 16's with a smaller sidewall be better than 17's? I'd go with 15s, but that just seems like it would be really hard to drive, unless you have really tall tires.
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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huh? whatchu talking 'bout?
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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Instead of 205-55-16 on the stoc tire, why not 205-40-16, or something like that, on a lighter rim. Maybe I'm just completely crazy too...
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jerk_Racer
huh? whatchu talking 'bout?


Yea he said it.
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Old Jul 28, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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Ok, this is in reference to drifting. It seems to me that if would be easier to break traction on the back tires if the wheels had a smaller diameter overall.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 01:09 AM
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Yes, certainly. It will make the gear ratio shorter, thus giving more torque at the wheels (just like you have more torque at the wheels in first gear versus fourth gear -- not that your engine is making more torque).

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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 04:30 AM
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Alright, then why do I see so many cars competing with 17s?
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 06:16 AM
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drifting in japan is also judged on how the car looks...thats why they have the graphics, and the mirrored graphics etc...so im guessing the big rims go along with that..just a thought
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 07:50 AM
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because when you go for big brake upgrade/kit you need bigger rims to clear the calipers.

That is the original reason why race cars use huge diameter wheels. When you stick a 15 inch disc and have a caliper (slight exageration) your 16 inch wheel isn't going to fit over the mammoth brakes

hence you see hondas with tiny *** brakes which look stupid after they upgrade their wheels.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by ShadowX
Alright, then why do I see so many cars competing with 17s?
They actually run 18s/19s generally
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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I see, if I had thought about it, I probably would have figured that out all by myself. So aside from looks, and massive brakes, I should be ok with 16s. Or I could just get 17s for the street and use 16s for all the fun stuff...
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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if you don't care about looks, running the smallest diameter (say 15 inch) and then using hte widest rim you can fit will give u the max performance.

That is why u see miatas and autox built purpose cars run like 13 in diamter by 8 inch wheels.

the smaller the wheel the lighter.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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That is why u see miatas and autox built purpose cars run like 13 in diamter by 8 inch wheels.
For autox the smaller tire diameter also increases the gearing along with increased revolution of the tire for a given distance. This warms the tire quicker.

You wouldn't roadrace that way though.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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You'd think most people would be looking for smaller rims to go drifting then, and that doesn't seem to be the trend.
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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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For autox the smaller tire diameter also increases the gearing along with increased revolution of the tire for a given distance. This warms the tire quicker.

You wouldn't roadrace that way though.
i stand corrected
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 02:21 AM
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Stock is fine. It's not the parts that matter as much as the driver.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Jerk_Racer
Stock is fine. It's not the parts that matter as much as the driver.
Also a valid point, but you gotta know that sometimes the car is really holding people back, like a car with an open diff, or with shitty front tires and just understeers all day.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 11:28 AM
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It seems to me that the car really steers itself back straight. At least more than I thought it wouldl. It's probably me, but I thought it might be the rear suspension doing it's thing.
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