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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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volk gt-c (FACE 2)18x9 +17 front 18x10 -1 rear. will fit on my FD?

WELL LIKE THE TITLE SAYS A FRIEND OF MINE JUST ORDERED THIS EXACT WHEELS AND HE IS SELLING THEM TO ME. BUT FOR WHAT I HAVE SEEN THIS WHEELS HAS THE FATTER LIP I EVER SEEN SO I DONT KNOW IF A WHEELS WITH THIS CAREACTERSTICS WILL FIT ON MY FD.
I WAS PLANING ON PURCHASE THIS WHEELS BUT SINCE HE IS SELLING THEM TO ME MORE CHEAP IM THINKING THE POSIBILITY

THIS ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS:

volk gt-c (FACE 2)18x9 +17 front 18x10 -1 rear

HE SEND ME A PIC OF WHAT THE WHEELS SHOULD LOOK LIKE:
SO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK
I THINK THAT WITH THESE WHEELS I WILL HAVE TO TRIM THE FENDERS.
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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i can ill take them if you cant handle it those are awesome
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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yes i will take them just want to hear some imputs of what people think about this wheels on the fd
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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No, not without alot of work/compromises.
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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depends on who you are. the rears will stick out without some camber, almost to the point of too much if you dont add some. front will be fine i have 18x9.5+17 up there. 225/235 is the ticket. but with your stuff i myself would do a 215 and 225/35 but the 225 will work on the front.
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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thanks for the replys. i was thinking on running 235 in the front and maybe 265 or 275 in the rears. im running the tein flex suspension with adjustable camber plates so of course i will have to test the camber until i reach the perfect point. but also the rear fenders will be completely trimmed and pushed a bit to the outside so i assume there will be no problem...
thanks for all the imputs guys you realy are a big help
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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I would love to see these exact wheels on a Black FD since those are the wheels I'm interested in getting. Please keep us updated and a pic or 2 or 3 once they're installed.
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 05:03 PM
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Fronts will fit. Rears, no chance, especially with a 265/275.
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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your high or just a little clueless a 265 on there will not even come close to fitting. thats the compromise if you want a wide tire you need a higher offset. anything under +10 is starting to push it even with smaller tires. below that you need to start increasing camber.

no amount of camber will make a 265 look right
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 06:23 AM
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umm im not that sure like said the fenders will be trimmed and pushed to the outside and in the most demanding wort case escenario if the wheels still dont fit i will have to go with the flares route but i dont think i will have to go that further.
there is a guy right know his forum name is d-cups he is running 19x11 with a i think its is -11 offset ssr proffesors that wheels has almost 20 mm more lip that the wheels i will be running and he has rolled fenders and a nice camber adjusmet you can check it in the interior exterior section right know. i try to attach the pic but its to big.

thanks for the info still i could be wrong but i i will be buying these well very under her value so i think ill have to try
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 13bmaniac
...i could be wrong...
You are.
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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very wrong. seriously might want to do flares if you want a wide tire. no amount of camber will make it look right, and at that point you will just be putting massive camber wear on wider more expensive tires that arent really helping you.

18x10.5+15 only 1 degree of camber with a 245


17x10+12 with 235 same height and settings



just to compare, your wheel alone will be out roughly 10mm more than the 10.5s and 13mm more than the 10s. the real issue will be the tires, they will be taking up a lot of space and sticking out the full width of the wheel.

finally 18x10.5+17 no tires on still maybe this week.


just trying to help
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 13bmaniac
there is a guy right know his forum name is d-cups he is running 19x11 with a i think its is -11 offset ssr proffesors that wheels has almost 20 mm more lip that the wheels i will be running and he has rolled fenders and a nice camber adjusmet ....
It's actually 19x11 +11, and the extra 20mm lip has no bearing on how better it fits, especially 3 piece wheels. You can have the exact same lip size and have different offsets, even more so with the options that SSR provides.

I have to admit that I like the aggressive fitments look (well, not the more extreme, with the wheels cocked on its side), but do you know how the 'nice camber adjustment' is going to influence how your car is going to handle? D-Cups has probably well over 4 degrees of neg camber out back; interesting to look at, but not exactly helpful for handling.
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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The one thing about suspension i never understood was camber. Can someone give me a quick run down on what it is and the differences between running + and - camber. I am going to order 19x10.5 +42 here soon but if camber allows me to squeeze out a smaller offset to get a bigger lip and not have to run a measly 235 tire that would be nice.
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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with that offset you should have plenty of room to run a decently wide tire and not have to mess with any camber. just have rolled fenders to help out. see you could probably get away with a 265 pretty easy were talking about over an inch difference between what this guys trying and what you want
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 7syawedis
with that offset you should have plenty of room to run a decently wide tire and not have to mess with any camber. just have rolled fenders to help out. see you could probably get away with a 265 pretty easy were talking about over an inch difference between what this guys trying and what you want
Right I know, i plan running a 295 on 19x10.5 +42, my c-west rear bumper will make it looks pretty much flesh from the rear. But I wanted to go to a lower offset in either:
19x10.5 +29
19x10 +23

And if i can run these with say a 265 by adding camber that would be nice to know.So does 1* of camber = something like 10mm or do I have the wrong idea of what camber is. I dont mind having to roll the fenders but I dont want to have to pull them.
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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not sure about how much you can gain per degree never thought about it. i just know what i can pull off from trying different wheels and tires.
if your unclear about what negative camber is just think of it as your wheels in an A shape. increasing it will bring the top inward to get it more flush. the way i set my stuff up im not as sure how wide a tire will work since my goal is to get the actual rim of the wheel flush and tuck the tire. so i go for the smallest tire i can fit on not the widest.
either of those wheels will fit about the same the 1/2 inch difference is about 7mm out than a 10"+29 would be so a 10"+22 would actually be the same making a 1mm difference between the 2 choices. so if your not a sretch look fan that 10" might be a good way to go. i would say a 245 would fit for sure 255 probably and a 265 is probably doable with either. might not even have to worry about camber, at least not excessive. 1-1.5 should be fine. best way to know is to just try it
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 7syawedis
not sure about how much you can gain per degree never thought about it. i just know what i can pull off from trying different wheels and tires.
if your unclear about what negative camber is just think of it as your wheels in an A shape. increasing it will bring the top inward to get it more flush. the way i set my stuff up im not as sure how wide a tire will work since my goal is to get the actual rim of the wheel flush and tuck the tire. so i go for the smallest tire i can fit on not the widest.
either of those wheels will fit about the same the 1/2 inch difference is about 7mm out than a 10"+29 would be so a 10"+22 would actually be the same making a 1mm difference between the 2 choices. so if your not a sretch look fan that 10" might be a good way to go. i would say a 245 would fit for sure 255 probably and a 265 is probably doable with either. might not even have to worry about camber, at least not excessive. 1-1.5 should be fine. best way to know is to just try it
Thanks! That really cleared things up. So wouldnt increasing camber result in really uneven tread-wear?
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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it will, but nothing too bad unless you have a lot. you can always flip sides or get the tires switched after awhile. its not like you want to have exactly 0 and if you already have the car lowered there will be more camber than stock.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 01:42 AM
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so well thanks for all the help and support guys, for my good luck the guys at gruppe-s dont order the wheels still so i will gave them a call and see if i can change the wheels offset, i have been checking the volk gtc size charts and i saw loke you metioned before that you can have the same lip diameter with a hiher offset for example the 18x10 -1 has 92mm of lip but can be ordered as well on 18x10 +12 and also has the same lip diameter so correct me if im wrong but according to you will be better if i choose the +12 offsets, will these make any diference?? if you can check the gtc size chart at the gruppes s site will be awesome im looking for a very agrresive lip in the rear i know that the 18x9 +17 or +11 will fit on the fromts, but also want a wide tire in the best case without having to go with flares

thanks

linf for size offset chart:

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Volk/volkgtc.htm
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You can run a wider/crazier wheel then D-Cups is if you are willing to do the work. (yes on stock body.) And just by you knowing his offset will help you order the wheels of your dreams, you know his fits, so if you wanta run chamber and roll your fenders you can run any offset you want as long as it doesn't outside of 19x11 +11. I know you can go crazier though, its just about doing what it takes to make them fit.

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Camber is the angle of the wheel relative to the ground. Zero camber would mean that the tire is exactly 90 degrees (straight up) relative to the ground. Negative camber, which is what is typically used in anything but oval racing cars, means that the top of the wheel is tilted in towards the car a few degrees.

Camber shouldn't "allow" you to fit wheels. That's not what the adjustment is there for. It's a performance setting that affects how the car handles, and how the tires wear.

Street and even street/track camber settings should rarely exceed 2 degrees negative on an FD, so you should plan your wheel fitment to allow for proper adjustment—not the other way around.



Originally Posted by purerx7
The one thing about suspension i never understood was camber. Can someone give me a quick run down on what it is and the differences between running + and - camber. I am going to order 19x10.5 +42 here soon but if camber allows me to squeeze out a smaller offset to get a bigger lip and not have to run a measly 235 tire that would be nice.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
Camber is the angle of the wheel relative to the ground. Zero camber would mean that the tire is exactly 90 degrees (straight up) relative to the ground. Negative camber, which is what is typically used in anything but oval racing cars, means that the top of the wheel is tilted in towards the car a few degrees.

Camber shouldn't "allow" you to fit wheels. That's not what the adjustment is there for. It's a performance setting that affects how the car handles, and how the tires wear.

Street and even street/track camber settings should rarely exceed 2 degrees negative on an FD, so you should plan your wheel fitment to allow for proper adjustment—not the other way around.
Very nice and informative! Thank You
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Are these wheels sold yet ? I just need the 2 fronts
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Originally Posted by TEAM REGIMENT ZERO
Are these wheels sold yet ? I just need the 2 fronts
You realize this thread is three years old?
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