Toyo T1R or Bridgestone RE11 or Yoko ADVAN Neova AD08
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I bought the Yokohamas. I have a few hundred miles on them, and thought I would share a few impressions. They seem to ride smoother than my old Toyo T1R tires. Better straight line stability, and a better sidewall feel. The sidewalls feel stiffer, but not harsher on rough terrain if that makes sense.
Grip is a HUGE difference. The Yoko's seem to claw to hold on long after my old Toyo's would have given up. I have not had them to an autocross yet, but I am looking forward to it. So far, I give the tires a big thumbs up!!
I bought the Yokohamas. I have a few hundred miles on them, and thought I would share a few impressions. They seem to ride smoother than my old Toyo T1R tires. Better straight line stability, and a better sidewall feel. The sidewalls feel stiffer, but not harsher on rough terrain if that makes sense.
Grip is a HUGE difference. The Yoko's seem to claw to hold on long after my old Toyo's would have given up. I have not had them to an autocross yet, but I am looking forward to it. So far, I give the tires a big thumbs up!!
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^^Adam, these are the AD08 correct? I just received a set of 285/30-18s for my track wheels..... I think I'm going to have more grip than I know what to do with
Any more feedback on these tires? I'm seriously considering the AD08s for dual purpose street and autocross/open track day application.
I had the AVS Intermediates (remember the diamond tread?), Parada, Parada Spec IIs, then on the FD: AD07's, which is why I now have the AD08's, 285/30-18 and 255/35-18.
The AD08's provide an impressive amount of grip - even for someone as jaded as myself - and when they do let go, such as when I purposely pitch the car to drift, they slide only gradually, very predictably, but they very quickly regain grip. It's actually hard to drift without really pitching the car into an off-camber corner and really getting into the power, but these tires really don't want to slide. < That's a good thing btw. Hopefully that helps describe their performance.
Incidentally I'm using TEIN Flexes, -0.5 and 0 camber front and rear, and an Optima Yellow Top in the spare wheel well. So in fairness I'm sure my set up has something to do with it as well.
I don't feel tread life is bad, as has been suggested, especially if you run 285's or 295's all the way around on an FD chassis. When these wear out, I'm getting AD09's, no question
The AD08's provide an impressive amount of grip - even for someone as jaded as myself - and when they do let go, such as when I purposely pitch the car to drift, they slide only gradually, very predictably, but they very quickly regain grip. It's actually hard to drift without really pitching the car into an off-camber corner and really getting into the power, but these tires really don't want to slide. < That's a good thing btw. Hopefully that helps describe their performance.
Incidentally I'm using TEIN Flexes, -0.5 and 0 camber front and rear, and an Optima Yellow Top in the spare wheel well. So in fairness I'm sure my set up has something to do with it as well.
I don't feel tread life is bad, as has been suggested, especially if you run 285's or 295's all the way around on an FD chassis. When these wear out, I'm getting AD09's, no question
I had the AVS Intermediates (remember the diamond tread?), Parada, Parada Spec IIs, then on the FD: AD07's, which is why I now have the AD08's, 285/30-18 and 255/35-18.
The AD08's provide an impressive amount of grip - even for someone as jaded as myself - and when they do let go, such as when I purposely pitch the car to drift, they slide only gradually, very predictably, but they very quickly regain grip. It's actually hard to drift without really pitching the car into an off-camber corner and really getting into the power, but these tires really don't want to slide. < That's a good thing btw. Hopefully that helps describe their performance.
Incidentally I'm using TEIN Flexes, -0.5 and 0 camber front and rear, and an Optima Yellow Top in the spare wheel well. So in fairness I'm sure my set up has something to do with it as well.
I don't feel tread life is bad, as has been suggested, especially if you run 285's or 295's all the way around on an FD chassis. When these wear out, I'm getting AD09's, no question
The AD08's provide an impressive amount of grip - even for someone as jaded as myself - and when they do let go, such as when I purposely pitch the car to drift, they slide only gradually, very predictably, but they very quickly regain grip. It's actually hard to drift without really pitching the car into an off-camber corner and really getting into the power, but these tires really don't want to slide. < That's a good thing btw. Hopefully that helps describe their performance.
Incidentally I'm using TEIN Flexes, -0.5 and 0 camber front and rear, and an Optima Yellow Top in the spare wheel well. So in fairness I'm sure my set up has something to do with it as well.
I don't feel tread life is bad, as has been suggested, especially if you run 285's or 295's all the way around on an FD chassis. When these wear out, I'm getting AD09's, no question

^^ Yeah... are they???? What is the scoop?
The Hankook RS-3 is the best all around street-autox-track tire for your money. Long life, reasonable cost, excellent dry grip (need just a little heat to perform their best), acceptable in the wet, but the available sizes are limited
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....el=Ventus+R-S3
if excellent wet grip is more important than extreme dry grip then the Continental ExtremeContact DW is your best choice
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....remeContact+DW
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....el=Ventus+R-S3
if excellent wet grip is more important than extreme dry grip then the Continental ExtremeContact DW is your best choice
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....remeContact+DW
Rich and Mike re: the coveted AD09's .....
I meant that I shall purchase AD09's once Advan makes them x years in the future, assuming they'll be the next evolution in their AD line. I apologize for the false alarm
You wouldn't have a few pics of those tire/rim sizes mounted would you? I'd love to put a 295/30 on my 18x10 rear, but worried it'll look odd.
Thanks!
Thanks!
I'm running 9.5 and 10 front and rear, and I would love to run 285/30 and 295/30, for a number of reasons based on my setup. I wear out my fatter rears only marginally faster than my fronts, so tire rotating hasn't been much of a consideration, but everyone has a different setup. Again I have my Optima Yellow Top in the tire well, and the combination of removing 40 lbs. of lead from in front of the front axles and placing it in a lower position on top of the rear axle = lower center of gravity and a more planted rear end.
Rich and Mike re: the coveted AD09's .....
I meant that I shall purchase AD09's once Advan makes them x years in the future, assuming they'll be the next evolution in their AD line. I apologize for the false alarm
Rich and Mike re: the coveted AD09's .....
I meant that I shall purchase AD09's once Advan makes them x years in the future, assuming they'll be the next evolution in their AD line. I apologize for the false alarm

^
It depends on what you think looks odd. I prefer 90* footprint to sidewall.
I haven't been taking pics of my car lately, but here are a couple from about a year ago, with aforementioned setup. I believe TRISPEEDFD3S is running the exact same rear wheels as me (18x10 ET 38) with 295/30-18's under rolled stock rear fenders. Given that an 18x10 wheel is actually 11.25" wide, a 10mm difference in tire width is minimal and is only barely visually discernible by an obsessive RX-7 owner


This one's mounted on a 10.5" RPF1. This picture illustrates the slightest amount of stretch with this combination.
It depends on what you think looks odd. I prefer 90* footprint to sidewall.
I haven't been taking pics of my car lately, but here are a couple from about a year ago, with aforementioned setup. I believe TRISPEEDFD3S is running the exact same rear wheels as me (18x10 ET 38) with 295/30-18's under rolled stock rear fenders. Given that an 18x10 wheel is actually 11.25" wide, a 10mm difference in tire width is minimal and is only barely visually discernible by an obsessive RX-7 owner


This one's mounted on a 10.5" RPF1. This picture illustrates the slightest amount of stretch with this combination.
The AD08's provide an impressive amount of grip - even for someone as jaded as myself - and when they do let go, such as when I purposely pitch the car to drift, they slide only gradually, very predictably, but they very quickly regain grip. It's actually hard to drift without really pitching the car into an off-camber corner and really getting into the power, but these tires really don't want to slide. < That's a good thing btw. Hopefully that helps describe their performance.
Until I goosed the gas
However, I was at a car event a few weekends ago on cold tires and I could spin them really easy, so I was a little skeptical about how they would do in the skidpad.... get some heat in them and they work great!In the dry I have the same comment as you mentioned, they are predictable and hook pretty quick if you back off a little.
I love these tires, highly recommended!!!! Not sure how long they're going to last though.
More feedback on the AD08's. I had another car clinic last Saturday, this time on Buttonwillow road course. These tires are ridiculous, considering they are street tires. They are very, very grippy, even after 7-8 laps out there. Granted, I'm no pro driver, but I could tell I wasn't even close to their traction limit most of the time. They communicate very well too, I felt like they were talking to me if that makes any sense
I love these tires!!!
I hear Hankook RS3s are similar and I would have got those if they had my size
I love these tires!!!I hear Hankook RS3s are similar and I would have got those if they had my size









