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Old May 7, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Which Suspension????

Ive been looking a while into getting new coilovers as mine as very harsh. I mainly use the car for street and also want to use it for the odd track day. I have used rx7store for buying parts before and here is the suspension kits they sell:

http://www.rx7store.net/category_s/151.htm

Anyone recommend any of the kits on that page or any other kits from anywhere else? Im not looking at spending lots of money but want something that will do the job and improve handling and ride qualtiy, the suspension i currently have on the car came with the car, the shocks are blue with Monza written on them which i have never heard of and its lowered 40mm.

Anyone used the Megan Racing coilovers?? they look like a good price, jsut wondered how good they are?? and how hard??

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Old May 7, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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I just installed a set of Zeal B2s on my FD and so far I'm really impressed. The ride isn't too harsh at all, they felt GREAT up on my local mountain road, and Zeal's got a great rep.

http://www.autornd.com/catalog/index...762360a552036e
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Old May 7, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Tein Flex
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Old May 7, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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They look good but how much better do you think they will be then the megan racing ones?? the Megan racing ones are only $899, has anyone on here used them???

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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetiewells
They look good but how much better do you think they will be then the megan racing ones?? the Megan racing ones are only $899, has anyone on here used them???

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There is a thread on the main page from a few days ago about Megan Racing coilovers. IMO, I would not spend less than $1000 on a set of integrated coilovers. Coilovers that cheap typically mean they skimped on something which is usually the dampers. Before going that cheap, I would recommend Koni Shocks with Ground Control Coilover sleeves. At least that what you'll have a good shock.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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i was thinking they are probably a little too good to be true and the springs on them are 12kg so are probably pretty hard. Im looking for something that is cheap as possible but will do the job, im not sure if those come in the same sentence thou lol i suppose with everything you get what you pay for
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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Me personally i would save my money and actually get some dampers i mean if your gonna spend $900 on some coilovers save like $300-$400 more and have full adjustability for the street and the track. Hopupracing.com has free shipping and they are a decent company to work with.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Those Zeal ones look good but a little out of my price range, what about the Tanabe ones are they good???
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Old May 9, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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I had Zeals on my 240sx those things were insane!!!! I bought the type II SS tanabes but had to sell them to a forum member and never got to ride on them. Still waiting on the sevens... here's my post on them to try to get tanabe to release them here https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/%2Agauging-interest-tanabes-seven-suspension-648925/
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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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Coil overs are a waste of money on a street driven car imo and the overly stiff spring rates combined with metal 'pillowballs' contribute to a lot of harshness.

Get some Konis, Tokicos or stock shocks and run some Eibachs, H&Rs or other spring and you'll be a happy camper.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
Coil overs are a waste of money on a street driven car imo and the overly stiff spring rates combined with metal 'pillowballs' contribute to a lot of harshness.

Get some Konis, Tokicos or stock shocks and run some Eibachs, H&Rs or other spring and you'll be a happy camper.
thats what i decided to do...but now am wishing i saved up more money to have adjustable height coilovers. i have to go REAL slow over bumps or elevated entrances to not scrape the bottom of the car.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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thats what i decided to do...but now am wishing i saved up more money to have adjustable height coilovers. i have to go REAL slow over bumps or elevated entrances to not scrape the bottom of the car.
It's not like you would be able to quickly jump out of the car, raise the height when you come up to one of those locations, and the go back to where you want it with coilovers. You would still most likely have the car low enough that it would be a problem unless you put the car back to stock height. In that case, you may as well just run the stock springs.

There are springs out there which don't slam the car like the RSR Down Springs & Tein H-Tech.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
It's not like you would be able to quickly jump out of the car, raise the height when you come up to one of those locations, and the go back to where you want it with coilovers. You would still most likely have the car low enough that it would be a problem unless you put the car back to stock height. In that case, you may as well just run the stock springs.

There are springs out there which don't slam the car like the RSR Down Springs & Tein H-Tech.
You are right, i wouldnt just jump out and change the settings. But i would definitely leave it at a more appropriate height. the thing is that i went with the tein s-techs and tokiko shocks. that combo made my car a lower than what i wanted, and not being able to adjust that height is now my grudge. having adjustable height coilovers, you could adjust the height to your liking. just a minor benefit.

that doesnt mean that i want to heighten the ride to be able to go fast on those speed bumps, lol. just a little flexibility is all i want.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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No offense, but it doesn't sound like you did a lot of research on the S-Tech springs before you bought them. You could have easily seen how low the Tein S-Tech were going to make your car as pictures of my car with them are plastered all over the forum.

A lot of people think that coilovers will solve all their problems, when they are really attacking the problem from the wrong way. In your situation, doing a little more research on the proper springs for what you were looking for would have taken care of the problem. A lot of people see the price of the S-Tech and just buy them without even knowing what its going to give them. Once they either wear out their stock shocks or find out its lower than what they wanted, they immediately think coilovers are the solutions.

Really, its just better research.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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im not sure what to go with now lol, i am on a budget but i want to get the right set up and i do like the idea of being able to adjust the height and damping. This year i will be looking at doing a few tracks days but will probably start doing more and more each year, i want something that is going to last and give me good results. I think coilovers will be the way to go, the problem i have there is so many different kits available, ive heard from people with other car before that Tanabe are very good, are they good on a rx7 thou?? and which kit is best to go for??

There are three kits on this page, one is a pro kit so i guess im looking at the two SS kits, but what makes one $200 more than the other?

http://www.hopupracing.com/suspension18.html
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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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No offense, but it doesn't sound like you did a lot of research on the S-Tech springs before you bought them. You could have easily seen how low the Tein S-Tech were going to make your car as pictures of my car with them are plastered all over the forum.

A lot of people think that coilovers will solve all their problems, when they are really attacking the problem from the wrong way. In your situation, doing a little more research on the proper springs for what you were looking for would have taken care of the problem. A lot of people see the price of the S-Tech and just buy them without even knowing what its going to give them. Once they either wear out their stock shocks or find out its lower than what they wanted, they immediately think coilovers are the solutions.

Really, its just better research.
i think you hit the nail on the head with that one. youre right...when i bought my suspension combo, i wasnt on the forum yet and didnt really know how much it would be lowered. back then i thought all lowering springs were the same, what a mistake i made. wish i had seen earlier, but we learn from experience too i guess.

do research and dont get something based merely on the fact that its the cheapest!
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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Honestly, if you don't know what features and spring rates to look for on a set of coilovers, you should not be wasting your money on them. Spend some time reading about spring rates and coilover features here and you'll soon have a much better idea of what to look for. And then you make your OWN decision, based on what you need, rather than what some anonymous stranger tells you is best.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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sweetiewells,

Your best bet is to spend the money to get a well known, "serviceable", and streetable coilover. IMO, that is going to be the Tein Flex. I know several people who track their cars as well as drive them on the streets who run them. They are one of the best dual duty coilovers around.

Add in that you can purchase the EDFC and make dampening adjustments from the cockpit make them even more attractive to the others in its price range.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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yeah I have the flexs I'd have to say they are really a good all around suspension
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Old May 13, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Right i have come up with a plan. Im going to save up and buy the Tein Flex suspension kit and also try and get some poly bushes at the same time. Then save up a bit more and get some eibach sway bars. Then hopefully my handling sould be pretty impressive
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Old May 13, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Just randomly bolting on suspension parts is not the way to "improve" handling or make the car faster. You have to understand what each CHANGE (notice I didn't say UPGRADE) is doing and if you really want or need that effect. Also making the car really stiff may make the car feel like it's handling better in slower stuff but can make the car VERY unforgiving once the speed starts coming up.
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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Also making the car really stiff may make the car feel like it's handling better in slower stuff but can make the car VERY unforgiving once the speed starts coming up.
Actually, the OP is trying to soften up the ride.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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Well, when she is talking about going to coilovers and stiffer sway bars, there must be confusion some where.
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Old May 14, 2007 | 05:35 AM
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Well i think for now im just going to save up and get the Tein Flex coilovers, then i can play around with them and set them up how i want them. Then im gona read up and look at upgrading other parts in the future.

I currently have very stiff springs on the car and the ride quality is quite poor you can feel every bump, i have been in a few other rx7's one had Tein super street and that was alot softer then mine and much better ride quality also been in others with standard suspension and very different to mine. It may be that the current bushes are also not in a good state and so will need replacing which will improve things.
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