dhays

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I've spent at least three hours searching and reading. Please correct me if I've got this wrong.

I have a 94' Touring with stock suspension and 18x8.5, 40mm offset wheels with 235/40 tires. It is a weekend, occasional Autocross car. I've never tracked it, but I may some day just in PDX or club trials. I'm getting some Tokico shocks and am considering a stiffer spring. I was looking going with the eibach pro-kit springs but saw some folks mention fender liner rubbing.

I then ran across mention of the RSR Down Springs. It appears that their spring rate is about the same as the Eibach but they don't lower the can quite as much. I don't want the car lowered all that much since it is dang hard to get a floor jack under it as it is. So my questions....

-Is anyone running this combination now, or have they in the past and what were your impression?
-Was the lowering about what RSR claims, .8" font and .6" rear?
-In addition to RX7store.com, any other good sources for those springs?
-I've not found a How-to write up on changing out the shocks and springs is there one out there?
-Should any other parts be replaced/upgraded at the same time with a touring with 60k miles on it?

ARD T2

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Natey has this setup i believe. Search his name.

RSR now only offers the Ti2000 Down Spring. I think they still bring it for the FD but cheapest to buy direct from their website.

Rishie

Mahjik

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Eibach's lower the front a lot more than the rear. Basically, they don't lower the rear much if any. Here are some old pics when I ran them:

http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/FD...2/MVC-006F.JPG
http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/FD...2/MVC-007F.JPG
http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/FD...2/MVC-008F.JPG
http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/FD...2/MVC-009F.JPG

The RSR Down Springs give the car a more even drop with similar spring rates to Eibach. IMO, that's a win/win:

https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-20/pics-fd-rs%2Ar-downsprings-610594/

dhays

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Thanks for the info Rishie. I checked on the RSR website and they still are offering the down springs for the FD at $159. Is it possible they are just depleting their stock? The Ti2000 springs have the same advertised spring rates and drop as the Down Springs but are priced at $239.

Any idea what the extra $80 buys you?

Mahjik: Thanks for the info. I found those same photos in my prior searching and the information that you and others provided helped direct me towards the RSR down springs. FWIW, every time I search for information, your name keeps popping up with great information.

Mahjik

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The titanium springs are suppose to be lighter as well as resist corrosion much better.

C's-7

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I have been looking for a set of RSR down springs as well, but can not find anyone who has them in stock.

I actually just got off the phone with someone at RSR and have come to learn that they do not have the RSR down springs nor the RSR Ti2000 in stock for the FD either.

I was originally looking for the down springs, but would consider the Ti2000's now as well if I could just locate some.

Please let me know if you have any better luck.

dhays

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Did they say whether they were back ordered or not and how long till they had them?

C's-7

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The guy I spoke with didnt believe they would have any in for quite some time. After checking the computers he then went out into the warehouse to double check. He told me to call back tomorrow and ask for Ben to get a better idea when product will be coming in for the FD.

dhays

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I called them today as well. The story I got was that they didn't have any for the FD and they weren't going to have any for the FD, either the Down Springs or the Ti2000s. He said the car is to old to support (at least I think he said that, between his accent and my cell phone connection I wasn't sure).

So, anyone have alternatives to the RSR Down Springs?

Mahjik

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Interesting..

Next would be H&R or Tein S-Tech. H&R is going to be more comfortable on the street.

dhays

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I was thinking Eibach Pro-kit would be the next logical choice since the spring rates are the same. I'm concerned about lowering the car too much as I don't want to create any rubbing issues with my 18x8.5 40mm offset wheels.

I'll see if I can find the spring rates and lowering for the H&R and Tein.

C's-7

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Still in search of the RSR's with no real luck. Some of the dealers I have spoke with have also said that RSR is done making springs for the FD. I have seen this mentioned in other posts as well.

Spring rates for the H&R will be difficult to find. I have seen these and by design they appear to be a progressive spring. (Tapering and uneven pitch) I have yet to find, see, or hear what the H&R spring rates really are.

C's-7

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Well it's always a moment too late. I just received an email from a rep at FRsport.com and they informed me that RSR does have the Ti2000's in stock. I probably would have gone this route, but I just ordered my Tein S-Tech's.

dhays

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Damn. I just ordered Tein H-Techs. I would have gone with the Ti2000's as well. OTOH, when I called RS-R directly and they couldn't tell me what the hell they were doing with their springs, it makes me wonder. I wouldn't count on the Ti2000's until I had them in my hands.

Still, if something goes awry with the Tein's I may see if the Ti2000's are really available.

Wankelab

I received my RSR Ti2000 springs and Tokico D-Spec shocks about a month ago. I think I got the last of both in the world. Here's to hoping there are no warranty issues. By the way, I ordered the RSR Springs directly from RSR with no issues.

Back to the original post questions: I would consider replacing the pillow ball bushings (and any other bushings that look (or feel) worn in addition to the shocks and springs - it's only a matter of time.

Also, if wheel hop has been an issue for you, consider a differential brace and/or new diff bushing.

And, if you want, add an engine brace to firm up the shifts.

Now you have the same scope of garage floor time as I do this Spring. Enjoy!

dhays

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Thanks for the feedback. I found an old invoice from a prior owner that from a shop that noted they replaced 12 suspension bushings that were supplied by the owner. Not sure what the bushings were and I haven't yet tried to count all the bushings, but my guess is that all the rear bushings were replaced.

I have a cheap ebay torque brace and just installed a transmission brace.