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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Rota D2's work meister s1 knock off's

I'm trying to get some opinions on these wheels, I've seen the work's in person but I cant justify paying 3k seriously though thats like hardcore upgrade for a FC. Well drop your thoughts here and also off set size. I'm going to go with the 7.5 up front and8.5 in the back. Thanx and have a great day.

http://www.rotawheels.com/products.php?id=66

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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You might check the WRX forums. Those guys use a lot of the Rota wheels and can give you a good idea in terms of look and strength.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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oh yeah cool I didint know that. what about the offset? whats a real good offset for fc's?
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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It depends on the width of the wheel. For a 17x9, 35mm is about right.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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BLAAAHHHH. Why go with such weak sizes? 7.5/8.5??? I mean i guess i could see not paying the money for Works if you were gonna use those sizes, but ****... the best part about multi-piece wheels (versus monoblock wheels) is that the offset is (almost) invariably changeable. You can get a 17x[any size]... or rather [any size]x[any size] in any offset you want, where a monoblock is limited to the casting/forging mould, and every different offset offered has to be a new mould. The Rotas are a fake multipiece wheel. LAME.

Anyways, beyond THAT advantage of the design of the Works, Work Meisters are also forged. Forging creates a denser material in the mould and therefore the wheel is much stronger, as a porous cast wheel has more stress points prone to failure (not that it would for every day driving... but in an impact). Work does cast some of its wheels (Emotion line) but their design still retains the strength Work is known for. Also, since Forged wheels are stonger, less material can be used, and the wheels can overall be much lighter (often forged wheels have the back of the spokes carved out to reduce the amount of material (weight) without compromising strength. 110% garauntee that Rota's are not like that.


Meaning. Rotas are weaker size and offset, heavier, and not as strong. That's why the price is different, and that's why i hate company's making knock off wheels.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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im getting the d2's iv seen them in a 240 and there bad ***, i want'em in gold or bronze
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorifto_PG
Work Meisters are also forged. Forging creates a denser material in the mould and therefore the wheel is much stronger, as a porous cast wheel has more stress points prone to failure (not that it would for every day driving... but in an impact). Work does cast some of its wheels (Emotion line) but their design still retains the strength Work is known for. Also, since Forged wheels are stonger, less material can be used, and the wheels can overall be much lighter (often forged wheels have the back of the spokes carved out to reduce the amount of material (weight) without compromising strength. 110% garauntee that Rota's are not like that.
The question is, does he need uber strong forged wheels? Probably not.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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The question is whether the Meisters are worth the moeny, or should someone just buy cheap knockoffs? I say that you buy the wheels fitting your purpose. If you just need wheels just because and you don't care about the performance, the look, or the quality, just buy whatevers. But if you compare the Rotas to the Meister S1s in person, you'll start seeing a lot of things that aren't apparent in the photos. Quality being a major issue, and weight being another.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Those "rivets" look pretty tacky. I think it'd look better without em.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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FYI, only certain Meisters have forged centers. hehe. shhhh!!!!!!

18" 2 piece and 19" 3 piece. Just some knowledge to kick down.

All the others are cast disk but have a spun forged barrel.

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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Yeah Meister S1 2 piece is the jam. Much lighter than the 3 piece (with all the rivets and ****).

My Equip 3 piece was forged center and spun forged barrel. The 18x10.5s were lighter than my 18x9.5 Emotion CR Kais. But i look at it in a good way. CR Kais are cast wheel. Work has standards of quality and engineering, so if its cast, they want to make sure its enough material to handle the stress and abuse.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorifto_PG
But if you compare the Rotas to the Meister S1s in person, you'll start seeing a lot of things that aren't apparent in the photos.
I don't think he's looking for "exact" copies. Most people are just looking for a similar style without the similar price tag. As far as the Rota's, I've never owned a set. However, I've seen videos and pictures of the WRX guys (as well as a lot of the SCCA racers) doing rally and road course events with them without issues. While they probably aren't as strong as Work's, I doubt the original thread creator will have a problem with them.

The D2's I've seen around 19lbs for the 17x8.5. Not as light as something like a Volks CE28N's, but not too bad.
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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I personally own a set of the D2 17x7.5 +30 and 17x8.5 +35 and am quite pleased as a wheel for everyday normal driving, even though they arent the lightest wheels out there they are diffinently worth it for there price. As long as you dont have pot holes the size of creators your should be fine like any other wheel.

You can get a good deal for them at Auto Rnd (ARD T2). They also have a special fitment just for the FC which well clear coilovers...

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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Rota wheels are very strong A LOT of scca racers use them, I have only heard of two failures. Both times, rota replaced the sets without any questions.

One was a WRX, the other was a road race Honda that had the rims powdercoated. Rota later told him the powdercoating attributed to the failure, and recommended that no one powdercoat their rims.

Now the only rim I suggest staying away from are the Konig Heliums, way too many failures with those.

Also, it's not to say that Rotas are the only rims that fail, i have seen high end rims develop cracks in spokes, etc.. Rotas definitely do the job and they hold up no problem.

Some people like to spend money on name brands, others have different priorities and would rather spend their money elsewhere.

Just don't try to pass Rotas off as Works, I had rota GT3 on my old civic and never once claimed they were GAB sports.

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