Fatman0203

I plan to do an auto-x and then a track event. Should I put 245s on the stock tires? More rubber on the road is always good. Any more info let me know. Seems though not to many people make the 245x50x16, can it be 245x60x16???? Also what springs do you guys recommend for springs? I plan to go with Springs, and then Koni adjustables

Let me know what you guys suggest for tires.

PVerdieck

No. Its 245/45/16

Fatman0203

Still having no luck finding tires in that size either. =/

DamonB

245/45/16 shouldn't be hard to find unless you're shopping for some esoteric no name tire.

Fatman0203

I went to Tire Rack, and they only have the Michileen Pilot Sports (regular not PS2s) and the Yokohama AVS sports, which I know both are good but I prefer the Kumho Ecsta MX, Perili Neros, or the PS2s. Also th BF G-ford T/A KD seem good too. Any suggestions. Also answers to the suspension set up?

BTW I just want to know best springs for a avid track car , which "maybe" driven on the weekends ocasionally (the streets here are pretty good).

Mahjik

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IMO, if you want something height adjustable, why cheap out? Just go ahead and do a coilover setup. You can do Tokico's and the Ground Control Coilover setup for probably under $1000.

If you want a decent setup for less money, try the Tokico's and the RSR Race Springs.

Fatman0203

Well coil overs are a bit more than 1200$, I was thinking of just putting very high lbs springs with decent shocks. I heard Tokico's are a bit on the cheap side thus why I wanted to go with the Konis. Those RSR Springs worth it?

Mahjik

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Ground Control Coilovers are $600, but don't come with shocks. Teamed with Tokico's (you can get off eBay for around $350 or less) would give you a full coilover setup for under $1000.

If you go with Koni Adjustables for about $600, then some springs for about $200, you are almost at the same price the the above coilover setup without the same amount of adjustability.

I know MANY guys who have used that setup for years (on and off the track). It's the best bang for the buck.

As far as Tokico's being cheap, that's the same forum BS as all Autometer gauges not reading correctly....

Mahjik

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The RSR springs don't lower as much as other springs, but that's not a bad thing. They have a much stiffer spring rate but appear to be linear.

I will probably have my Eibach springs for sale here soon. Love them, but they don't work well with larger wheels up front (because the front drop is lower than advertised).

DamonB

I don't know what you're doing wrong but I go to TireRack.com just now and search by tire size. I enter 245/45/16 and I get 32 choices...

Fatman0203

I think it hates me =P, hmm click Max Summer Performance? Im only going with selected brands? Damon is it worth the extra money for more rubber or should I still to the 225s and learn with those?

Fatman0203

I appreciete this, and will look into it, seems very tempting and interesting. Props the Mahjik

Fatman0203

Where do you find these Ground Control Coilovers? Are they reputable? I know I know you said people have used them, but Id rather spend more now, to know I have a product that lasts.
BTW the Tokikos are 129$ through the rx7 store.

DamonB

No two tires are the same and so you can very easily get into trouble by making a blanket statement but in general more rubber is better. There is not a huge difference between 245 and 225 and different manufacturers vary by width. I've seen 225's as wide as 245's for instance.

Personally I have no need for something like an S03 or KD because I use race tires when I want to drive fast. I have no use for $$$$ tires on the street as I never even begin to drive hard enough to use them, but I do still insist on a tire with above average performance that can daily drive in the rain too. I refuse to spend $200+ per tire for street tires. That said I've been very happy with my Kumho MX tires. The other Kumho street tires are poor but the MX is a good tire IMO.

...I'm out the door right now to go burn more rubber off a set of Victoracers

Mahjik

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Like I said above, I know many people running them. Here's one:

http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/ho...d/MVC-006F.JPG

Once again, that setup is the best bang for the buck. Most people just order straigth from GC: http://www.ground-control.com/

That's PER shock. Look on eBay. There is a guy who sells them for around $350 for the whole set (I got mine for $330 shipped):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...910353260&rd=1

Don't worry if you aren't ready to buy them. He sells a set week (or however long each auction lasts).

Fatman0203

Alright Mahjik I really appreciate all the info. You too Damon.

damian

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couple questions:

- whats ur budget for the suspension

- do you plan on doing just autocross or only open track events or both

- its gonna be a street and track car right?

Fatman0203

I prefer not to go over 1000$ unless its REALLY worth it (excluding tires). I dont mind running stock brakes and rims for now.

I plan to do more track than autocross, but autocross ocasionally if I get hooked, but Im currently hooked on, track, (I go with my friend in his WRX but I know AWD is a whole other animal compard to RWD).

Its going to be a weekend driver mainly, and track. Defintly not a daily though. The road here around Miami are pretty decent, so a rough suspension shouldnt be too bad. The tracks around here if you want to search are Sebring, Moroso, and Homestead Speedway.

Thanks Damian for your input!

damian

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ok, then with that input in mind i dont hink i can improve on the previous suggestions, i would do sway bars right after that though :-)

Fatman0203

I think my sway bars are after market, because is the rear supposed to be adjustable (because it is at the moment) and the front is red.

damian

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hmm, maybe racing beat swaybars, dunno for sure.

DamonB

Sounds like Racing Beat bars.

Fatman0203

Sounds like it, and my mounts broke a few months ago, but I had them replaced with the Mazdatrix huge mounts, they seem to hold the abuse of the street well.