7_rocket

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So its time for new tires since my old ones are shot. I did a search and found a few threads where people seem to like the Kuhmo (mx) I believe. Im looking for good quality tires for street use at a fair price. Any opinions?

Mahjik

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If you are just looking for a street tire, the Kuhmo MX's are nice. If you are looking for something cheaper, the Yokohama ES100's are also good (for the the price).

You might take a look at the Toyo's T1-S, they might be in your price range.

7_rocket

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I heard they dont make T1-s anymore?

adam c

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Not true. Buy them here for a good price:

http://www.ec-securehost.com/OnlineT...Toyo_T1-S.html

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BFG G-force T/A KDW2's Good in Wet nd Dry!!!

ilike2eatricers

Toyo T1S. I hate the yoko es100s after I tried out toyos.

Mahjik

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Absolutely, the T1S's are a better tire than the ES100's. They are also more expensive (which is why I said "good for the price" about the ES100's). You can't expect a $100 tire to perform like a $140 tire.

ilike2eatricers

I know what you meant just wanted to add my personal experience.

POM HB

Get T-1S while you can. If you don't drive 90% of your car capability all the time, why spend more on the top dogs like so3, f1 gs d3, or Pilot sport and PS 2. Especailly, if you are concern about the price..... The T-1R is coming out soon and will be expensive (I read from a canadian link posted here in the forum)

7_rocket

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Whats the stock tire size on the fd again? is it 235/50/16??

Mahjik

iTrader: (1)

225/50/16 is stock.

245/45/16 will work on a stock rim all around.

poss

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Agreed. While they aren't neccessarily cheap, I am very happy with mine.

88fc3sw/HX83

Falken FK451's

2slow4u

nitto 555r

or you can get bfg drags

potatochobit

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T1-S are the best tires i ever purchased. i think they were more like 160 though, but those were staggered. 245/45/16 should be cheaper around 140.

Mazda99Nikon

First ask yourself what you mean by street tire. If you are limiting your spirited driving to near legal limits and maybe a little hanging it out on empty freeway entry ramps, that's one thing. You can save yourself a lot of money by going with Fuzion ZRis. They are good dry and wet - just park your car for the winter. Their ride quality and noise level are on a par with some very expensive Michelins my wife bought for her car at $200 a tire. I paid around $80 a tire locally - you can save yourself a little more by ordering trom Tire Rack. If you are autcrossing on weekends and don't want to change tires, I'd buy S3 Pole Positions. I have seen them at $150 a tire. There is little else that will give you that much lateral grip for the price.

7_rocket

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You got it right on the nail. Its just for street driving and the ever so often spirited driving. I've been hearing alot about the kuhmo mx's so thats why I was wondering what tires would suit my needs.

Mazda99Nikon

I did quite a bit of research before buying the ZRis. The MX's were superior in most performance aspects. In fact, they weren't far behind the SO3s. In the end drivability won out over performance but factoring in price, bang for the buck, and longevity I did come to some conclusions. These were my findings based on anecdotal evidence from this site, Tire Rack reviews, tests and a few other sites. I did look at a couple of all season options

1st. Bridgeston SO3 - Best performance - Most expensive - about 15,000 miles per set.
2nd. Toyo Proxes T1-S - near SO3 performance - less expensive - about 15,000 mi. per set.
3rd. Kumho ECSTA MX - near SO3 performance - less expensive - maybe 10,000 mi per set.
4th. Avon M500 Good overall performance and drivability - maybe 20,000 mi. per set
5 th Fuzion ZRi - Good performance - excellent drivability - maybe 25,000 miles per set
6th Pirelli Pzero Nero M&S - fair performance - excellent winter characteristics 30,000 mi per set.
7 BF GOODRICH TRACTION TA - fair performance - excellent winter characterists - 40,000 mi per set.
8. Fuzion HRi - fair performance - good winter characteristics - least expensive - 50,000 mi.

coolvette

I just put toyo t1s on my car and i like them better than the s03s i had on my c5.

89fc3sNA

I have Falken Ziex ZE512s on my civic. They run about $45/tire for a 15 inch and are great all around performance tires, not to mention a deal. This will be my 3rd summer with them on, and if it weren't for bad alignment, they'd last a couple more.

7_rocket

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I spoke to one of my dad's suppliers and he mentioned that the Kuhmo MX's are for track and that there is no thread depth . It's a slick tire with not alot of thread. Can someone shed some light?

maxcooper

I just went through the process of selecting some street tires for my car to replace the S-03s that I finally wore out over the weekend. I really like the S-03s, but I wanted to try something else to give myself a little "tire variety". I also wanted to keep my expenses down and there are some good tires available at bargain prices these days.

My current tires are 245/40-17 fronts and 265/40-17 rears. My wheels are 8.5" wide front and 9.5" wide rear (both 17" +40 offset), and I wanted to keep the F/R difference in width to a minumum (but still staggered), to avoid excessive understeer.

I was considering these three options, each of which can be had for $650-700 shipped (with another $60 for local installation):
1. Kumho Ecsta MX
2. Toyo Proxes T1-S
3. Falken Azenis RT-615 (with their relatively small 25.0" OD 255/40-17 for fronts)

All the rear tires are about 28 lbs, so there aren't any lightweight 275/40-17s in this bunch. The weight of the front tires varied more, with the T1-S coming in the lightest (no surprise) and the Azenis being the heaviest (no surprise here, either). Here's my quick pros/cons for each (relative to my own personal goals and desires):

Kumho Ecsta MX
PRO
- decent results on Tire Rack testing (quieter than g-Force KD, but still sticks well)
- looks nice
CON
- this isn't about the tires specifically, but I couldn't get as good a price on both the tire and the shipping with these, even though the total was still not the most expensive, not getting as great a "deal" as the others was a negative
- I'm still slightly skeptical about Kumho since the 711s seemed to get good reviews at first and then everyone realized they sucked

Toyo Proxes T1-S
PRO
- probably the best in wet out of this bunch
- probably the best for noise and ride comfort, too
- yet still offers excellent performance based on all reports I have read
- light
- might have more compliant sidewalls, which might be good for straight-line traction
CON
- these tend to run narrow, which might be bad for straight-line traction
- the T1-S has a very round sidewall, which I don't think looks as nice as a tire that is more square (I know, this is silly)

Falken Azenis RT-615
PRO
- probably have better grip than the others
- I haven't heard of any RX-7 owners running these yet, so I get to try something new
- if I don't like them or just want to try something else, these will probably wear out fast
- I'm on my second set of Azenis 215 tires on my daily driver, and I love those tires
CON
- probably noisier and harsher-riding than the others
- heavier than the others
- increased risk of rubbing with the 255 fronts
- extreme appearance probably not good if I get pulled over for something

I love grip so I went with the Azenis.

-Max

Rx7@Rocketship.com

I had the privilege to ride along in a 350Z shod with Kumho MX's at a Solo II this weekend. They were simply FABULOUS. Just get some.

Despite the heft of the car in question, he registered FTD throughout the afternoon, only to be nipped by a slick shod 300+hp Miata trailer queen. Again... just get some.

David

Pressurized

i was very unhappy with the Kuhmo MX, i was hard pressed to get traction thru 4th gear...going sideways at 100mph is not fun

NobleForums

That's not correct.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.j...model=ECSTA+MX

The Ecsta MX is merely a moderate performance summer tire.

These are the Kumho competition tires:

http://www.kumhotires.com/int/Tires/...&product=SUGR1