Zar

Build cheap crap, and people will buy it.
ANYTHING is better than the 20~year old **** suspension that's on your car now.

So commenting on that is useless.

I'd sooner weld my shocks solid than run MeGAYn Racing.

Megan Racing needs to make some condoms.

Census will love the outcome of that.

Pat McGroin

My brother has megan coilovers on his 240sx, and I have to admit they don't feel too bad for what they are. He is no hardcore racer, and he definitely wont be putting the suspension through its paces. Hes had them for about 2 years now without any problems, but he mainly daily drives his car.

I myself run Koni Yellows and Ground Controls and cannot compliment it enough, I ended up spending about 950 for the setup, it's definitely an option. If you speak with Lee Grimes at Koni USA, he will share unbiased shock dynos of Konis against TEINS, JIC, Buddy Club, insert any JDM company, and you'll be surprised.

I test drove my friend's FD with Tein Flex and was not to impressed with it, but it's just my opinion, everyone has different tastes in ride.

But if you guys are serious about shock dynos, Lee Grimes at Koni or anyone at Eibach will perform free shock dynos as long as you provide the shocks, and pay the shipping.

bdubs

I asume you have some hard facts to back your statements up. Please post how the megans felt when you used them and how the other brand coilovers felt back to back on the same car. If you have a link to some megan shock dynos that would be great too.

Zar

I love when people defend Megan Racing.

I've never owned a set of their coilovers, but I have setup other people's cars with the street/track edition. As for other coilovers? I've ridden/setup most every name worthy coilover. KTS/Stance/Tein/Zeal/HKS/Motions...blahblahblah.
I'm not hating on megan racing for nothing. But after spending a great deal of time on an acquaintances car, the results were still the same. They don't feel as if they are valved for the spring rate. If you want to experament, I suggest purchasing the track shocks and placing street springs. That will make them suck less, but it's like polishing a turd...

They can't compare to a quality coilover. I have a shock dyno somewhere. Need to find it.

For most people who are coming from block shocks and crappy strut/spring combos, they are good enough I suppose. But once you feel better you'll wish you never bought MR's in the first place.

In the end, it's your decision. Do you want your car to be made up of low quality, "just good enough" parts?

But then again, most people who buy MR coils buy Rota/Sportmax/ADR's, only hardpark at their local parking lot.

Mahjik

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I would necessarily lump Rota in there. While they are inexpensive wheels, they do a lot of sponsoring in the SCCA and their wheels are widely used in SCCA racing as well as the Subaru and Lotus camps. They may not be Volks, but they are strong wheels (if you aren't a Civic running them into curbs).

Pat McGroin

Thank you, I bit my tongue when I read that comment.

Both parties, budget modifier and ballin cash money JDM ****** both do hardparking. But I'd rather see a rota hardparker than someone who spends 2k on suspension, and another 2k on rims, just to hardpark.

People have different priorities when it comes to spending money on a product for their cars, some people are not concerned about having all name brand products, and because you spend top dollar for a part does not guarantee you a good part.

Black91n/a

I wouldn't dare compare wheels to coilovers. One is a chunk of metal, the other is a complex moving arrangement of precision parts. It's a lot easier to get a wheel good enough, than it is to get a coilover to that same level.

I've got Rotas as track wheels, I bought them for the size, price, weight and fittment. For the size I got, it was the only thing decent for under a few hundred each.

bdubs

I'm not defending MR. I don't own a set. I am in the market for some coilovers, and wanted some reasons why they are "crap".

It sounded like you where puting down MR for their name and not the actual quality of thier coilover.

Not all models of Volk wheels are light weight, but people spend thousands of dollars to put heavy wheels on just because of the name. Thats where the term ricer comes from. Just because you bought a high dollar name doesn't meen you have the best product for your car.

Zar

To sum it up. They aren't valved properly. They don't dampen properly. That's why I say they suck. Not just the name. I'm all for bang for the buck. But I'm not willing to sacrifice a huge amounts of quality for such.

Stance aren't THAT much more. They drive better and are cheaper than the others.

DriftTrix

God damnit, why does it have to be so hard to figure out what parts to buy for an FD!!!! Everything is so grey, one person has one set of coilovers... hes going to probibly like them! Were the hell is the consumer report for aftermarket coilovers for an FD?

If you all give me enough money I'll buy all of them, let you track my car with different sets and then we can decide for what purpose you need them and which you should get!

I'm so frustrated with part selection, it would seam better to me that unless you have experience with multiple coilovers on FD's you should respond to posts like this, if not..... it only makes it harder for the people who have to choose.

ProChemBroTCM

Whoa dude, chill out... This isn't even about the FD chassis anyways. That's life. Of course you are more likely to defend a company that built the parts on your car if you don't know any better, and you certainly don't want to sound like an idiot for buying crap parts.

Mahjik

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Simple way of looking at it:

You'd be kidding yourself if you thought a $800 set of coilovers could perform as well as a $2000 set.

The real question is would you ever notice the difference? I doubt that even 80% of this forum have the skills to push a car enough to its limits to be able to take advantage of the higher end coilovers.

Having said that, if all you are going to do is drive your car on public streets, then it really doesn't matter what you get. Get something that has the features you need and fits your budget. If you are building a competitive car for something like NASA time trials or some other competition, then suspension is one area you need to spend some real money.

ProChemBroTCM

Yep, suspension, tires, and safety equipment, in my opinion.

rynberg

It's not. Once you do research and learn what specs and features would be beneficial to you, it's not that difficult to make a good decision. As far as listening to everybody's opinions...you can pretty much rule out anyone that just says "yeah, I got these coilovers, they're the ****".

From research and talking to REAL track guys, I learned what spring rates would do what and things to look out for in coilover design and damping rates. From there I made a decision.

DriftTrix

lol, I get it, your telling me to get off my ***, go outside, and talk to real people. I like the concept but its so much easer in here cause its air conditioned.

Your right, I need to go now.

rynberg

Nope, lots of real track guys on the forum here. You just have to know who to talk too.

Black91n/a

At the local autocross about as many people have Tein Flex's than all other aftermarket suspensions put together. One guy bought a set and let others take rides, all were impressed with the ride and performance, so many others bought them. My dad's got a set in his Miata, and I've got a set in my FC. I've seen shock dynos of them (pretty good, see the miata.net forum to see them), they'll last quite a while and they're rebuildable (good) and revalveable (very good) in the US. All of those led me to buy them, they're also not too expensive. They're definetely good value for money and I'd buy them again.

rynberg

All of the above is why Tein Flex is my general recommendation to anyone looking for a reasonably affordable coilover setup.....(well, including the fact they come with good spring rates instead of the STUPID spring rates most JDM coilovers come with these days).

ProChemBroTCM

And that is a lot of why I said I will probably end up going with the Tein Flex, or if I'm feeling really cheap, I might go with the Super Streets.

rynberg

The SS has too high spring rates and does not have independent height adjustment like the Flex. If you can't step up to the FLex, I would just stick with a Ground Control setup.

Black91n/a

Yea, that too, the spring rates are much lower (reasonable) than a lot of the competition (too stiff), which makes it better for if it's still your daily driver. I had to get different front springs to get the rates I wanted, but on almost anything else I'd need 4 new springs.

goreify

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ive had the megan coils on my s14, definetly was not disappointed with the purchase. spring rates werent too stiff, quality was good, ride quality was not bad at all, had these for over a year without any issues, they also saw the track with no problems whatsoever. i say if your on a budget, go for them.

ProChemBroTCM

The car is not a daily driver. At most it is a weekend car, at best it is track toy.

Robertio

And yet I had them on my old FD, and would not recommend putting them anywhere near a car that is used on the street. Even on their softest setting I could feel the chassis flexing through potholes (the suspension may as well have been a solid bar), it was only on maximum attack that they smoothed out the surface. I also know of many failed Flex coilovers in the UK. Over here they were regarded as the standard budget upgrade, goodness knows why. Having the rear wheels bouncing off the tarmac on badly surfaced roads when trying to go WOT is not a pleasant experience (for driver, diff or any bolts holding it all together).

Black91n/a

The US market Tein's are different. They do different spring rates, so it's entirely possible that the ones they sell over there are stiffer than the ones available over here. My dad's car has 220hp to the wheels on 205 wide tires, and it's not a problem for him.