Illco-motion

Hey guys
I just started working on my FC I'm starting to do my suspension now ,but i wanted some opinions/feedback
I found a set of tokico blues, the guys also selling some Racingbeat lowering springs.
I was wondering if anyones had this setup and if it works just for the DD, however im thinking about doing some minor AutoX
Also I was thinking about the tokico blues and maybe tein street springs

any opinions/ Feedback

Thanks!

hioctane-dtc

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Based on what I know, because Tokico Blues are non-adjustable, it will behave similar to factory shocks but with better response.

RacingBeat springs are really good to go with, if the guy is selling at a reasonable price depending on the mileage of the springs.

Tein street springs are good as well, the difference between the two would be the spring rate... which you need to find out. The harder the spring rate, the stiffer the ride will be, therefore less comfort but better handling response.

For DD + minor AutoX, a set of adjustable shocks would be better, such as Tokico White or KYB; even the Koni ones are good (strut tower chassis have to be modded to fit).

Reason for adjustable shocks is you can fine tune it for different needs: softer for DD, stiffer for AutoX.

There are tonnes of info on the site, search it up!

sodara

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I've been autocrossing on the tokico blues/HP for a lil' over a year and they're ok, just like above post - oem'ish

I wish I had taken the time into getting bilsteins instead.
body-roll galore, and the blues/hp controlled it well - enough

eage8

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I wouldn't go with anything other than Koni yellows or Bilsteins.

I also wouldn't touch tein lowering springs with a 10 foot pole. I've heard racing beats are decent but I have no experience with them. I'd spend the extra money and get a set of ground control coilover sleeves. You'll be able to tune your spring rates to whatever suits you (they use universal 2.5" race springs) and control your ride height.

Illco-motion

whats up with the teins?

eage8

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Every tein spring I've seen lowers the car too much, but remains relatively soft so the car just bottoms out all the time and drives like crap. Lowering springs that are stiffer will actually ride a lot nicer because they won't bottom out as much.

Here is a picture of tein lowerings springs:


stock is 95/90 lbs/in (according to mazdatrix)
racingbeats are 156/128
Tein S-techs are 120/130

both RB and tein drop an inch.

in comparison I run 600/500 lb springs with shorter stroke struts and bottom out my tires on my fenders/frame still at about the same ride height, maybe a bit higher.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...0/IMAG0357.jpg

I don't think any lower springs are actually stiff enough which is why I suggested a set of ground controls. probably around 400/275 as mazdaspeed recommends, maybe a bit softer if your roads are bad.
Ground Control - Coilover Conversion kit, 86-92 Mazda RX7

another benefit to ground controls is they'll give you more inside tire clearance too if you want to upgrade to larger front tires.

oldsboomer

Ill be doing suspension for my first upgrade as well, so any other suggestions would be great i wont be doing any autox but I live in the country and we have some nice roads I like to get a little fast on.

Illco-motion

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in comparison I run 600/500 lb springs with shorter stroke struts and bottom out my tires on my fenders/frame still at about the same ride height, maybe a bit higher.

where are you driving to do that???????????????/

i see what you mean now about the teins

galaxy convoy

iTrader: (12)

Ive used tein lowering springs with kyb agx, and theyre not that low from the picture above, ride height are higher on the rears

Josh18_2k

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Grip requires suspension travel. My ride height & springs are about the same as Eage8's. I set ride height by tracking the amount of tire-frame rubbing I get. Just a little bit of rubber every race is about perfect. This is on a relatively smooth surface. I avoid locations that are rough.
And yes, its MUCH higher than any of these hellflush kids who claim their cars are "on rails"

j9fd3s

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the RB spring/tokico blue is a fine street setup. for auto-x/real racing, you'll outgrow it quickly, for real racing you need camber adjustability, better shocks, and stiffer springs.