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Falken RT615 vs BFG TA Drag Radials vs Yoko ES100

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Old 07-26-06, 09:38 PM
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Falken RT615 vs BFG TA Drag Radials vs Yoko ES100

I have been reading a lot and need comments on people USING any of these tires.

I have a vert with stock wheels and don't want to replace them. Currently I have Firestone 205/60/15 and I spin them all through 1st gear and part of 2nd gear. I am only looking at replacing the 2 rear tires. The car is mainly used on weekends only and in dry conditions mostly.

I want a tire that will stick. Life of the tire is not a concern as I will only put about 4000 miles a year on this car (last year was 2000). However, I sometimes find myself in the rain so I want it to do half way decent. I cruise around 80 mph so I want them to be stable. Road noise doesn't matter to me.

Again, I want to be able to rev the car to 7000 rpm and drop the clutch and get as much grip as posible.

Sizes I am looking at are:

205/50 Falken , BFG TA Drag radials , Yoko ES100
215/60 Yoko ES100
225/50 Yoko ES100 & BFG TA Drag Radials

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ES100 are crap compared to the other two in terms of dry-only stick.
Add rain to the mix and that basically eliminates the other two.

Ever check out the Yokohama A032R?
Tire Rack has some nice prices on them.


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Originally Posted by RETed

Ever check out the Yokohama A032R?
Tire Rack has some nice prices on them.


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Thanks RETed....I like the A032R & A048...but they are more than I want to spend.
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Go with the RT-615s....they are "drivable" in the rain...with common sense.
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Originally Posted by rynberg
Go with the RT-615s....they are "drivable" in the rain...with common sense.
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Though they don't look like good rain tires, the older Falken ST-215 actually won the wet grip portion of a tire test I once read (and all the rest of the tires were proper street tires). That says nothing about their hydroplane resistance, however. I went through two sets of the 215s on my daily driver and they were fine in the rain, generally, though you definitely have to be careful about hydroplaning (= don't drive like an idiot when it rains).

I have RT-615s on my RX-7 and they have excellent dry grip and are quieter than the 215s were. I haven't run them in the rain, but I wouldn't hesitate to do so. I am very happy with the RT-615s.

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I put money the A032R's would have better wet performance than the RT-615's...


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Originally Posted by RETed
I put money the A032R's would have better wet performance than the RT-615's...


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Well, it doesn't rain all that much in AZ so I think a cautious approach would be a good idea for the rain. The RT-615 will be much better the rest of the time. I really like my 615's and they aren't real bad in the rain. They are new though so it should get worse with wear. My 2cents
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Drag radials are going to be the better bet for just dropping the clutch and going.

Azenis have the stiffest sidewalls of the three, which is not good for launches but good for turning, vice versa for the drag radials.

Yokos have good grip, but not as good as azenis in turning but better rain performance.

Don't spend the money on the a032's if you're not going to use them for they're made for, if it's just clutch drops you want to do, the drag radials will grip better.

Edit- saw your sig, drag radials are the best bet.

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i know that this is not on ur list but Toyo Proxes t1s/t1r do excellent on my fd w/300 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by RETed
I put money the A032R's would have better wet performance than the RT-615's...


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The A032R's are not a good choice for a car that's driven often. They are a bit loud, and many people compare the road noise to mud tires. They're also R-compounds, so they have somewhat stiffer sidewalls than most tires.

If you want a tire that does okay in the rain, doesn't cost much, has good handling abilities but also is good for going in a straight line, most will suggest the Kumho MX. They have fairly cushy sidewalls, which make them good for launching, but they also give you lots of grip in the corners.
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but then again u have power too...
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Very good information from all of you.

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Keep the opinions coming!
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To revive this thread:

Size: 205/50/15

Falken Azenis RT-615 $74
Hankook RS-2 $75

or

Size: 225/50/15

BFG G-Force Sport $77

Anybody knows anything about the BFG? Is it worth getting the BFG over the other 2 because of being almost 1" wider? I am looking for launching grip.

Thanks again




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